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  1. 62 points
  2. 49 points
    Wow this is shocking. He was quite young. He was a very negative writer and I never enjoyed his work, but I would never wish that upon him. Feel for his friends and family.
  3. 39 points
    Makes sense. Kid has good size and is an excellent modern day skater. The NHL game is just to fast for him to process and the hockey sense just isnt there. He has everything to be proud of sticking around the NHL as he has but would be shocked if he ever gets better than he is now. Was a good gamble by JB and there should be no regrets moving forward for the Canucks.
  4. 31 points
    4.7 mil total for Marky and Demko for next year... thats some decent value goaltending.
  5. 30 points
    Dallas beat reporters saying Bo Horvat would be the starting price.... HARD NO
  6. 30 points
    So the Nhl came out and apologized to George McPhee about the call in Game 7. The refs from that game O’Halloran and Ferlatt have been told they won’t ref for the rest of the playoffs. Honestly I wouldn’t have a problem with this if the NHL always did this, but they HAVEN’T! This is the first time ever they’ve done this and not only that they’ve done it to the newest franchise basically saying that this team is the sweetheart of the NHL. This makes me feel absolutely sick being a Canucks fan being screwed time and time again by the refs with no apology. Vegas fans get the golden treatment without any suffering at all and it is sick. Also, why are these refs suspended, but Kelly Sutherland who made an arguably worse call in game 2 allowed to continue reffing? I know all of us can agree that Sutherland has probably made the most bad calls in the NHL yet is given a free pass. Sure a lot of you were Vegas fans last series but I’m sure you can agree with me that the NHL doing this is just stab in the back to us Canucks fans.
  7. 30 points
    What an embarrassment. Why apologize now, when they've been woefully and totally incompetent for decades? Will Gillis get one for the completely lopsided job done in 2011?
  8. 29 points
    Remember when CDC wasin panic that vegas would take him lol
  9. 29 points
    Pass. He had his opportunity and chose elsewhere. Now that he struggles to contribute he thinks we want him?
  10. 29 points
    Wow, really sad to hear. I enjoyed listening to him more than most people here, and always read the Provies/Athleties after games. Say what you will, the dude had the balls to be a dissenting opinion and stuck to his guns. RIP Botch.
  11. 27 points
  12. 26 points
    Huge congratulations to the kid. Hope he shows everyone just how good he is!
  13. 26 points
    Why not give them their own category? It's pretty unfair to women to have them compete against people who are biologically men.
  14. 26 points
    Kadri is a massive douche. I dont want him anywhere near this team.
  15. 26 points
    He constantly gave up picks for bottom six forwards and depth defensemen and handed out NTCs/NMCs like candy. That is the reason why Benning didn’t have much to work with when he started.
  16. 24 points
    happy retirement Honey Badger
  17. 23 points
    https://www.rotowire.com/hockey/player.php?id=2677 ...time sure flies. Heck of a 9th round pick for the Canucks! Was just a great person all around. Great in the locker room, helped out in the community, gave it his all on the ice, one of the fastest players I’ve seen, and played for the logo on the front - not the name on the back. The Great Dane. Our beloved honey badger. Thanks for all the memories during the Canucks golden years. Enjoy life outside of hockey & who knows, maybe we see him back in VanCity Down the road in some sort of hockey ops/coaching capacity!
  18. 23 points
    I don't think Jim Benning is perfect by any means, but how do you enjoy hockey at all when you're just radiating negativity 24/7 lmao It's just sports yo.
  19. 23 points
    He was one of the few writers who told it like it is. I always got a kick out of the clueless fans on this board overreacting to him. I'll miss the Power Hour. Sad news for his family and Canucks fans.
  20. 23 points
    Hey Vegas, sorry for the bad call, this happens all the time. Maybe get your PK in order and not let in 4 goals in 5 minutes. How can the league bend so your PK can improve?
  21. 22 points
    He's a good player but it would probably cost the Canucks Juolevi + Virtanen + 1st Round pick. The Nucks are better off with those 3 younger and cheaper pieces moving forward than with an ageing Jamie Benn. Plus, he $#*% talked the Sedins and has yet to accomplish what they have so he can rot in Dallas for all I care. I would rather throw an extra 0.5-1 million of cap at Panarin who is younger and won't cost assets. I will also add that 9.5M for what was 53 points this past year is too much cap spent for what may be 55-65 points for the next few years. Horvat gets that at a rate that is 4M cheaper.
  22. 21 points
  23. 21 points
    The NHL needs to change this rule, college players should not be treated any differently than junior or European draft picks.
  24. 21 points
    Can someone on HF Boards go on the oilers Forum and Post that the Canucks signed Demko for nothing Ps, plz remind them of their 1st year NHL goalie who they just handed 4.5 for 3 years
  25. 20 points
  26. 20 points
    If you are not a subscribed member of The Athletic, they have permanently unlocked all of Jason Botchford's articles at The Athletic from this past year. You can view it here: https://theathletic.com/author/jason-botchford/
  27. 20 points
  28. 19 points
    https://www.straight.com/news/1238061/did-brian-burke-unintentionally-shed-some-light-way-nhl-screwed-canucks-2011-stanley Did Brian Burke unintentionally shed some light on the way the NHL screwed the Canucks in the 2011 Stanley Cup Final? (this is pretty good) Sometimes it's hard to get over being screwed big time, especially when hockey insiders like Brian Burke are on hand to let you know just how badly. If you blinked (or hit the fridge for a fifth Red Truck Mexican Lager) during Monday's Game 7 between the St. Louis Blues and the Dallas Stars, you missed something revelatory in Hockey Night in Canada's "To the Point" segment. And, no, it wasn't that Brad Marchand remains the NHL's number-one $&!#stain for the game's purists. What was fascinating was Burke's breakdown of a Charlie McAvoy hit on Josh Anderson in Game 6 of the Boston Bruins–Columbus Blue Jackets series. For those who missed it, McAvoy launched himself upward to drive his shoulder into Anderson's head late in the second period, receiving nothing more than a two-minute penalty from famously clueless referee Kelly Sutherland. In the opinion of hockey fans with semifunctioning eyeballs, that call was blown big-time, which explained the NHL stepping in with supplemental discipline. McAvoy was subsequently assessed a one-game suspension, which many felt was just the latest bit of irrefutable evidence that the NHL has its head wedged firmly up its ass when it comes to dealing with headshots. Burke, who in the '90s served as director of hockey operations with the NHL, argued that the league got it right. And, in doing so, he gave Vancouver Canucks fans reason to get outraged all over again about the way their team was rogered by the NHL in the 2011 Stanley Cup Final. In the clip above, Burke explains that there's a system, which he helped draw up, and which is still used today, for suspensions handed out in the playoffs. By the time things have progressed to the third round and the Stanley Cup Final, a one-game suspension is equal to roughly eight or 10 regular-season games. So while many feel that McAvoy got off lightly with one game for the Anderson hit, he was in fact dinged for the regular-season equivalent of eight to 10 games. Burke then showed two completely egregious and indefensible hits by two of the dirtiest players in the history of the NHL playoffs. One of them—Claude Lemieux driving Kris Draper into the boards face-first in a Round 3 game between the Avalanche and the Detroit Red Wings in 1996—was deemed worthy of two games. Which, Burke pointed out, was actually the equivalent of a 16-to-20-game regular-season suspension. At the risk of getting off-topic for a second, the Lemieux hit on Draper was so bad, it eventually led to one of the greatest revenge-games ever played in the NHL. (Depending on who you talk to, said game is referred to today as “Bloody Wednesday,” “The Brawl at Hockeytown” and/or “Fight Night at the Joe.” In his autobiography My Last Fight: The True Story of a Hockey Rock Star, McCarty writes "During my career, there were other times when I wanted to pound the $&!# out of an opponent, but I’d never wanted to hurt anyone as much as I wanted to hurt Lemieux." Here's the footage of the revenge game. Which is all the proof you need that the two playoff games given enough might have been enough for the NHL, but it wasn't for the Wings, who got even big time when the teams met the next season. Yes there was blood spilled, and it was beautiful. Back to Burke's To the Point segment, his other suspension example was Anaheim Mighty Ducks repeat offender Chris Pronger getting one game in the final for flagrantly throwing an elbow at the head of Ottawa Senators forward Dean McAmmond. And what does all of this have to do with Vancouver's Stanley Cup loss in 2011, you might ask? Not to trigger your ongoing PTSD over the event, but recall, if you will, Canucks defenceman Aaron Rome hitting Boston forward Nathan Horton at the blue line in Game 3. Rome—in a game refereed by the immortal Kelly Sutherland—was given a five-minute major and a game misconduct. Horton was concussed and did not play the rest of the series. It's generally accepted that Boston, which was down 2-0 in the series at that point, used the hit as a rallying point, eventually taking the Cup Final four games to three. As hits go, no one's arguing that it wasn't late. And only the most homer-ish of Canucks fans would argue that Rome didn't deserve a suspension, precedent suggesting maybe something along the lines of what Pronger got. Instead, the NHL threw the book and the bookcase at Rome, despite his having no history of suspensions. He was given a four-game suspension for a second-late hit that was nowhere near as nasty as Pronger's or Lemieux's. Or as optically bad as McAvoy's targeting the head of Anderson, who was at the time considered in a vulnerable position. Or as bad as this from Pronger's long rap sheet, which led to, again, a one-game suspension (or eight games) in Game 3 of the Western Conference Final in 2007. That's right, one for a deliberate and unrepentently brutal attempt to injure Detroit Red Wing Tomas Holmstrom. In making its ruling on Rome vs. Horton, the NHL's Mike Murphy noted that while there was some head contact, the main problem with the Rome hit was that it was "close to a second late". And that Horton was injured. "We have our own formula at NHL Hockey Operations for determining late hits, and it was late," Murphy said at the time. "We saw the seriousness of the injury with Nathan on the ice last night. That's basically what we deliberated on. We tried to compare it with some of the other ones in the past. But it stands alone. It's why we made the ruling." A ruling, he told sbnation.com, that wasn't because Rome targeted Horton's head. It was the "lateness combined with the injury," he said. This was the first multigame suspension in the history of the Stanley Cup Final. It remains the longest suspension ever handed out in a Stanley Cup Final. And using the formula that Burke outlined on Monday, it means that the NHL chose to suspend Rome for the equivalent of 40 regular-season games. (We're rounding up, as we're talking the final round rather than Round 3.) No other player in NHL history has ever received more than a one-game suspension in the final, pre- or post-Rome. Rome got a mind-boggling half a season even though he had no history of crossing the line. And, lest one forget, the decision came from an NHL headquarters where the head of discipline, right up up until the final got under way, was Colin Campbell, who decided to step down from the position only at the 11th hour because his son Gregory Campbell played for the Boston Bruins. The Canucks ended up so depleted on defence that a 21-year-old rookie named Chris Tanev was eventually forced into service. In case you are curious, the length of the Rome suspension remains second only to one served to San Jose Shark Raffi Torres for a 2015 regular-season hit on Jakob Silfverberg. Torres had previously been suspended four times, and the general consensus was that something drastic had to be done before he killed someone. A repeat and dangerous offender, Torres was given 41 games for the above hit. One more than Rome's equivalent, using Burke's formula. A formula the NHL has kept secret for years. Even Murphy refused to divulge the formula he was using in the sbnation.com interview. "My number is four," he argued. "It is what it is. It stands alone." Based on information provided by Burke Monday, Murphy wasn't totally telling the truth in the exchange: After Torres, the next-longest suspension in NHL history is to repeat offender Chris Simon of the New York Islanders, who got 30 games for intentionally stomping on the leg of Pittsburgh Penguins forward Jarkko Ruutu with his skate. Eight years after Rome's suspension, the NHL talks endlessly about stopping hits to the head. Which explains why, having set a precedent with Rome's hit and his 40-game-equivalent suspension, Charlie McAvoy just got 10 games for a far worse hit. If recent history has taught as anything, it's that it's good to be wearing a Boston Bruins jersey in the playoffs. (Ask then Bruins defender Johnny Boychuck, who got no games for driving Canuck Mason Raymond into the boards and breaking his back in the 2011 final.) Vancouver, on the other hand, is a franchise that exists to get screwed by the NHL, never more heinously so than in 2011. Don't even get us started on all the $&!# that was missed and not called in the games after the Rome hit, when it became open season on anyone wearing a pair of ice skates, especially if the name on the back of the jersey was Sedin. For a Coles Notes version, go here. Or here. At this point, you're probably sitting there thinking that Vancouver Canucks fans have made a cottage industry out of arguing that the team is regularly screwed by the NHL. West Coasters have been doing it for decades, from Roger Neilson waving the white towel in the '80s to Todd Bertuzzi's suspension derailing the West Coast Express once and for all in the '00s. This time, however, we've got proof the NHL gave the Canucks a Grade-A, lube-free rogering in 2011. Brian Burke confirmed that Monday, even if he didn't mean to.
  29. 19 points
    Passion, humour, and unrelenting commitment to helping the Canucks to win a Cup. He was, as I heard Paterson say, not a Canucks (management) fan, but more of a Canucks fan fan. Which is why it has always been bizarre to me to read so many here, supposedly made up of fans, that didn’t get him. He constantly was watching and thinking and coming up with ideas, and critiques about what he thought they were not doing they could be. And he traveled with the team, he wasn’t just speaking out of his a**, no matter how much of a smart a** he seemed. And he laid it out tempered with wit and humour. He didn’t care about the niceties or being polite, maybe that was the problem for some. I don’t know. I loved that he didn’t lay off on standing up for his opinions in an argument even against long time broadcasters like Pratt, whom he put in his place better than any other guest host on that show. Of all the sports personalities in this town he was the one that will be missed the most by myself. As someone said, I also think he was misinterpreted as being “negative”. That was the last word I thought of with him. Critical, cynical, honest to a fault is what I think of. Finding a new angle to a story that no one had thought of. And willing to argue his point and not back down. His passion to one day watch the Canucks win a Cup was his driving force. That, as a fan, coincided with my wishes better than with any other reporter. I loved his sticking up for Alex Burrows before anyone else did during the Auger incident. He had the balls to do things like that. And to also hear this morning how he went out of his way to help so many young sports journalists, including Halford and Brough was great to hear, and revealed the kind of character he had behind the voice. He was the fans voice. He spoke (or yelled) what I wanted to yell about the team. RIP Botch . .
  30. 19 points
    https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/vancouver-canucks-thatcher-demko/c-306997264
  31. 19 points
    After following this team for 49 years, I just hope it’s in my lifetime
  32. 18 points
    Gary Bettman walks up to the stage... (BOOOOOOO) We have a trade to announce... (BOOOOOO) I think you're gonna wanna hear this...(HUH?) (BOO) Vancouver trades the 10th selection in the 2019 NHL Draft plus their 1st round pick in 2020 in exchange for New Jersey's 1st round pick in 2019. (WHHHAATT??) Jim Benning, Quinn, and crew walk up to the stage... (WOOOOOOO!) Vancouver is proud to select from the US National Development Program... Jack Hughes (THE CROWD GOES WILD!!!) Go Canucks Go! Go Canucks Go! (The crowd is chanting as JB is crowd surfed by the fans)
  33. 18 points
    ??? Baertschi and Granlund have earned their time. Both are all-situations guys who grinded it out here. Weisbrod as AGM has nothing to do with playing time...
  34. 18 points
    Put Hitmen in the goddamn thread title.
  35. 18 points
    https://www.sportsnet.ca/650/the-program/elliotte-friedman-crazy-night-san-jose/ link to podcast ^^ fast forward to 13:00 on the podcast Context was Scott Rintoul asking Elliotte if he heard the Canucks were searching for a President of Hockey Ops. Survey says?
  36. 17 points
    As a general rule, never trade a known commodity for an unknown commodity.
  37. 17 points
    Honestly Eriksson is a more useful player at this point; Lucic is a liability, Eriksson isn't. I could see the value of having 2012 Lucic with Petey but the current Lucic doesn't have the speed to keep up with the game anymore, nor does he seem willing to drop the gloves or mix it up as much as he used to. Plus the extra year on the contract comes at a time where Canucks will be needing the 6M to put towards a contract for Q Hughes. What it boils down to for me is that I would rather have Eriksson on my team.
  38. 17 points
    Very sad news. The pictures of him in the Athletic really hammered home how sad it is when children lose their father. His peers certainly have a lot of positive things to say about him. Certainly a good indication of his overall character.
  39. 17 points
  40. 17 points
    Totally agree. I’m just reading, and hearing this on 650, right now. I’m kind of a bit shaky actually. I never knew the person, but (because of sports) feel as if I do. He was only 48, and leaves his wife and children without a husband and father. This is incredibly sad.
  41. 16 points
    Canuck fans had been spoiled to have a guy like Botchford covering the team for all these years. His passion for the team/city will be missed he was the voice of the fans in the media. if you listen to other radio stations in Calgary and Edmonton for example, they dont have a guy like him. He was unique, funny, and in touch with the fans. His Provies/Athletties was must read every Canuck post game, i know he was very excited about the future of the Canucks and it sucks that he wont get a chance to see the team be great again. We're going to feel his loss in this offseason and long summer days
  42. 16 points
    Like Gallagher there were times when I would agree and times when I would disagree but at the end of the day he made me think and, to me, that is what makes a successful writer. With a young family of my own, I can only imagine the pain the family is going through. I truly wish them the best through this toughest of times.
  43. 16 points
    niether build through the draft. Get rid of the vets especially the non productive over priced ones .. eriksdone sutter ect. This Teams is still to far away from being a Cup contender, just being a playoff contender is settling for medoritcy.
  44. 16 points
    Fast as hell, and tough as nails. Thank you, Jannik.
  45. 16 points
    Actually I think it's the right move. It just needs to be done more consistently. The refs should be held accountable.
  46. 16 points
    I'd say no for President, but maybe as a scout/assistant/consultant. Looking at his history, he never used his name for status gain. He literally worked his way up through the minors to get to the NHL as an amateur scout with the Bruins a few years back. He only started working for the Oilers in 2016, so he wasn't part of that "Ole Boys Club" that ruined that franchise in the mid 2000s to mid 2010s. He actually seems legit.
  47. 16 points
  48. 15 points
    There was a littletheme for this wedding~my little niece got her fingers on the cake XD
  49. 15 points
    If he's as bad as this dude says, he really is a perfect fit for the Oilers.
  50. 15 points
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