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  1. To VAN: Jordan Greenway (50%), Erik Johnson (50%), Kyle Okposo (50%) To BUF: Pius Suter, Aatu Raty, Danila Klimovich, Conditional 3rd (Make Conf Finals) Why Vancouver does this: Simple. They get bargain bin depth additions that can fill out the roster. All 3 of them, big mean, physical guys to round out what we need. When Healthy Petterson - Lindholm - Hoglander Mikheyev - Miller - Boeser Joshua - Blueger - Garland Greenway* - Lafferty - Okposo* (Di Guisseppe - Aman - Podkolzin) Hughes - Hronek Soucy - Myers Zadorov - Johnson* (Cole - Juulsen) That 4th line has a real identity, and would be hell to play and crash with. Move Lafferty to Center permanently, and give him 2 big mean monsters on his wings. That's a tough matchup, even for a 4th line. Plus, right now Greenway could step in for Joshua until he comes back on that third line again, or if the top 6 needs some size, you have an option. Now you have 2 bottom 6 lines that work. (I also think Mikheyev with his forecheck and hustle will be a better option for Miller and Boeser than Suter as well.) Erik Johnson, doesn't bring much at this point, but that's why he can be had for cheap, and he brings more of what we already have on the backend. After our 2 elite offensive talents, that's 6 big, heavy, mean, physical, punishing dmen that can rotate whoever is healthy. Don't expect Johnson to be some sort of gamebreaker, but he gives exactly what we need in that 1 more R Dman option, and makes us more of what our Defense is. Gigantic and scary. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Why Buffalo does this: Okposo and Johnson are both 35, on expiring deals, and have not had very good seasons on a bad team. The idea that Vancouver banks on, is put them on a good team, and they can still contribute in small roles. A this point, Buffalo should take whatever they can get for either one of them. Even if that means retaining salary. Greenway is the real prize here, but they would be receiving Suter in return, who is probably a better offensive talent. (He just doesn't fit what we need.) The real kicker would be the again, retaining on deals, especially with Greenway's deal going into next year. Well, with that, Aatu Raty is actually a solid prospect that could be on the Buffalo roster sooner rather than later. (If Vancouver plans to resign Lindholm and Blueger, they have no need for Raty) Losing 2 struggling expiring 35 year olds and Greenway for a 2 solid prospects, and Pius Suter in return. That sounds like solid return, even if they want another conditional pick or 2 on Canucks playoff success. (Which I personally like the idea of adding on to retained deals because it gives the team that's being asked to retain money something to go to their owner about and say, "Don't worry about that 2 mill. If they make the Conference Finals, think of it contributing to us getting an extra third.") ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Both teams lose pieces they don't need and won't miss, and gain things that they do. As for the Canucks, that is a roster with no holes, that can sustain 2 months of injuries and actually compete. Even if you have some lineup changes, I believe in that roster to actually win.
  2. The players I was looking for this game were Mostly, Hoglander, Virtanen, Gaudette, and Juolevi. If those 4 end up being impact players, then this team is DEEP. Pettersson, Boeser, Miller, Horvat, Pearson, Hoglander, Virtanen, and Gaudette???? Thats 8 legit impact forwards. If Juolevi plays even just pretty well, that's not a bad 3 D Pairings. Combine that with Demko and Holtby? Yeah this team can make a run.
  3. I'm all for this idea. My only thing is I feel if we did rid him now, we can capitalize on this year with Petterson and Hughes on Rookie deals and actually make a an impact the playoffs next year. But I think we are in agreement. I would rather lose out on a couple prospects and keep this team together than break it up because of what might be. This forward group is legit. If it came down to it, we could afford to lose someone like a Rathbone, a Lind, or both to keep this team together easily if you ask me.
  4. Agreed! But it seems like we are in the minority as people just love the idea of prospects. It appears that a first round pick is the going price to rid about 6 mill of your cap in a trade with a dead weight player. I would say if someone like an Ottawa would take a beagle on top that would mean giving up 2 of our super seven to sweeten the deal. If our Super Seven are (Podkolzin, Hoglander, Lind, Rathbone, Tryamkin, Rafferty and Dipietro) would you be willing to give up say two of these guys to get it done? To me it's a no brainer.
  5. Honestly, I would pony up as Toronto did, and pay the price to rid ourselves of the Eriksson contact, and maybe the Beagle contact if possible. I know the price is steep, but that forward group, with the added 9 mill from those two, you can put together a solid defence and resign Markstrom. If we get a free amnesty buyout, great. If not, well just pony up and trade him.
  6. Right now this could would make 3LW if you ask me. That means if we resign toffoli..... and maybe somehow rid ourselves of Eriksson you got Miller - Pettersson - Toffoli Pearson - Horvat - Boeser Hoglander - Gaudette - Virtanen Roussel - Sutter - Beagle/McEwen That is one hell of an opening night roster.
  7. Anthony DeAngelo could actually be real nice on this team. I'd consider it at least.
  8. With Boeser out, Toffoli still helps make a legitimate top 6. Miller - Pettersson - Virtanen Pearson - Horvat - Toffoli I am 100 percent comfortable riding with that going forward.
  9. I have to say... looking at that graphic... Yes the leafs have been abysmal since 1970... But our history needs some accolades too... Just being honest here... (Also... Arent Conference championships and Stanley Cup appearances the same thing?..)
  10. Ok. I'm not expecting him to be a lock next year, but if he's good enough that he has solid top 4 potential as a true defensive presence with upside, that's a win. You see him being a partner to Quinn Hughes in the future? I think Juolevi and Soderstrom could be a good pairing. Can Woo be good for Hughes?
  11. How good is Jett Woo? This year admittedly I have had much less time to keep up with our prospects, this year. Is Woo good enough to be a lock on the NHL level yet? Does he project top 4? Third pairing?
  12. I think Soderstrom is going to be a great pick for us. Hughes, Juolevi, and Soderstrom is not a bad defensive core going forward.
  13. Good post. I think people a lot of times get lost in the result and forget about the context. Hindsight is always 20/20. Your point about if we didn't sign anyone people would have called for JBs head is 100 percent accurate. And it turns out, all those free agents weren't so good. I remember I was a Virtanen over Ehlers and Nylander guy. I can admit that both those 2 are better players, but, Jake brings something to this young core that we need. Size and speed. He'll never be the offensive players they are, but I like Jakes game, and i can see him becoming a solid winger for Horvat or Gaudette whose extremely hard to play against and can pot a good number of goals. Virtanen's problem isn't his game, it's where he was drafted. If Virtanen was drafted 23rd overall and Boeser at 6, things would be a lot more in line, so I give JB a pass for that. Boeser pick cancels out Virtanen pick.
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