Warhippy

I concur, it feels like the one missing piece to make it complete.

I'd stop in if I didn't have my son with me.

Damn.  We're kid friendly until 7:30

At least you weren't born in 1968 and always have that thought in the back of your mind "Was I conceived because the Leafs won the Stanley Cup?"

Honestly I feel like Jarvis is worth more than that entire list, and he was drafted at #14. Grundstrom is nothing special, Durzi just got traded for a song. Ceulemans is young but hasn't really done enough to put himself on the radar and Stenberg is still a shiny toy.

It's not easy to get difference makers from late picks. It makes me wonder if Gillis had been more aggressive and traded away the picks that eventually became Schroeder, Gauce, Jensen, Rodin etc.

@Toews  That's *always* been my position.  Not the argument put forth by a number here that "Gillis traded away too many picks".  He didn't go 'all in" enough (imho).  Kind of opposite the problem of Benning who dealt away too many picks and not made enough attempts to acquire more picks to play to the strength of his management (drafting).

Tanev was a right side defenseman (though he was an undrafted prospect).  I think Gagner was the scout that "found him".  

Who would've thought that Brian Burke was right all along!  I *think* he said something along the lines that Gagner was the *KEY* component of the Bure trade.  Something like "if Gagner wasn't included in the trade, we don't do the deal".  Gagner later was hired by Mike Gillis to be a scout after his playing days were over.

Source? 
 

Also, what’s plan b then?

Can't blame him...  why would anyone wanna sign in a media market like Vancouver.  No appreciation for players that put their bodies on the line for your team, just fake controversies, constant trade rumours, and higher taxation.  

JT Miller has been getting crucified for the last two years in this market even though he's put up two great seasons with very little fanfare. 

We don't have a plan A, let alone a plan B.

He's not even getting what Severson got, nevermind $8 million...

at the end of the day you still have to pay good players, OEL buyout next offseason 

This is why I laugh at the " market " system in place, it is so screwed up and as these people with money all play this game of a market and values it makes zero sense and outliers are pushed as legit and puts the whole system out of whack lol

Lots of good Canadian kids to cheer for.  Won't be a series i ignore my other responsibilities for though  

You proud of the Staal brothers play these playoffs?@Ghostsof1915

No but I can cheer for them. They are still contributing. 

Retool!?
We are rebuilding/tooling in a unique way.  Eschew pics and take players who are looking for big money soon to take advantage of all our cap space. 

Half hour discussing every move the leafs made. Same thing as the rest of this week

What other executives around the league are saying about the leafs.  How every player they traded for always dreamed about playing for the leafs.  

Hopefully Boeser, Garland, Myers and Miller trades

  I have to agree.  The OEL/Garland Trade is looking worse and worse in hind sight every game we see.  Losing those top 10 picks, also is problematic.  It is gambling/shortcutting that has consistently put this club behind the 8 ball for the last decade or so.  Coupled with a development system that only seems to really work if the player is talented enough to skip it, we're looking more Oiler-esque than not.

  This roster is built wrong.  It is supplemented by not that much, and I don't know if there is any easy fix to quickly turn it around.   BUT, if we can accurately diagnose and do surgery on this roster, I still believe that we can turn it around with a semblance of the core.  

  There are some good pieces, and some good pieces implemented by this management group.  Mikeyev, Kuzmenko, Bear, etc aren't the problem, per se.  So at least those added pieces have value.  But we need to figure out Horvat, Miller, Myers, OEL, Schenn, Pearson, etc.  If you don't stick the landing on this before next season, we are in for a long term pain, with nothing in the pipeline that can be seen as impactful in terms of reinforcements from Below.

The point is @Phil_314 is that we would have had the 6 or 7  million cap space to acquire that RHD we need and a ELC to soften the impact. We would also have enough to re-sign Horvat and Kuzmenko. 

The point is Benning never planned for the future.

@J.I.A.H.N totally valid, and as serviceable as Garland and OEL were last season, things clearly fell off the rails for both which makes this trade look even less palatable (esp. considering Horvat/ Kuz need new contracts).  If we had time machines I'd bet 99% of Canucks fans would hope to go back and stop Benning from making that trade call, so Loui/ Beagle/ Roussel's contracts could just fall off the books, but no point crying over what's already happened.

@hammertimeI 100% think it's a coaching issue.  BB is just not the coach for him.

That McJedi guy over there always makes me want to dox him and beat him to a pulp. He’s so brain dead.

I'd do Hoglander for Cal Foote.  Tampa has alot of RHD right now and Foote is on their 3rd pairing.  And they don't have many young players up front.  Cap wise it works as well as both are RFA's in the summer...

Boes for Laf. Im good with this. Retain Kuz

This would be a very good deal for us.  

@#Canucks you're not getting Laf for Boeser with NY having the same cap issues we are.  Kuz is under a million

Bruce 

Bruce 

BoHO is as good as gonzo.  Bye bye and Boo Hoo to Bo Ho.  

Just saw Exodus, Testament and Death Angel. Last month. It was wicked. Unfortunately I live up North so my trips to Van are limited 

We got nothing besides the two on the list, Klimovich and maybe McDonagh if we're being homers and generous (I'm sure every other team has a guy like him); the rest are projects.

Good depth defencemen. 

A healthy bottom pairing of Rathbone - Subban would be absolutely sick. Subban's play & #s aren't bad for a sub 3M d-man, he was just severely overpaid for what he brought the last couple years. On a 1-year, show me deal @ 2M I'd be stoked to bring him in. Doesn't fix the Hughes pairing issue tho.

Or just trade for Ethan Bear the arb RFA ex Oiler right shot d.

Yeah Chicago's going into a full rebuild.  I would trade our 1st round pick (15th OA) for Dach in an instant btw. 

I'd do our first and Rathbone..  Dach is exactly what we need going forward.

1st and Rathbone for Dach 

Then turn around and trade JT for a 1st and more...  one can dream 

I'd go with Trotz over him. Cooper maybe, but Gallant is very high up there for sure.

My point is that with 3 different teams in 5 years look what he has done.

Taken a no name no talent Florida team to respectability.

Vegas to a cup final and playoff berth

Rangers on the cusp of an eastern conference final

228 wins, 135 losses, 36 otl.

That winning percentage is genuinely insane and when you consider he missed most of a year after 2016/2017 being dumped by the Panthers...man

Florida wasn't without talent. It just wasn't as good as it is now.

I'd think differently if he went to Arizona and got the Coyotes into the playoffs.

The fact that two teams dropped him when he ran into bad streaks (All teams have bad streaks, not many coaches get dismissed when that happens)

I can excuse the first one because Florida at the time was a mess. But the dismissal from Vegas

still raises questions from me. Was he rubbing players the wrong way? Is there something going on

that they won't go public about? Was he demanding more input on players and trades?

Bobrovsky is way overrated. He had 1 excellent season, everyone overrates him, and now hes sitting on a 7 year 70million dollar contract. 

Goalies do matter, especially if you are one of those teams that has had crap goalie for years, you feel it. cough Philly and Edmonton. 

AV for Tampa: $9.5 million

Markstrom for Calgary: $6 million

Bobrovsky for Panthers: $10 million

Fleury for the Wild: $3.5 million

Igor Shesterkin: $5.6 million

Quick for LA: $5.8 million

And of the non-playoff teams: Price in Montreal: $10.5 million who did go to the Stanley Cup Finals. 

The reality is don't overpay for quality goaltending. But offer a reasonable contract. 

@Drakrami cant remember if they signed bobroksky that contract before they drafted spencer knight be interesting to see what happens in the future with that.

Saw it earlier, get movie 

Yeah watched it today as well. Dude I don’t want to spoil it but some of what I saw was just absolutely mental  
 

Spoiler alert:

So how does that chick get absolutely spliced in half by the Shield meanwhile Iron Man survives 30 blows to the head from Captain freaking America 

@Odd. **More spoilers:

I’m still shook at how Wanda/Scarlet Witch took out the entire Illuminati in literally 2 minutes. 

@Warhippy @King Heffy

You both make really good points. Like I said, I'm just not convinced Domi would be worth that cap hit. 

Tell you what - if I'm wrong on this you can call me out and I will happily admit it

37 goals in his last 3 years.  Not sure he is a legit top 6 forward right now.  He would need to sign a short term show me deal to get those numbers up.  Paying him $5 million+ right now would be insane...

I'm really liking this idea lately. Bo is central to this team. His role and salary means he has to be playing a top role so at least second line center. How many years have we seen no one but Pearson seem to be a fit with him 5v5. Well we know they have chemistry on the ice, he was also one of Horvat's groomsmen at his wedding. He also adds some much needed toughness. I too would be concerned with his ability to score and generate goals.