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  1. the term is doable. we couldnt have gotten him with 5 Yr offer. so either 6 or nothing. He made the right choice. He will play at his salary for 4 years. 5th year maybe a bit overpriced, and year 6 we can deal him at the deadline. WORST comes to worst, we may have to buy him out last year. Even though 3 yrs older, I bet anyone he lasts longer then Lucic. Ladd and Backes too
  2. No but Markus would slide to the left. Virtanen or Etem Grinding to get those danglers the puck. Its why Vey played suprisingly well with them. Or Granlund Granlund Rodin could be a great line
  3. I hated losing Santorelli and hated losing Richardson even more. Closest we came to them since was Cracknell. I think we really need that type of player badly, especially since Higgins is gone and likely to be as well. Darren Helm would have been nice, Wings overpaid though. Too bad Trevor Lewis didn't make the market
  4. Here is a list of some LW/C that JB could be going after. I went through all the teams cuz im a loser, and chose guys I think we would like, but also: had an off-year, their teams tight on cap, they signed similar player, too many at the position, or just that their young and are starting out well, so JB will want to get them Andrew Cogliano, Zengus Girgensons, Marcus Foligno, Joakim Nordstrom, John Mitchell, Matt Calvert, Mattias Janmark, Antoine Roussel, Dwight King, Jason Zucker, Tommy Wingels, Matt Nieto, Cedric Paquette, Leo Komarov, Adam Lowry Another one that doesnt really fit what we are in need of, but I feel may get moved, is Mikael Granlund. With Staal, Coyle and Koivu now as the top 3 centre's, I think that should spell the end for Granlunds frustrating up and down time in Minnesota. I can see him moved for a dman and/or winger.
  5. Why do so many people think we will get Hartnell. I love him too, but we could have got a younger Brouwer for free if he wanted. NMC is a deal killer. On top of Sedin Sedin Eriksson Hansen Sutter Baertschi, at least one of Rodin Granlund Gaunce Etem or this new guy we get, will rip it up this year and force us to protect them. With Hartnell in, we risk losing all of those guys. The guy we get will likely be more of a helm type. 10-15 goals, fast, two-way, kills penalties, LW/C, makes under 3 mil, not 34 yrs old. He will likely check opposition 1st line with Sutter and Hansen. Baertschi shouldnt be that guy. Him, Horvat and Rodin/Etem/Virtanen should be given more offensive zone starts. You guys think its possible he has plans to put Granlund over at LW, and acquires a very good 4th line centre that brings what Richardson did? I think ideally he brings in a guy who can play BOTH C or LW like Granlund. Granlund plays better at centre, but his faceoffs are worse then Vey and McCann
  6. Wow Samuelsson. Totally forgot. Man he was great in his first playoffs here. Too bad Vrbata didnt have heart like that. I honestly believe he didnt give a fack about anything or anyone. Purposely shat the bed and gave a list of non playoff teams. Its why I think we can compete for wildcard this year. 3 weeks before deadline, we were right there before Wild and Avs pulled away. Injuries, McCann n Vey playing top 6, depleted D, Weber Biega Hutton and Bartkowski was the top 4. Dorsett Prust and Hank injured all year. Sutter missing. Vrbata's effort. I think we will be pushing LA and Edmonton for 3rd, and ultimately finish in a Wildcard or just outside, 7, 8, 9, 10. Last year our team was worse over summer. Bieksa Richardson gone. Sutter was supposed to be our only improvement. This year, the team is a lot better. JB had a much better summer. McCan Vey Weber Bartkowski replaced will make a big difference.
  7. I told you, few days before the deadline. No thats what they wanted. I didnt say offer. And it wasnt JB who said no, Hamhuis didnt respond fast enough for Chicago's liking. Dunno if Pokka Vrbata were in that offer they made, but it was said Hamhuis for sure, and 1st was offered. Them wanting Hamhuis and Vrbata both (kill two birds with one stone), was rumor, but noone knows if there was an official offer. Hamhuis for sure. Might have even been Benning who was my source lol. He said something bout all that I think. I dunno man, im sure if you search, you'll find it. Maybe someone on here will be kind enough to confirm this. Either way I don't wanna argue anymore regarding something that didnt come out my mouth originally
  8. Can someone else confirm this or remind me how it went down cuz im 99% certain this was it. Again, im not on Nucks or Stars management team so I dunno how it exactly went down. But pretty sure this was the talk
  9. I dont know man you find it. Im sure its there somewhere. If I remember correctly, word was Hamhuis was their main target, not Ladd, but Hamhuis took too long so they took Ladd. It was actually a few days prior to the deadline I think. Ppl biitch about Hammer, but its JBs fault he waited so long when it was obvious this was gonna be the way things would go. Think they actually wanted both Hammer+Vrbata, cost being 1st+Pokka. When Dallas calls, payment wasnt as high so our owner, now spoiled by Chicago offer, tells JB go get more (probably 1st instead of 2nd, or Lindell instead of Jokipakka). So dallas gets Russel instead. Offer off the table. They come back saying we'll still take Hammer. No more 2nd, Pollock, or Jokipakka though. Give you this guy and a 3rd. Take that to your owner. JB says its our only option, take what we can? Owner says no, im too stubborn ill take nothing. It wasnt Jim Nill vs Jim Benning. It was Gaglardi saying fack you Aquilini's. They're personal beef, and greed, was the reason we got zip. "We like Russell over Hamhuis". Sure budz. Thats why Russells a UFA and Hamhuis is signed an hour after he's no longer on Aquilini's payroll
  10. A bit lol. Me personally I think he'll battle Etem for spot on 4th to start. Remember them protecting Bo in his second year from seeing opposition top lines, signing Sutter? Look what happened to Vey and McCann when our 3 centres got injured. Disaster. 55 shots against. I think Rodin and Hansen will be RW's on those two lines. Hansen checking top lines., Rodin other line that has bit more offensive starts.... Sutter checking, Horvat other line.... UFA/Trade checking line, Baertschi other line. Dorsett Granlund Virtanen Etem rotate 4th. Burrows we have over 2 months to find him a home. After hearing that, you think that sounds likely to be managements thinking?
  11. I wouldnt want him over Eriksson, but many as well as him.Brouwer said CGY was a family decision to be close to the kids aunts uncles n grandparents. Brouwer said he never talked to JB, his agent did once. CGY made a nice pitch and got him cheap and not very long. If JB put in a little more time n effort, guaranteed we could get him at 4 or slightly over. For me, I don't like that too much. Pisses me off almost as much as waiting to ask Hamhuis the inevitable question of can you waive NTC, and to whom. This way, we would have had a 1st from Chicago days before the deadline
  12. Can people stop putting Virtanen on the 2nd line. Sorry you are the one I quote bro, I just see it in at least 50% of peoples lineups and I wanna get it outta ppl's heads
  13. Shut up everyone who says he isnt physical.. ya for the cpl canada games he played he didnt throw hits.. His role is to be defensively responsible and play positionally sound hockey.. If u watch him with London he hits as well.. With the puck, he shields the puck using his big body.. He isnt exactly a hitter like a milan lucic.. he plays physical like Bertuzzi Obviously Bert had his hits on Jackman and others every now and then, but for the most part, what he did was rub guys off the puck cuz he was much stronger then them.. Are u gonna say Bert wasnt physical cuz he didnt hit that much And no, Horvats stock is not falling.. On Canada he is used exactly how he will be used in the NHL his first season or two.. He wont be put in an offensive situation like Hodgson was.. Once he is 22-23 u will start to see his offensive game evolve and turn into a two way player like he is with London.. For now, this is what u will see from Horvat cuz thats whats gonna get him onto an NHL lineup... U didnt even get to see 1st OA picks like Thornton or Lecavalier`s offense until their 2nd seasons.. They started out as reliable 3rd liners who can chip in O`Reilly and Sutter are great comparables If you want former Canuck comparables Id say he will start out as a Magnus Arvedson and finish off as a Greg Adams.. Was gonna say Linden but thats a bit far fetched
  14. Gorges or Myers via trade would be great (although I think we sign Fayne/Engelland) Iginla and Comeau UFA signings along with Miller would make my day (Cammalleri/Setoguchi if no Iginla) Ben Street and Clayton Stoner are other hometown UFA's that we could sign to cheap Santorelli deals What about Heatley at 2 yrs 5 mil?
  15. Rebuilding Edmonton style is not the way though.. Those players are used to losing now... We have to have a winning positive environment.. Get younger and kind of in a way, rebuild on the fly... Next year make it as the 8th seed, and every year move up 2 spots... Add Hiller/Miller, Moulson/Cammalleri, Ehrhoff/Pitkanen, and we actually are not that bad.. I say we can take Minnesota Colorado or Dallas out of the playoff picture Although not the age we want, Higgins and Burrows go to the net and battle, just like Benning likes.. Burrows value is at an all time low so it would not be smart to move him now.. I say a perimeter player like Hansen would be the first one out.. Ppl may go off on me for saying this, but dont be suprised if Richardson is moved either (If Horvat beats him out at camp).. LA let him go because of his lack of physicality.. Some would say Horvat should go to junior instead of playing 4th line minutes.. But this year I think our 4th line plays 10+ mins a game.. Dorsett averaged 11mins
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