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  1. No coach would have given him more ice time and no coach would have stood for a 6'-7" 240 lb demolition ball "dogging it" every few games. H e refused to use his attributes consistently so he was less the player he could have been. End of story and WGAF. Stay off the booze, you just embarrass yourself. Tryamkin won't come back here because there will be no room for him and Green would bench a giant snowflake who didn't want to CONSISTENTLY use his size anyway.
  2. With respect we don't know what Hughes's problem is until he plays in the NHL - if he has a problem at all.
  3. Now that you mention it - growing pains, is that what Jordan Subban, Dal Colle and Shink had? Any player, no matter where he is drafted has to show he can play the type of game that survives in the NHL. No one is a given, so you shouldn't dismiss another poster's concerns.
  4. I really am amazed at how many think Hughes will just walk into the team. I have big reservations on that and would prefer to see him help Utica if he is eligible and they are in the playoffs. There is no need to hurry him.
  5. You and your buddy need to learn a bit about logic. I could say I don't really fancy Lady Gaga but if I come home and find her in my bed I might think "what the hell, ok if you insist" It's all about context. The fact that the guy said good riddance was a comment on his attitude. If he comes back with an improved attitude why wouldn't he welcome him back? The trouble with many of you people is you try to keep score like 5th graders and in your world no one gets to change their opinion. Which might be fine if so many were not first class hypocrites. Hockey is a sport, it's about opinions, usually ill-informed opinions at that. None of us are coaches or GMs we just act like we are on here - including me.
  6. You are only making my case.
  7. And it really bugs the f--k out of people like you doesn't it? Well here's a news flash I have got a lot more from where that has come from.
  8. Where does this come from. He did well by all the prospects that were given to him, even those who were clearly not ready. WD got dogs abuse for his treatment of Goldobin when all he wanted was what Green wants now - and now people on here apparently want to trade Goldy saying he just doesn't get it. (I disagree by the way) McCann looked a hell of a lot better here than he does EVEN NOW in Florida imo. If he had had the size he has now in Vancouver he would have been running riot under WD OR Green. McCann was getting 12:31 mins ATOI under WD and even now that he is 195lbs and 6'-1" he is averaging only 14:4 mins two years later. Bo was sheltered, protected by DD and taught defence. He is now one of the top two way centres in the League averaging 21 mins per night. Stecher and Hutton were both nurtured under WD and Jake was doing well after the WJC (where he was slagged by the Van media) till the end of that season but decided to come back for the next season as Mr Blobby. He was sent down to get fit in Utica, that was not WD's fault and come to think of it I didn't hear much complaint from anyone other than Tryamkin when management and coaches suggested this route for the Russian when he was visibly out of condition. From what I read Green also told Jake the same things that WD had been telling him about consistency and using his size. Boeser was played right away for ATOI of over 16 mins for the last 9 games. This was because he was not only a hard grafter but he could handle the mins due to his fitness from the end of the College season. Rodin was proved to have not recovered from his Swedish League injury and yet WD was crucified for not playing him by the empty jars on here. His injury was so bad, management decided to give up on him and release him Baertschi was turned round and gave WD credit for it, as was Granlund. Tryamkin after he got fit was turned from a VERY RAW naive defender into a player who went back to dominate in his own league the following season. I put it to anyone the thing that held Tryamkin from bigger minutes here was not WD but Tryamkin. He refused to use his god given advantages any more than randomly and if he had WD would have given him more time. One other thing was Tryamkin's duplicity concerning his understanding the language. I recall at least 2 of his team mates saying he understood a lot more than he let on. What was the point of concealing that, other than some kind of paranoid attitude. That was unfair to the coaches. WD had his faults I don't deny but most were based in a naive belief that Management would not only supply him with prospects who had the talent to stick but that they were ready for the NHL. Where is LaBate, Grenier, Boucher, Goldobin, Molino, Rodin, Shore, Etem, Freisen, Kenins, Pedan, Shink, now? And when these were proven inadequate he was given Cramarossa, Chaput, Larsen, Megna, Rendulic, Skille, Zalewski, Fedun, Cracknell, Prust, Vey - All players WD had to use in his last 2 seasons.
  9. I would have added Stecher, Puliot, Tanev, Beagle, Baertschi to that list and probably Loui too. I might have left Boeser off though (I think his skating needs work) Tryamkin was not a top skater he was very good for his size. ie he was more elegant than lumbering - he was no Chara though.
  10. Well on that basis Torts had the Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Edler, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Luongo it didn't help him "Stale" was the word he used wasn't it? Form has a lot to do with where players are at in their career. Unfortunately even stars need youth on their side and decent players around them. I actually don't understand the firing of John Stevens though.
  11. Of course I have high expectations. I am entitled to have them given their form and JB's record. The hard facts for Tryamkin and a few on here is 6'6 etc etc etc or not, he is playing in a league which is hardly better than the AHL and when people like Hughes, Rathbone, Woo McEneny etc get established Tryamkin will find his size will not be enough to elevate him above 6/7 D. PLAYING 13-14 mins a night. Now we all know what happens next. He made a choice based on family and homesickness (and Vancouver weed aromas) and I am quite sure he will be happy to live with it and stay the rest of his career making easy money in his home town. What that will do for the sanity of people like SilentSam who knows and frankly who cares. By the way you are not any more qualified to say his usage by WD was garbage than I am or indeed Tryamkin. Live with it, as Tryamkin does.
  12. And by that time good luck to him getting past Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Hughes, Rathbone, Woo, Juolevi and maybe even Brisebois, McEneny, Sautner. Oh and whoever we might pick this year.
  13. And the point is Utica is THEIR team, THEIR "life," they don't have to care a rats ass for Vancouver, and so of course they fret over things they "perceive" to be against them. They don't look on their team as an affiliate they see them as their home town heroes. Some of us need to walk for a bit in their shoes. Jeez we should be the last people to throw stones in that respect.
  14. True and one tough guy (not counting Mac and Gadj) who is willing to stick up for his team mates as we have seen can be infectious and gives the others bigger cahonas.
  15. His first half was down to his lack of conditioning but even when he was fit he was not even in the top 4 (not even on cyoung's "Disneyland eye test stat". Why make an exception to hard hockey stats just to suit your bias? Maybe we should look at ALL players that way, that is just stupid. I didn't debate SID's post because I have made my point and I did not want to waste any more time on this cr-p, I also did not see SID actually counter what I said. Tryamkin achieved the stats I showed NOT playing against the top lines 5 on 5 - enough said. Even SID's shot blocking counter is suspect as Tryamkin could be said to have a body twice as big as Stecher yet also lacks Stecher's mobility to get in front of a shot. I am happy for anyone to say he MIGHT have been the Canucks 4th D but I suspect he was more like their 5th and no way was he 3rd.
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