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@Phil_314 - I appreciate your feedback.  
 

I’m not sure if I quite agree that Benning has leverage over Arizona’s GM.   Arizona isn’t obligated to deal with Vancouver and can simply let OEL sit if he feels that Vancouver is trying to low ball him (or just try and deal with Boston or wait for OEL to extend his desired destinations).   
 

The deal has to make sense for Arizona. They aren’t just going to give us OEL for two young pieces that haven’t lived up to expectations (Virtanen and Juolevi) + our poop (Eriksson, etc.).   
 

If the Canucks get OEL, then OEL and Hughes will likely be our top two LD’s for the next 5 years.  Hence, guys like Juolevi, Rathbone, and even Tryamkin should he decide to return, may have limited opportunity in terms of moving up on the depth chart.     Hence, making them expendible.
 

I would absolutely hate to lose Rathbone but If moving Rathbone (who would essentially be an extraneous piece for us if we had both OEL and Hughes) allows us to keep both Hoglander and Podkolzin, that’s a deal that I easily do.

Ditto for Demko.   We can fantasize all we want about how the Canucks will be able to keep both Demko and Markstrom beyond next season, but all you’re doing is creating another Luongo/Schneider situation, and that’s of course, if Demko doesn’t get picked up in the expansion draft.

If the Canucks can get Arizona to take on some of our garbage contracts that ar buyout friendly (ie Baertschi, Sutter, and Ferland who has a good chance of being LTIR’d, AND not have to give up Hoglander or Podkolzin), then I think we make out like gangbusters.  
 

Next season:

Miller-Pettersson-Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Toffoli

Roussel-Gaudette-MacEwen

Motte-Beagle-Eriksson

OEL-Myers

Hughes-Tanev

Edler-Stecher

Markstrom

NewBackUp

2021 off-season:

-Hoglander replaces Pearson

-Either Podkolzin replaces one of Toffoli or Boeser (who gets traded for a draft pick), OR Podkolzin gets used as a sweetener to clear out some bad contracts (ie Beagle and Roussel)
-Tryamkin or a cheap 3rd vet that can kill Penalties replaces Edler

-Eriksson moved to a cap floor team (1 year left plus only 2 million in real dollars owed = fairly easy to do).

-Dipietro replaces our vetbackup goalie.

All of the above should allow for the Canucks to be able to sign Pettersson and Hughes.

2021-2022:

Miller-Pettersson-Boeser

Hoglander-Horvat-Podkolzin

Roussel-Gaudette-MacEwen

Motte-Beagle-NewGuy

OEL-Myers

Hughes-Tanev

Tryamkin-Stecher

Markstrom

Dipietro

Sorry but looking at the lineup you created alone already tells me you don't understand about the cap.

Even with trading Sutter and Baertschi, this isn't an EA NHL game from the 2000's with no cap ceiling, so there's next to no way we can bring everyone back (Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli, OEL and Stecher would probably cost $28-$30 million dollars) and not give up Eriksson who you still have on your 4th line.

I understand the cap but couldn't be arsed to look up the numbers.  

FYI - In my above example, Arizona would take on Sutter, Baertschi, AND Ferland.   The reason why I mentioned those three guys as opposed to Eriksson, is because Eriksson is buyout proof (i.e. minimal cap hit reduction from a buyout), whereas that's not quite the case with Sutter and Baertschi.  Ferland is also an extremely good candidate to be LTIR'd, and so Arizona might be willing to take him on.    

IN:  OEL:  8.25 million

OUT:  Ferland + Baertschi + Sutter:  3.5 million + 3,366,666 million + 4,375 million = 11.241 million

11.241 million - 8.25 million = 2.741 million savings for us.   Arizona would still be cap compliant taking on those contracts, but barely.    Buying all or some of the guys that I mentioned should allow them to afford both Virtanen and Rathbone's cap hits.    

From our end, in an independent deal, we could use Demko as a sweetener to move out Eriksson which would give us the cap space needed to make us compliant for the coming year.     

BTW - my assumption with the Stecher signing is that we'd be able to move Benn somehow without retention.   Otherwise, unqualify Stecher.  

Anyways - the main point I'm trying to make is that both the Canucks and Coyotes could make things work from a cap standpoint before the season starts (either through dealing exclusively with each other or through independent deals once they've made the trade). 

FWIW - I don't think we'll end up moving Demko, and Eriksson would likely go to Arizona.   One of our young d-men that doesn't go to AZ (i.e. Rathbone or Juolevi), would end up being used in an independent deal to move someone like Baertschi or Ferland.  

Wouldn't it be more ideal to send Loui to balance some of the cap? Arizona won't have to pay him nearly what he cap hit is, which helps considering they're likely gonna be hurting financially. 

Myers does give them someone useful on the back end though. 

Hmm, though I suppose neither of them really help Arizona's cap scenario either. They have to sign players and they have nearly no cap space. Don't imagine they'd be looking to take much cap back, which would require more decisions on our end to facilitate the move. 

Ideally we just don't pursue and he goes to Boston. 

No, because Myers' contract expires in five years, while Loui's expires in two. Unless we send both.

But yeah, ideally we don't pursue.

People are so sensitive these days, cant just be grateful we live in such a wonderful country. Of course this nation was built using some shady tactics, pretty much all great nations were build on the back of war or slavery (Most time both). 

Andrew Schulz sums it up nicely

People have too much time on their hands too these days...  this is the first time I've heard John A MacDonald's name since grade 12, which was 20 years ago! 

At this point, it's almost better to assume you won't get any good faith on the internet.

What drama? Some of us are just very confused individuals. I need my own section in the DSM for the levels of confusion I experience on a daily basis.

epic...

Reeves is a professional clown and has been ineffective after game 1!

Reaves has been invisible. And silent. No chicken clucking, no mugging for the camera, no laughing, no taunting. It is almost as if he realizes that at 33, with no offensive contribution and eight goals, fifteen points and a $2.775 million salary, and now a UFA, his career could be over before the frost is on the pumpkin.

I thought you kids just had to swipe for that kind of stuff now 

Good for you.

Always good to invest in real estate,start small, work up slowly and carefully and retire without a mortgage and you are in gravy.

Wise decisions are sometimes scary and the cash flow will be tight for the near future but it is the end game that will look rosy.

You will then have the leverage to see how the banks can crunch the numbers in your favour and invest in things you enjoy like helping your family or travel or more property.That perfect sized dream house or whatever.

Congrats!

Great stuff!

Man that jersey just came in, that was quick!

It said authentic but these aren't authentic they're replicas.  Oh well.

too bad I couldn't get there in time for a Horvat jersey, the site kept crashing. luckily I managed to grab two canucks hats, one canucks hoodie, two team Canada hats, and one team Canada jacket. great deals!

it ain't ez 2 B-Cheesey

The real news here is that they're giving the Canucks a 72% chance of making the playoffs as well. That's the highest I've seen so far. 

So it is written so it shall be done,

Myself and all the Canuck fans around the globe would enjoy that immensely.

I saw that! But I'm not in Vancouver and I'm looking to get away from sports writing, so I'm not sure if it's the best move for me to apply.

hope he can get his head out of the ground. 

That interview's quite a stretch!

didn’t you just have a birthday, last year.? give those candles, a good blow job.

Agree with Alflives here.   If Myers is solid for us, it takes the load off Edler and Tanev and shifts everyone below them down a spot to where they are better suited.   Cautiously optimistic! 

Canucks offseasons have been getting better and better lately.

Even if he doesn't blow people away having him as depth is great, he takes some of the weight off of Edler and Tanev's veteran shoulders. Benn does too. 

What's really made me happy about Benning's work this summer is he's been able to nail the dollar amount without giving away term to compensate for it. 

@canuktravella that's sacrificing long-term gain for short-term gain. If the goal is to make the playoffs, sure. Thinking like that will never get you the Stanley Cup.

I don’t want to believe our front office is stupid enough to offer him that type of deal but they reek of desperation

 ya having a decent vet d is fine  we have tons of cap even when petersson needs next massive contract  he might get 12 mill in 2 yrs 

Hmmmmmm hmmm hmmmm hmm hmmmmmm

:')

Actually, if you read the 5th word in everyone of my posts going back to 2017, I’ve been writing an absolutely filthy Horvat/Boeser fanfic.

Fanfic = fan fiction, it's a story about two people/characters and many are erotic

Well refer to the Carly drawing of me and the Sedin guy in the dungeon.  We've got this covered.

Athletics had an article saying Broberg isn't going to be worth the hype.

They also have the Canucks selecting Caufield

Caufield goes to the Habs @15.  They like Smurfs. 

I don't think anyone would, but 7th rounders are crapshoots anyhow. I don't think it would hurt at all. As Baer said, she's 120 lbs, and she's not even "tall" like Hilary Knight is. She'd get destroyed.

The Islanders used a pick on Andong Song which I'm pretty sure was just a publicity stunt to draft the first Asian player. So anything can happen.

I have no problem with women in the NHL if they can handle it.

Ahh well, we got a Swedish Datsyuk instead, just had to wait a few more years!

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Remember when Alf was a real entertaining show?

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I don’t.

I'm iffy on the colour scheme of the third jerseys, but love everything else.

I like them too!  

I really like like the main jerseys, and it's awesome to see the skate back too. 

Those third jerseys tho