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Isn't this less than his qualifying offer. Or would that offer be 2 way and this is 1 way

I have greater belief that this team will be better defensively than they will be on the power play. Yes, the 2nd unit will be better with OEL and Garland and even Dickenson to center it, but the one thing I know about hockey is, it is a possession game and with this new top 9 forward group and Motto and Sutter where they belong (on the 4th line) this team will have one of the best possession numbers in the league and as it goes if a team has the puck more than the opposition that's the best defense.

It was a OK year and I don't see the AHL developing to many good players that weren't good to start with. The AHL like the Canadian junior system is to water down. And it shows the worse in the WHL, QMJHL is not to far behind. The deepest developmental leagues right now are OHL and USHL. With the US college leagues being pretty good as well do to the fact when those guys go un-draft they get to an older age and it is easier to see what the player will actually be like

Because he played WHL and lately that league sucks. Offensive players are all over inflated. I would consider BCHL better right now over the WHL. Kole Lind will amount to nothing

This is Nurse's 3rd contract as little baring on Hughes contract.

Nothing to compare Gaunce doesn't have NHL skating abilities. Dickinson is a proven shut down guy. Gaunce needs to start in the defensive zone. If he started in the offensive zone he wouldn't be able to transition quick enough to defense. Those that can skate would fly by him. I don't deny his ability to play defense but most can see he can't skate at the NHL level. Some times it can be learned like Horvat did other times others can't get it.

You give me heck for defending JBs signings all the time. Even call me a troll some times. You just did it in my Poolman thread. Then here you defend him I have no idea where you stand. Are you a flip flopper.

That goes to show how much the media knows Hughes is a number 1 d-man show me 32 d-men better than him. OEL is a #2 show me 64 D-men who are better to prove me wrong. Hamonic, Myers and Poolman you can argue where they belong but show me 6×32=192 D-men better than them. Even our depth players Rathbone and OJ are still mostly rookies most every has a rookie D-man in their top 6. Schenn is a 6-7 service able nhl D-man as well show me 192 d-man better if not he is a top 6. If so show me 224 d-men better otherwise he is a top 7.

He's a hater being a hater

I would also point out a lot of what you wrote goes on to tell exactly why drafting outside of the top 5 and sometimes even top 2 spots is a crap shoot. This year they had 9th overall in a year nobody could scout properly. One a team has built a core it is wiser to trade picks for proven players rather than to draft players. I feel a lot of people can not get there heads around the fact that drafting 18 year olds is a crap shoot in itself. Every pro league has seen #1 picks go bust. Look at the 1999 year for a prime example. The research you did on this is incredible.

Someone who really gets it I have a post I am getting ready for the beginning of the season that will fit nicely to this topic. Well done on your post. I completely agree

So you except You made me do it because your comment was so negative. Why so negative the? Don't you want to see them win. Or are you one of those that just want to keep complaining. I have followed the Canucks since 1992 I can say with confidence that this is one of the deepest teams they are about to ice. It will just be a matter of how quick they come together. I can see them going deep into the playoffs this season and next season this team will be the same and doing even far better.

I will make you a bet, I will bet you $1000 to Canuck place and the loser has to post receipt to CDC as prove. My Bet the Canucks will finish top 10 in PP, PK, fewest goals allowed, most goals for. Do you take my Bet. I feel you won't.

See interesting I found is that people who don't understand advance stats hate it. It keeps them out of the loop and they say it doesn't matter. To a math guy the say it is the most important thing in the world. To a guy like myself who played in the WHL and university and understands this stuff they say it has a place to play just as a great defensive couch has a place to play in the game. Advance stats tell you the mentality of an individual his he risk prone like Hughes or low risk like Tanev and everything in between. To me Poolman has the stats that say he has the mentality to be lower risk and still produce offense that is what I would call a more balanced player and there for the ability to be better than Tanev who is one dimensional. Poolman will play the defensive game give you some points and even a little grit. For me it is the other things Poolman does that will make him a better player.

Nope Brad Shaw is just going to make him better than he is. Mathematically that part can't be tracked maybe year by year improvement. Brad Shaw experience and back ground in producing good Defensive teams is undeniable as pointed out by others. That is not just going to rub off on Poolman but the whole group. As the group gets better Poolman will improve even more. It is a team sport after all

Great read for those that don't understand advance stats clearly. Most on this forum should give it a read

Yup advance stats clearly show he is a defensive defenseman. It is just to bad that Tanav in his prime will never play with someone as bad as Morrissey to show us a direct comparable. So the best we can get is for Poolman to plan with someone Tanev did (Hughes) or someone similar to who Tanev did (OEL=Edler) play with. Therefore, as I see it if Poolman plays better with one of Hughes or OEL as Tanev did with Hughes or Edler we have a direct comparable. Hence my prediction can be mathematically proven either true or false.

We could go on forever. Instead I'm just going to say check the title it is a prediction may come true may not. Or am I wrong did I call it a fact give me a second I will check........... Nope prediction is what I wrote.

I am mostly being a Homer on this one. His trade thread was getting brutal I wanted to show him some true Canadian Canuck love

No one ever called Schmidt a number #1. He is and always has been top 4 d-man. Are you serious going to judge him on his play last season on this team. What Schmidt isn't is a team player like Vegas fans where saying otherwise he wouldn't have given up on his Canuck team mates. Thankfully, JB got rid of the Cancer.

Yes take the word of people who just lose him. Have you seen his advance stats or more importantly without playing with his terrible jet d-partner. There is a reason a coach put him with Morrissey. Morrissey can't play defense.

So agree both sides being rude on this one. We are all Canucks here and it is a 2.5 mill cap hit. Even if he where a #6 d-man he would only be slightly overpaid. More upside than downside with this guy. I feel it is just the strong emotional feeling coming from how people feel about Benning. This guy takes no spot from anyone else as currently their is no one in the system that plays his style on the right side in rookie terms.

Total agree Even today if Eriksson was 30 and a ufa and put up those numbers teams would want him for 6×6

I like most moves that Benning has made. I think the Holtby one was the worse one. Even the Eriksson one made sense at the time of his signing

There are literally treads and treads of people making fun of me for calling Demko a number 1. I said start him in the first game people laughed. I said sign a cheaper back up people laughed. Most people liked the Holtby signing I said it lost us one of Tanev or Toffoli.