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EP is the far better goal scorer of the 2 and I would argue that has more weight than some of the other stats

the numbers don't agree with you they are comparable to both regular season and playoffs and they are both their teams 1st line centers how do they not compare

it is then best for the Canucks to sign Hughes to no more than 4 years and 3 for Petey

I think you have what I am saying wrong, Barzal is better than Petey. I agree with you there. Petey is comparable to Barzal at the time Barzal signed his deal last season. As I said above I believe most would agree that Barzal is now underpaid that doesn't mean that Petey isn't worth the same contract that Barzal signed last off season. You cant compare Barzal today with Petey today. You have to compare Petey today at the time Barzal signed his contract so Barzal last off season. I that manner they are comparable

I'm ok with that

I am saying he isn't a center More goals than assists mean he shots more than he passes sounds like a winger to me

My pick is Cole Sillinger or Chaz Lucius we have a chance at both of them and they both have late birthdays both in May which means they played most of their draft years as 17 year olds.

so agree don't like that at all I saw that and said why hasn't anyone put him on wing

Plus I would point out most would probably argue Barzel is now underpaid

Petey and Barzel are on par with one another easily Based on points and what they did in the playoffs when they made it

Barzel wasn't payed for what he did in this Playoffs but what he did in the first 3 years. He is currently playing his 1st year of his deal this year. So this year doesn't count. You have to think of it in those terms. Forget about what Barzel did this year all together

I have been searching for a Hughes comparable but am having a hard time with it. I explained above why he isn't comparable to Chabot. I look at other guys but they didn't post the same number like Hughes. I looked at Sergachev he is 3 @ 4.8 but only had 1 season comparable to Hughes his first and than declined. He is not TBL #1 dman and his numbers declined after his first season. The closes comparable Hughes has is Makar and he is RFA this season so no number to compare yet. Furthermore, Maker has a better Defensive game and therefore, garner more as a RFA. Maker also has negotiation rights unlike Hughes. Can anyone find me a comparable for Hughes please. I looked at McAvoy but Hughes has far better numbers. McAvory got 3 years at 4.9mill My conclusion is if Maker gets a Chabot like deal 8@ 8mill and guys like McAvory and Sergachev get 3@ 4.8-4.9 mill. I could see Hughes at 3 year and 6-6.5mill or 4-5 years 6.5-7mill

The camparables don't argue your point. JP Barry just said this on the chek show Donny and Dhali. read above post of mine for explanation as to why Hughes is a better candidate for a long term deal rather than EP

How about 8 years where the cap hit is 7 mill per season. Next year his actual salary could be 4-5 mill and each year it rises till it averages 7 mill so the last year or two of an 8 year contract his actual salary is like 9 mill Plus read my post just above for a little more clarity why his contract could be structured like this

It comes down to comparables and Hughes Comparables have longer term JP Barry said this. A longer term deal for Hughes would bring his cap Hit lower. He has no negotiating rights so he could say sign me 1 year at 4 mill and then want big dollars next season. But if the Canucks have that 4 mill in a longer term deal that brings his cap value down. I expect somewhere like a 4-6 year deal for Hughes where he makes 4-5 mill next season and the last year he gets 8-9mill with the mid years that average his contract Cap hit between 6-7 mill. Ott screwed the market when they signed Chabot at 8mill for 8 years but Hughes doesn't have the same Negotiating rights as Chabot did so I see him coming in less Hughes is also younger than when Chabot signed. Honestly because he is younger I would argue his best bet is to sign a 3 year contract 5 mill this year 6 next year and 7 for the last for a cap hit of 6.5 mill and than go for the 8 year big dollar contract like 9-11 mill per season one. For EP his contract will look more like 3 @ something all three years that's what most of his comparables look like. Keeping that Number between 6.5-7mill will be best for the team IMO. But I do have a feeling it could be 3 @ 7mill like Barzel. But I hope it is more like Points 3 @ 6.75mill

IF he is hiding something from his lawyer. We will never know. Character has nothing to do with it. If she is lying his character is not in question If he did it character is the last thing that is question if he did it he is guilty. The truth is we will never know what happen. All the prove will show is which story is more likely to have occurred and any prove i.e. messages between them will most likely show implied intent and in the best case for JV prior consent. These things would go to show that JVs story is more likely to have occurred.

simple I wasn't comparing re-builds I was comparing types of players to me the re-build re-tool doesn't mater what words one uses. It is the type of players that one acquires that matters more. Does the player care about winning or making money. Is the offseason about improving ones game or having fun getting drunk on the lake in their boat. I remember when Boeser came into the league he was shot was one of the best the next year he struggled to score and then this season the story's came out that he worked on his shot all season long. Horvat improves year after year. Miller wears his heart on his shoulder like Kes and Bur did for this team before Hughes and Pettersson both come of as guys who want to improve and get better each year and you can say the same about Demko. All this said does it matter how you got the players or how long it took? I think not.

It is not that common as you think. Most wealth people understand that getting blood from a stone is impossible so is getting money from some poor 21 year old unless her family comes from money and even than it's not her money. This is a play by her lawyer telling her side that this is going to court and when it does she won't be able to stay anonymous. Which is interesting in itself. Why does she what to remain anonymous does she come from wealth does she have her own reputation to protect. A poor person usually doesn't care especially if it did happen. But some one who has a reputation that's is trying to black mail a hockey player would want to stay anonymous. If I were JV lawyer I would want to get her out in the open. She had one shot to fire it might have wounded JV but it didn't kill him Now it is JVs turn to fire a shot in this game I think JV has more than one to fire. His response and denial was one. Second any messages between them that may provided implied intent or even prior consent. Third her wanting to stay anonymous. She was 18 at the time that is not a minor in this province if it goes to court her name will be revealed.

You have to ask what does she have that JV doesn't know. Unless there was a secret camera on her which also begs the question what was the point of a secret camera for. JV knows everything she knows and if he is smart his lawyer does to. As long as he doesn't say out right to his lawyer he did it his lawyer will be able to defend the case as if JV is telling him the truth

That's such bs both are not telling the truth. Either she is lying or He raped her. She remove consent and that is rape or there was consent and now she is lying to get money. Where is the Grey area? The only area up for debate is which one is telling the truth. As only the 2 of them know all the courts will care about is which one is likely telling the truth. Likely isn't a prove enough to go for criminal charges so the crown will wait to see how the civil case plays out and then will come out with a statement that says something along the lines of there is not enough evidence to seek charges at this time, the file will stay open if there is new claims or evidence submitted. But what it really means is the police investigation has hit a dead end and the crown doesn't believe they can get a conviction

He wont settle their is something in his respondent that tells me this. Virtanen is asking for the lawsuit to be dismissed and for the court to award him special costs, due to the nature of the allegations. That special cost tells me he is not going to settle and that he and his lawyer are telling the other side that if they pursue with this claim they will seek defamation costs

Lie detector test are a joke and I would advise even if you where not guilty never to take one. You make one mistake and it shows a lie where you are telling the truth and the police will focus on you like you did it

Accused not found guilty She could out right be lying, and the accusations are completely false, It could end his career and he could claim the Canucks organization helped to do so by giving him a leave of absence which help eroded his reputation. So you might want a break but he would have a strong claim for a lawsuit against the Canucks organization. If a player in his position loses out on 10 million or more in future pay a court will consider that as a viable claim. Even a regular joe losing out on a million in future compensation would have a viable claim. Further more, he has a public image, the leave of absence was made public in a statement to the public eye. The Canucks had no reason other to protect their image to release that statement. It was not for the benefit of Virtanen. They could have just as easily given him a a leave of absence and not released a statement to the public eye. They could have asked Virtanen's group to release the statement. They could have released a statement together, saying that it was in the best interest of both sides and said they stand by the rule of law and that both sides have the right to be heard. Instead they released a damaging statement toward JV saying they take sexual misconduct claims seriously. They could have said that but also said something on the lines that the law must prevail and that JV is innocent until proven guilty.

He hasn't broken a law

I have said it before this is not about JV for me it is about the law. I couldn't care less about JV