HOFsedins

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  1. Oh my! DROOLS. You are absolutely correct. That line could be the best in the NHL.
  2. Juolevi or 2018 pick

    I think you just contradicted yourself there. Isnt OJ a 5th overall pick? I do not think it is fair to say which is worth more, but moreso of just a prediction. Unless it is a clearcut NHL ready player, I think it is safe to say OJ is ahead in achievements and development among the D in this draft other than Mr Dahlin.
  3. I beg to differ. When Bo was injured, what happened to Boeser's production? Boeser is far from a one dimensional player. He is a complete player and will only get better after 1 full season. I love Bo but if I really had to choose between 1 it would be Boeser in a heartbeat.
  4. Yeah I agree. Ive been liste ing to 650 since it launched. But I have to say I don't like Walker very much. He is annoying and says dumb things.
  5. A Question of Value

    I apologize if it was taken as mockery. Not what I was trying to imply. I simply lol'd because I was just explaining how you expect to find a gem when you can't draft right with your first round pick. The OP was "great teams are built through later deep in the draft NOT in the early rounds". But you also have to understand that great teams have star players from the 1st round. A Keith, Benn, Zetterberg or Datsyuk does not come very often which is why you cannot mess up your first pick although I understand that does happen. Edmonton could have made trades or find depth through free agency. They were not bad due to poor drafting. They got Hall, Nuge, Eberle etc. They were bad due to GMing. So not sure why you brought them up. As for Benning, I never mentioned anything about him but since you brought him up, IMO I believe he has done a great job drafting. Some misses but nonetheless a good job.
  6. A Question of Value

    Lol? I would have to disagree with that. Yes you have to find gems later on in the draft but how can you expect to find them if you can't even hit with your first round pick..
  7. Acording to Bob McKenzie ( Picks 5 through 8)

    I hope he is still on the board. Skating is defintely something you can improve on. Great example is Bo but for a defenceman, imo I think it should be your core strength. Tbh Im a little worried with Bouchard.
  8. Acording to Bob McKenzie ( Picks 5 through 8)

    I dont think our All Star Game MVP is a prospect anymore... I didnt think I needed to mention Boeser. And the reason I only mentioned Petterson was because he hasnt played a NHL game yet so I said he was the only elite prospect. Dont get me wrong I agree that our defence has a serious problem, but we cant overlook our crop of forwards as well.
  9. Acording to Bob McKenzie ( Picks 5 through 8)

    IMHO I would take Wahlstrom with our pick. He will be the BPA at 7. I dont understand why people think we are fine with our group of forwards. Outside of Petterson, he is our only elite prospect that is a forward. Last time I checked, we were 26th in goals for last year. I think we can still find a quality gem of a D later in the draft. I would never use a pick on a organizational need unless the talent was on the same level but different positions.
  10. Im lost for words... feeling empty. I think it will take me a while before I get used to this. Thank you Henrik and Daniel for the past 18 years. Thank you for showering our city with love and bringing your one of a kind talents to our franchise. Im glad we all got to see you both grow into Hall of Fame players but even more happy to see you both grow into fine individuals. We will never forget anything you guys brought to this franchise from the way you both always strived for nothing but greatness to your dedication and love for our community. You both were always the heart and soul of the team. I wish you both nothing but the best and I know that was what you both always wanted for everyone. Sincerely, HOFsedins
  11. They have always been the same players. They never hit but rely on their hockey IQ. And for the -19 and -20, I think it is fair to say the defence and their minutes have a big part in that. Other than our top line of Boeser, Horvat and Baer, if anyone else on the team had those minutes they would be at that ratio or worse without those points.
  12. Ummm there is a reason why I did not include our 1st line. In case you havent noticed, the Sedins are our secondary scoring. Is that not what we are debating about? Where is the secondary scoring or second line? Please dont shy away from your claim. You said their point production can be replaced. So who are they? I think Petterson is a stud but he hasnt even played 1 NHL game. To expect him to fill in that void would be a burden. There is a fine line between getting a opportunity and deserving one. Again, pls name me players that can step up or at least look like they can or where you think they will magically appear from? All Im saying is we need to resign them if they want to play until our club is ready without them. Cause we sure still need them.
  13. My response to your post was based on you saying this franchise owes them nothing. I can speak for a vast majority of fans in saying that they would not agree with that. In your response to players that can fill in their point production. Can you pls name me players on this team that can produce like they can? Goldobin? Virtanen? Sutter? Granlund? Eriksson? If that is all you can come up with then you are out of luck my friend. Or were you thinking of overpaying someone in free agency? How did Eriksson work out? How about Gagner? All I am saying is to show the loyalty of these future Hall of Famers which can clearly still play and is attached to this city. We would be having a different conversation if that wasn't the case. Its not that easy to just kick them to the curb when they clearly have more to offer.
  14. Its what they have done for this city. Sure they got paid on their last contract, do you think they took a discount? Im sure the majority of people would say so. And of all that money they earned they donated a big majority to the community. The extra free time they have, they have poured their hearts into not just this franchise but this city as well. IMHO they deserve anything this franchise is willing to offer. Not to mention they both do have 50 pts this year which obviously means they can still play. Until you can find players to replace them, they still deserve to be on this team.
  15. DALLAS — If heaven can wait, so can the Sedins’ retirement. Their Vancouver team may not win much anymore but Henrik and Daniel can still play. When they completed an 11-pass sequence that led to Friday’s only Canucks’ goal, Daniel Sedin recorded his 50th point of this NHL season. You know how many forwards he joined with 50 points? There were 82 others. That kind of production gets you on the second line of just about any team in the league, and the first line on many. That kind of production means you’re still really good at hockey. It was the same number as Matt Duchene, Evander Kane and Mike Hoffman. Whether these are the final games of the Sedins’ career or not, we promise you this: There is a lot of quality hockey left in those two brothers. It doesn’t always seem that way mostly because they are compared to what they once were. And what they once were was magnificent. People would have an entirely different perspective if the Sedins spent their best years averaging 50 points, like, say, Patric Hornqvist of the Pittsburgh Penguins. But, apparently, the Sedins are washed up while the 31-year-old Hornqvist and his 40 points just signed a five-year extension averaging $5.3 million a season. Perception is funny, huh? What happens next in their careers remains guesswork, but they don’t need to make their decision before the end of this season. Some are suggesting they owe it to fans and teammates to let everyone know, allowing for an end-of-year blowout sendoff. Some think the team should, or will, meet with the Sedins before the season ends, looking for closure to set that type of thing up — and sell a few more tickets, too. But what everyone should be doing is the opposite. As a city, we collectively owe them patience. They owe Vancouver nothing. They’ve given everything they have to the team and the community. Give them something back. Give them time and room to breathe. If they choose to retire in the off-season, they can come back next year and get ovations for days. It would be more satisfying then anyway to recall their careers than to do it now during all this losing and bleakness. Believe me, everyone will have their chance to say goodbye and it will be memorable and amazing. Plus, this is probably the worst point in the season for them to be making decisions. It’s a point Vancouver president Trevor Linden, who has been through it himself, raised before he had any idea how bad the team would become and how raw the emotions could be for two proud players experiencing unprecedented losing. In January, Linden said this on TSN 1040 AM: “They’ve earned the right to make the decision when they feel it’s right, and that’s likely a few weeks after the season when they’ve had some time to digest everything.” It’s interesting to go back to the lead up to the trade deadline and read comments from Linden and Vancouver GM Jim Benning about the Sedins. Both were complimentary of the Sedins and made clear they were open to them coming back. But no one with the Canucks has said: “We really want them back.” In fact, Thomas Vanek and his possible return generated more enthusiasm, even getting a nod from the Canucks that they would be willing to offer him a no-trade clause to return. Maybe it’s just an oversight, an assumption we all know how the organization feels about them. But it’s important to keep this in mind: It is the Canucks’ decision, too. They may conclude they need to move on to take a next step in their rebuild. This would manifest itself if the management were to tell the Sedins they expect them to have significantly reduced roles next season. The Sedins are already down to 12 even-strength minutes a game. If you tell them that’s going to be cut and they’d be off the power play, everyone knows they’re not going to sign off on that to return. It would be squeezing them out. Generally, 50 point players don’t leave the NHL behind. Linden held on for his final three seasons, averaging less than 12 minutes a night and fewer than 18 points. There’s no easy answer for what is best for the team. It’s complex and layered and it depends on the readiness of players who aren’t even on the team yet, like Elias Pettersson and Jonathan Dahlen. If the Sedins moving on makes room for those two playing big important minutes then, sure, it has merit. But if this is about more ice time and roster spots for players like Brendan Leipsic, Tyler Motte and Darren Archibald then it’s absurd. The Sedins are at the perfect point in their careers to benefit a rebuilding team. No one wants to see the Canucks comprised of players who are all 23 and younger. It makes sense to have veterans on short-term, cost-effective deals to make sure that doesn’t happen. The Sedins are set up to be used just like that, on a one-year deal. The Canucks have tried to bring in other free agents to play that role. The difference being the Sedins are actually really good. If they were to come back, it opens the door to shaking up some of the other veterans, trading players like, say, Sven Baertschi while exploring ways to move on from Loui Eriksson and even Brandon Sutter. Do the Canucks have the stomach to move on from some of the key players they brought in? They should. I thought this was a great article and agree with everything Botch has said about the Sedins. Going to be a sad day when they decide to hang up the skates.