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  1. Quinn Hughes | D

    Quick question - for those that have watched both Hughes and Dahlin closely, what is it that makes Dahlin a generational talent and not Hughes? What does Dahlin do that much better? Is it just the physical aspect? And maybe the shot? It's universally agreed upon that Hughes is the better skater, so clearly Dahlin has to be far superior in many other aspects to be rated head and shoulders above Hughes (and Boqvist for that matter). I'd be interested in any insights.
  2. 94 & 2011 SCF Run

    As other posters have said, the 94 team seemed to have more heart and character. Linden, McLean, Momesso, Murzyn, Gelinas, Ronning, Babych, Courtnall...the list goes on. They just seemed tougher (mentally and physically) and less likely to fold. I hope we can recapture that dynamic with this new core. The 2011 team was certainly by far more talented, but the 94 team seemed to have the intangibles that playoff hockey often demands. Each won their games in their own way, however, and each could have very well come out the winner had the chips fallen slightly more in their favour. I was heartbroken both times though, as I'm sure everyone else here was.
  3. The point is the GMs should never have had to make those difficult choices. The same rules that applied to Minnesota, Nashville, Columbus, etc., should have applied to Vegas. They paid a higher expansion fee for more favorable draft rules. Their fans get to reap the benefits while other fan bases that have had to weather years of heartbreak or flat out ineptness have to watch their teams continue to lose at the expense of the team that picked players off their rosters. Vegas essentially paid more money for the right to have a better team. That is exactly the type of advantage that the NHL has tried to get away from with the salary cap. It's a complete joke that an expansion team is able to make the Cup finals in its first year. There's no other way to argue it.
  4. Anyone still want to argue that the expansion draft rules were fair?
  5. Jake Virtanen | #18 | RW

    He was indeed infuriating to watch, but the reason I am so encouraged is how much progress he made in the last few weeks of the season. During that period, at least for me, he suddenly became less and less frustrating to watch. I totally agree that his shot accuracy needs major work; he did mention in his year-end interview that he would work on his hands a lot in the summer. So at least he knows what he needs to work on. To another point - I feel he should be afforded more time than other players to develop. The reason is because he needs to learn more aspects of the game than a player whose responsibility it is just to score. As you mentioned, he also has to learn how/when to be physical. I suspect it takes longer to put together a power forward game...but if he is able to do it, our patience will be rewarded in spades...finger crossed!
  6. Draft Lottery

    Uh...the odds are not in favor of us getting 9th. We are more than 3 times more likely to get 1st than 9th...
  7. Jake Virtanen | #18 | RW

    I don't see how anyone sees Jake as anything other than a top 6 forward next year (especially on this team) and the years to come. The combination of speed and size is absolutely elite. He creates so much space and changes the momentum of the game even if he doesn't score on as many chances as we would like. If he has a good summer working on his finish, the potential is enormous. Just watching these playoffs should give you a sense that he is the type of player that would thrive in the playoffs. With the way that Nylander has disappeared, I'm sure people are less upset about the Canucks passing on him. Virtanen can contribute to a tight-checking physical series in ways that players like Ehlers and Nylander simply cannot. But he can also break the game open with his speed. These two aspects are what make Jake unique and such a valuable asset, especially come playoff time (whenever it is that we make it).
  8. I suppose it depends on what you think an expansion team is supposed to be. To me, an expansion team is one that is to be built over time, not made up of bona fide roster players taken off of other teams, some of which were years into their build process. Look at Minnesota, Columbus, Anaheim, San Jose...they all started out horrible but are now all legitimate playoff teams with full buildings. Seems to me the NHL had doubts about whether the Vegas fans would support a poor team and allow hockey to take hold in their city, so changed the rules to give Vegas a better chance of being successful right away. Vegas owners might have paid a steeper price, but it was unfair to the fans of other markets. That's what I meant by unfair. As Canucks fans, I'm sure we don't care so much that Aquilini got a big chunk of cash from the Vegas owners. We care about the quality of our team.
  9. What is unfair is Vegas got more favourable rules at the expansion draft than previous expansion teams.
  10. What do you mean "the way it's always been"? The expansion draft rules were much more favourable for Vegas than they were for Atlanta and Nashville, for example. Go look up the rules. In particular, Vegas basically got their pick of a bunch of top 4 dmen. That pales in comparison to what previous expansion teams got to choose from. Owners might be happy with the payout, but fans who are invested in their teams sure aren't.
  11. I like Vegas's team and all, but the fact that in their first year they are smoking teams from who they got their players is quite unfair. The expansion rules have to change in order to be fair to the existing teams and not skewed towards the goal of engaging the new market with a successful team.
  12. You honestly don't sound like someone who makes a lot of sense or thinks things through.
  13. We can agree to disagree on the Sedins, but you think injured players are taking time off when they aren't playing games? They are actually rehabbing, which is not time off. Are you saying players who get injured because they play physical games and/or block shots aren't earning the money they're paid?
  14. Actually the point has been made many times that part of the money they are being paid now is to make up for their previous contract. And yes, they've made large sums of donations to the community. But that does not mean the franchise owes them anything. The fans have supported them by buying tickets to watch them play thereby allowing them to make millions of dollars playing hockey in one of the most livable cities in the NHL (and the world). The fans got their money's worth. The Sedin's owe them nothing, and vice versa. And exactly - it is absurd to say they owe the Canucks, just as it is absurd to say the Canucks owe them something. I would argue that the Sedin's should be grateful to the Canucks for drafting them and allowing them to play their whole careers together. They should also be grateful for the trust and patience that the veteran leadership and coaching staff showed them early in their careers. The Canucks should also be grateful for the Sedins' class, dedication, skill, and the success they brought to this franchise. But no one owes anyone anything. Everyone gets what they sign up for, yes? I wouldn't say there are any fans here that don't respect what they have done for the city and the franchise. Anyone who makes this claim (like the "Stop the Sedin hate" thread) is simply making a straw man argument. Those of us advocating retirement just want to the see the team move on to younger, faster, and more physical players with more pushback. We realize that, while they've had a great career, the game has changed and it is no longer their time to shine anymore.