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1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said:
"Make a deal" isn't that easy, we have to give something up and to be honest we only have 2 defencemen we can expose right now - Myers and Schmidt, so it would probably be one of them, so we end up losing a great top 4 defenceman anyway.
Also if I were Seattle, no deal is worth taking Demko, he's a future star goalie, a 1st round pick isn't even worth that in today's NHL.
JB had it tough but if he did anything differently this team's future would have been compromised big time.
I disagree Demco could have been traded at the trade dead line if needed for a good haul also Myers is replaceable and frankly Schmidt is no Bobby Orr so options were there How do you figure by doing what he did, the team isn't compromised now?
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1 minute ago, canuktravella said:
benning picked younger goalie in demko who committed robbery in playoffs and was nhl player of week last week markey would be picked by expansion draft so ya be ning made right choice
You dont know that and Benning could have kept them both ether traded Demco at the trade dead line or made a deal with Seattle . Ether way at least we could have gotten some assets for Demco In a trade.
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People were all drinking JB's cool aid there was lots of options. by scratching Virtanen we are building up a lot of value . We shall see after the next ten games.
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14 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:
Who are you going to trade Eriksson's 6M to in a covid flat cap to Mr. GM? If you can do it you'd become the mayor.
Sign Marky and we let Demko get snatched by Seattle?
Sign Tanev to 4.5M x 5 years and he's injured for half of it?
Sign Toffoli for 4M x 4 years and how do we get that 4M in cap space? Delete Eriksson again? Try and trade a useless Roussel and Virtanen to who?
I'm sure JB was on the phone to every team but no one wants to pick up bottom 6 expensive players, especially with the flat cap.
No make a deal with Seattle.
The difference between keeping Toffoli Tanev and Markstrom and not was 2 million, no Holtby no Schmidt and no Virtanen. Hmmm I wonder if we would have been better off.
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4 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said:
There seems to be a lot of navel-gazing, hand-wringing & worrying going on 'round here. Why worry about things beyond one's control ?
Pro sport is entertainment. If it's not enjoyable, what's the point?
Find some alternative hobbies/activities & passions. Then every day is filled/interesting, until one day, the team is rolling again. Then you have to make some available time, to enjoy cheering on a winner.
No its 51 years with out a cup and counting. Fan pressure can make owners do amazing things.
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1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said:
Term is everything. The ED affects everything. Schmidt is younger and to be fair, was better all around than Tanev (before this season...) and his contract will age better than an older, fragile Tanev. Holtby's Seattle-exposed whereas Marky wanted protection and has an Erikkson-like contract which won't age well.
Probs to JB for making the unpopular moves and letting players in their prime leave for the better of this team's future. He learned from the Eriksson mistake.
Toffoli could have been saved, as easy as moving Pearson or Roussel out, but nobody is biting on trades right now because of the flat cap and ED so don't fault him on "moving money out" because it's the worst time to do it. I understand why he wanted to try one more year with JV and Gaudette but now he's seen that those experiments aren't working.
If the off season happened again, he'd do it all again, doesn't really have a better option.
Realy wow Markstrom was our MVP or did you forget and will play till he is 37 lots of goalies play well until then, Fleury from Vegas is one. Tanev is Calgary's second best D man and could be moved at any time in the future. Toffoli could easily been kept but Jim's crystal ball was better? Come on face it JB had many options but took the chicken route. I'm not drinking Jim's cool aid . Eriksson could be move but Jim doesn't have the Balls to do it.
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7 minutes ago, lmm said:
ya and Edmunson cost Montreal a 5th and costs $3.5 M
Once again Benning is asleep at the wheel.
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6 hours ago, CanadianRugby said:
Nope.
Proof that Benning doesn't know how to build his D core. again Tanev is Calgary's second best D man. Toffoli and Tanev could made a big difference . I see no proof we got better on D.
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The difference between keeping Markstrom , Tanev and Toffoli ( $14.8 mil ) and Signing Schmidt , Holtby and Virtanen ( $12. 8 ) around 2 million. so cape space could have been found. Eriksson and Roussel in the Minors. Cap works they could have made room . Next year they then could have made moves to make room for the kids.
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Just now, Honky Cat said:
You're misinformed, the Canucks were going to lose a goaltending asset either way
The cap was not the reason Markstrom left.
Not Misinformed Markstrom could have played and we could have traded Demco or made a deal with Seattle ether way we could have kept him.
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1 hour ago, Squamfan said:
What a crock of crap
Benning could have kept Toffoli and Tanev and Markstrom but picked a safer route .
There was enough room cap wise do all this.
Toffoli , Tanev and Markstrom = $14,750,000 cap
Do not sign Holtby , Schmidt, Virtanen , $12,800,000 . Buy out Bartschi move Eriksson and Roussel to the minors. savings of over 3 Mill.
So dont tell me he could not aford it .
Jim's problem is he cant think out side of the box . Signing our young stars could be solved next year. Hughes is showing how much he misses Tanev . Talking to Calgary fans they are saying Tanev is there second best D man. And Markstrom is God.
Jim may be a good scout but is the poorest GM at managing his assets.
These moves he made and didnt will get him fired this year.
This is the worst team I have seen in a long time. And its going to get real ugly.
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Make the trade Sam Bennett is a hell of a lot tougher than Virtanen and shows up in the playoffs
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15 hours ago, Convincing John said:
Don’t be locking down Jay fricken Beagle. Jay fricken Beagle equivalents are available at any point in time during the season and the next few decades via trade for a super late pick or a cheap and short UFA contract. Cap space should be used as a weapon to make dumber GMs pay for their sins. Take away RFA’s they can’t fit but you can.
Jay Beagle is worth every penny now Roussel on the other hand not so much.
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18 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said:
I'm pretty close to this point as well. I've been patient with Virtanen the last 2 years or so hoping he would begin to take some steps, even if its at a slower pace than most would like. But I'm not going to sit and wait for him forever. At this point, I would trade him in the offseason. Chances are high that getting dealt could be his wake up call and he could flourish on another team, but I'm growing more and more convinced its not going to happen in Vancouver.
I don't think Virtanen is a liability or anything, but I don't think he'll reach the level we need him to be at in order to be a strong, consistent contributor for us. We can find someone else to play on the 3rd line, its not an irreplaceable hole. There's nothing that Virtanen does that MacEwan can't with more intensity, compete and consistency. I'd move him in the offseason at this point.Under Green LOL Green has made him what he is.
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38 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said:
missed out on Timmins heartbreakingly short in the 2017 draft:
Colorado picked him at #32 overall
Canucks picked Kole Lind at #33 overall
D Corps of the AV's is insane with Makar, Girard, Byram, Timmins.....
Vans D could have been better but you have to draft D to get D meaning in early rounds . Hague was available at #34 overall.
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4 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:
While I've been extremely critical of Jake the last couple of years, and while he still does play like a cream puff more often than not, I do see some improvement in his game compared to years past, but lack of consistency of effort has always been his major flaw. Some press box time might be a good wake-up call for him. Unfortunately, you can't teach someone how to play big, and effort is also not a trained skill - these are mental traits that require the player to get it (or not), or want it badly enough (or not).
Adam Gaudette is ok for what he brings, he just needs to be stronger on the face-off, tougher and/or more successful digging the pucks out of scrumbs, and harder on the back-check (though he has been doing that relatively well for the limited deployment he's been getting) - but not for a lack of effort. Those issues will resolve with experience, as those are skills that can be trained.
I'm going to throw in this for consideration as well. The SN broadcast made an odd comment in the 3rd period praising Chatfield's play ("wasn't that noticeable... which is a good thing" was the comment that Jim Hughson made, I think, to which John agreed). I say it's odd because Jim and John are usually good at identifying talent and calling things as they are (albeit with a bit of a homer slant to John Garrett's comments). Chatfield's play was not unnoticeable - he definitely still showed his newbie jitters, bobbling and coughing up pucks, unable to keep the zone on relatively harmless plays, and letting the opposing forwards easily find ways around him. Juolevi definitely has a leg up on Chatfield in that regard - the Finn's only issue that I've seen is that he sometimes makes risky passes that result in (costly) turnovers. But with how thin we are on the blueline, I'm ok with Chatfield's deployment just to get him experience, because like Gaudette's issues, Chatfield's are items that can be resolved with experience.
tl;dr - give Jake a shorter leash (or a wake-up call), because in order for him to play effectively, he's got to play "bigger" and want it badly enough, and he may need a reminder that playing in the NHL is a privilege being offered to him, not his right; Gaudette and Chatfield are still serviceable for where they're deployed, but definitely need some seasoning in order to iron out their on-ice play issues.
Jake is getting just over 2.5 mil. so there is no hunger in him to do better it seems he got a contract to set himself up so why try? Its pride that sets one up to be better and it seems he could care less . Having said that I think being a whipping boy for the coach doesn't help any so his development is on Green and Green has failed.
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He could have been playing this year once again Jim dropped the ball.
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1 minute ago, BENN said:
it`s funny how Benning goes from hero to zero and other way in a very short time.
He was never a Hero and the other on his ability to build a cup contender well we shall see.
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12 minutes ago, Chris12345 said:
Does Aqua approve of your plan? I sense there is more to hockey ops than mathematics.
Yah I bet he would have looking at the mess we are in now.
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On 1/22/2021 at 10:43 PM, goog16 said:
6 games into the season and people are already turning on them...this only proves that we do have some of the worst fans in the NHL!!!
This proves that the fans have been patient enough time to get going.
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Yes the no Plan Plan , JB cant move forward because of the dead cap , he cant help him self. He sees something shinny and has got to have it but he is a bargin shopper who ends up spending too much and not having quality in return. The owner should have told him no playoffs this year no job next year.
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1 hour ago, appleboy said:
I think that he has shown improvement when it comes to contracts and he seems to be realizing the importance of managing the cap. He held back from over paying Marky and Tanev. Both of these players were important to the team last year and are currently missed but they are also older players who landed large salaries with more term then what is wise to give them. Now that would be fine if we were ready to challenge for the cup this year. But we aren't. Those would have been contracts that would just handcuff the team in a few years. We have enough of those right now.
I disagree how would those contracts effect us going forward .Allot of goalies play well into there 30 s same as defensemen. Markstrom was our MVP now he is going to be Calgary's. Toffoli could be traded anytime so there is that . I think you are wrong it would have been better for development of our core to keep them. Ask any Calgary fan out Markstrom and Tanev and they are laughing at us. Toffoli will be Habs highest point man . again ask them what they think of Toffoli !
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Lot of Pun-dents say JB could not aford to keep Markstrom ,Tanev, Toffoli
Lets do the math .
Kept / Toffoli (4,250,000) x 4, Tanev ( 4,500,000) x 4, Markstrom (6,000,000) x 6
OUT / Virtanen (traded for a 2nd round pic ) and dont sign Holtby, Schmidt, Hamonic
Sign / C Folin , ($850,000) x 1 ,J Hawryluk $800,000 x 1
Miller Pettersson Boeser
Pearson Horvat Toffoli
Hoglander Gaudette MacEwen
Motte Beagle Sutter
Hughes Tanev
Edler Myers
Juolevi Chatfield
Markstrom / Demko
Press Box Folin, Bailey
Taxi / Brisebois , Rathbone , Benn , DiPietro , Michaelis , Roussel
LTIR Ferland , Hawryluk
Utica Bartschi ,Eriksson
Total Cap used $68,746,667. Cap Buried $10,066,666 Buyouts and penalties $4,068,545, LTIR $4,300,000
Cap Remaining . $1,218,122
So cap fits now you say well what about signing Hughes and Pettersson next year you need about $15 mil next year
Well thats next year,
Trade Demko for picks so you dont lose him in the expansion draft for nothing
Pearson, Edler, Benn, Sutter, Hawryluk, Bartschi all coming off the books. So JB could have kept all three plus signed some depth D. also he then could have traded some assets for draft picks. Instead of giving up draft picks
Resign Edler for a reasonable contract. Bring in a cheap back up goalie
So yah bad decisions by JB thats why he is the worst GM
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3 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:
In a year where Pettersson, Hughes, Gaudette, Juolevi and Demko all need new contracts
Well at the pace they are on Benning will be giving out cheap contracts Hughes is inline for a historic Plus / Minus and Pettersson looks to be on pace for 20 points, Demko LOL may never win a game. so yah good year for contracts.
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