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  1. Again, your post doesn’t address my points and simply makes an ad hominem attack. This is the sign of someone who’s well aware they’ve lost a debate. Just because one cannot handle that the points made to counter their argument are valid, does not make one making the points condescending, what it makes them is right and the other side incapable of accepting being wrong, and your response proves it. A verbal attack followed by “I’m right because I say so”. Please enjoy hockeyforums, it’s more your style.
  2. They should have done a raptors clippers preseason game - that would have been smart marketing and a way to maximize revenue
  3. All I see there is a big dman who is mobile, can walk the line, has a snipe of of a wrist shot that can get through, sees the ice incredibly well, almost bouncing passes off guys sticks into the net, and that knows when to come down low and take a risk. Certainty looks like a top 2 dman to me lol. 99.9% of the bashers on here will avoid dealing with what’s in that video and above. Thanks for the post, you made me even more excited to see this kid in our lineup.
  4. They can mutually terminate it. Which is what will happen if they send him to Utica, he will ask.
  5. They’ll move Sutter in feb for a late first if he can be bubble wrapped and stay healthy. Law of averages says he’s due to have a healthy good season. Erickson won’t report to Utica and will void his contract imho. My bet is his agent is already talking to teams and trying to set that up.
  6. He looks to be in good shape and is just enormous, I can’t wait till he’s back in March!
  7. Stecher is a Swiss Army knife RD. Benn is old and can play both sides, he’s here 2 years max. OJ Is a LD, Try can play both sides. Woo will see AHL time before NHL 1-2 years and be a depth guy initially. Troy will stick around and be at worst our next Biega but better. Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Benn Stecher In 2 years years, Edler and Benn will have aged out, Hughes Myers Juolevi Tanev (if resigned although I think he’ll be traded if Tryamkin is signed in march) Tryamkin Stecher Woo
  8. And potentially the season prior. If you recall he injured his back in training the year prior and it hurt his chances in camp. He’s had two untimely and unlucky injuries in two years - but our haters love ignoring that. apparently OJ should be good enough to make the NHL and dominate as a top 2 because of his draft position despite injuries . If you’re 5th overall you should be as good as doughty on one leg and a messed up back according to their logic. Lol
  9. Probabilities based on what? Not putting up points from his couch with a torn up knee? Ok smh
  10. As I stated above to Alf your response is typical of those who want to bash our prospects. http://forum.canucks.com/topic/377676-olli-juolevi-d/?do=findComment&comment=14982796 You say 6 years but you ignore actual facts behind his development, yet a few posts prior try to pretend you incorporate it into your thinking. 6 years are not really “6 years” when 2 of those years have been effectively lost to injury are they? And guess what? Who cares? If he’s a number 1 or 2 by 24 years old is that a big deal to you? Lol. But let’s also not forget you have to add in a year or two, or a year if you want to argue over it, for the strength he was known he needed to gain. So that’s what 3 years? You people think just because a player gets hurt in 2 of 3 years post draft he’s not lived up to his draft position. Even a MORON realizes evaluating an injured player on what he can be Doesn’t work since, drrr where are the data points? You and your cohort say oh I know he was hurt then go on to act like he wasn’t hurt and he’s played 240 games since being drafted and performed poorly - since that’s the only way one could make an assessment such as yours. Umm no, he’s been hurt, so how do you say he’s not living up to his potential? His potential doing what? Rehabbing? Is he not rehabbing fast enough? Ok sorry talk to the medical staff about that! AGAIN, Roman Josi took 5 years to become a top 4 NHL dman. Not even a top 2 (Weber was ahead of him). Al Arbour, who knows a hell of a lot more about hockey than you ever will, stated it takes about 200 games in the NHL to know what you have in a defenseman. But I guess you and your “circle of friends” from hockey forums know better than him from what? watching a kid rehab? Was he not scoring enough from the couch or press box when he couldn’t walk? Was he getting burned wide by guys on the ice while he was in the Utica press box eating popcorn watching? Did he not live up to being a top 5 pick because the Canucks chose not to call him up and play him with a torn knee ligament? Damn what a bad pick!! He should be able to be as good as Doughty on one leg! He must have no heart! The Canucks wanted him up on one leg but he passed right? Smh Move on, and when you learn about hockey come and chat. Until then I have better things to do than educate you. I find it ironic and humorous that EXACTLY how I explained how the trolls act on this site, you end up doing exactly that! Go figure! Lol
  11. Who said that? How long did Josi take to be a top pairing dman? 5-6 years right? By 200 games however we should be able to see what his ceiling is. Perhaps take reading comprehension from grade 6 again.
  12. Talk to me after 200 games in the NHL as to whether he was worth a 5th overall. That’s generally a good barometer. Enjoy Hockey Forums, it’s more up your alley
  13. I don’t hate other teams. I just think it’s early to say OJ was not worthy of 5th overall given 1. He was known to need time to gain strength 2. He looked to be developing fine then got a couple of unfortunate injuries. None of that suggests he wasn’t worth the 5th overall. Those complaining are basing their assessment on “speed to nhl” and ignoring 1 and 2 above yet saying they aren’t ignoring it. Their position is not logically consistent with facts or even their own statements
  14. It sure is. But it’s hard to get results when you’re injured isn’t it?
  15. Cool story. We disagree. Now what?
  16. It’s pretty easy to read between the lines when someone is so vocal about a player not living up to being 5th overall. Especially when said player hasn’t reached the nhl yet due to unfortunate injuries. But carry on.
  17. I think you need to read other people’s posts better, I think you need to learn how you speak to others, and finally learn that opinions of hockey players aren’t worth your anger. Have a nice life, there’s a reason I had you on block and now I remember
  18. I agree, he’s a great shooter but hasn’t shown much else, a one dimensional player. That one dimension is highly valued in the NHL and on our team for certain, but he’s no Brett Hull or Ovechkin, Stamkos, let alone even Laine (who has his own drawbacks). For him to be paid like an “elite” goal scorer he needs to be an elite multi dimensional player or an absolute certainty (aka Ovie light, which he is not). His skating is an issue and I certainly hope he tries to address this in the off-season, as Bo successfully did. It’s an improvable skill, and given last years injury he likely didn’t have the time or ability to do so. If you’re paying someone 7-8 mil per year they need to be a driver of play, not a highly talented support player. I don’t believe Boeser is a play driver, nor will he be given his skating. He really should not be getting more than Pastrnak ($6.6 cap hit) and I really dont think he should be getting more than Bo, as Bo is legitimately our MVP (Petey will be in a year). Our salary structure needs to be 1. Petey 2. Bo 3. Boeser. That’s reasonable and fair. Boeser should get a 4 year 5.4 mil prove it contract. If longer term, ok you account for salary escalation since Bo signed and Boeser becomes #2 at say 6.25 max - 7 year term.
  19. He’s been injured 2 seasons in a row, and missed a lot of games. Of course management is concerned with his development. He’s missed a lot of hockey
  20. What I don’t seem to understand is you somehow seem believe your “opinion” on what a player’s ceiling is, is somehow fact. I don’t propose that OJ “WILL” be Josi 2.0, but rather he has that potential. Roman Josi didn’t have Roman Josi potential when drafted did he? If so why was a number 1 dman taken in the second round? Ie see Shay Weber, Subban, Keith, many others. That’s the funny thing about drafting, you never really know until a while into their career what they will actually be! Also, my (or anyone else’s) opinion on a message board won’t put any pressure on the “little guy”, I’m sure he’s confident in himself and isn’t too worried about what pressure comes from fans on social media, so don’t worry yourself to sleep at night that some guy with numbers as his name will put so much pressure on OJ he’ll bust! Your red herring argument is nonsense and trying to deflect from your OJ bashing. We get it, you wanted Tkachuk. By the way, since you’re psychic and can see so clearly into the future, can you tell me what tonight’s 6-49 numbers will be? Please DM me as I don’t want to split the pot with others here! Thanks!
  21. He was also -11 in like the first 7 games or so. He adjusted quickly after that bad start and as above plus / minus is never really a great stat. It’s more a team stat than individual
  22. I don’t think everyone who believes OJ can be a 2-3 dman in the NHL is in fairy tale land, I’m not. That’s what he was drafted for. When he was drafted JB said he would need a year or two to gain strength but that his skating and mind, and skill were NHL caliber. He took the year in Junior to get bigger and like many young players who put on the wrong kind of weight came to camp sluggish. That’s been seen many times for anyone who’s been around the game long enough. Kids think just adding weight is all they need, when it can actually slow them down if not the right kind of weight - think Jake 2 years ago. He goes to Europe, has a slow adjustment period, then is the team’s best defence man in the second half and playoffs. Gets hurt (I believe training in the off-season) and it impacts his training and preparation . He goes the AHL, slow adjustment and picks up his game and gets hurt. He was and is developing fine if people are objective, but injuries have got in the way of a quicker transition to the NHL. We clearly would have seen him with the big club last year at some point had injuries not intervened. these people who whine about him, conveniently ignore that; a. He always was expected to take some time b. Not every player is immediately ready physically to play in the NHL and it was KNOWN, when he was drafted he was not there c. Injuries have slowed his progress to the big club. d. He’s only 21
  23. Why is it unfair to compare him to a second round pick who took 5 years to develop? He was drafted for the level of upside Josi has. Until he’s played 200 games in the NHL I will continue to expect him to achieve that level of performance. Nothing other than injuries suggests he can’t reach his ceiling and it’s people like you who actually want to ignore that fact.
  24. Who you callin honky? Lol
  25. He seems to believe he’s capable of it (still playing in the NHL) so don’t discount him walking. He’s made close to $50 mil in his career dude, walking away from 9 is 4.5 after tax. If he believes he can sign for 2 years at 2-2.5 per year and not take his family to Utica for three years I’m pretty sure he’d bite the bullet. Money is a lot less important to a guy who’s made 50 mil than you or I https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson
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