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  1. Maybe a team like Columbus takes a chance on him? Tort's could fix the discipline issue.....maybe?
  2. Lucic earning that pay cheque finally :emot-parrot: (oh well he has surpassed Loui Loui  - not saying much but still)

    1. Drive-By Body Pierce

      Drive-By Body Pierce

      How do you link to another status update? 

  3. I know this article is about current job losses under the Liberal government and I am not trying to sidetrack the topic but I feel I need to comment on job losses in general as the downturn in the Alberta economy over the past several years has affected me and want to share my experience as someone who has only lived in Alberta since 2010. I was fortunate enough in 2010 to receive job retraining as i had never been on EI and lost my job in BC. I chose to take carpentry and as someone in his early 40s it was a tough decision. Before that I had worked in the social services industry supporting Adults and children with developmental disabilities. Before that I had completed and Associate degree in Marketing/Management. After completing my first year of training I decided to move to Alberta for work and have lived here ever since. The oil was in boom phase and at the time I witnessed workers with no work experience or education receiving jobs that paid them a minimum of $50,000 a year doing mainly labourer work. Tradesman were making close to $100,000 a year and from what I witnessed everyone spent it as fast as they made it - myself included. We all thought it was going to last forever. fast forward to 2016 and in july I was working in Northeast BC as a project supervisor and the previous year had made over $150,000 ( I also should mention I probably worked 320 days that year and 12 to 14 hr days) We received a call that morning from our Manager who said we had a conference call at 1 pm. At 1 pm we were informed he company had gone bankrupt and as of 1pm no longer existed. We had to find ways home for all of our crews - company credit cards were cancelled so we couldn't even fill up the company trucks and myself and several other workers footed the bill to drive everyone home. We all lost any holiday pay we were owed and wages for the three weeks we were out on site. At that point - realizing that I had wasted an opportunity while the going was good I took a job in Winnipeg as a Project Coordinator on a civil project at a much lower salary and spent the next year once again living away from my girlfriend and my family in BC. In 2017 I decided that I was tired of working away from home and again took a job in Edmonton back in my old field of social services again at a reduced rate of salary. I have learned that we tend to live way beyond our means and blame governments and politicians for things that we do need to look in the mirror first. My girlfriend and i live what I think is a decent life - we just needed to get our priorities and finances in order which we have done. I guess what my point is - no one is guaranteed a job for life and its up to us to make ourselves more marketable to employers through education and work experience. Where I think the government plays a role is providing access to training and education for all Canadians so they we have a more skilled work force and can attract those industries which don't have shelf lives like some Natural resources do. We as Canadians need to re-evaluate our lifestyles and learn to live within our means and not base it all on how much credit we can get - savings is the key to surviving job loss - and being able to live within those means if a job loss does occur. Sorry for the rant - just wanted to add my thoughts to the topic.
  4. I'd add to this by saying since we have a Minority government I hope all the parties in Ottawa can start working together instead of constantly attacking each other to score points. The Federal government and Alberta working out an agreement on the Carbon tax gives me some hope. (Although don't tell UPC supporters the Alberta Carbon tax solution was originally developed by the NDP)
  5. CDC's own Odd Couple perhaps? Stromer definitely is the salty one - almost think he needs a hug
  6. They need to have their own thread where they can work out all the angst between them
  7. You know fellow posters here and leaders like Trump can call out my country for not contributing enough $ to NATO but how quickly you all forget the amount of blood we have given in Afghanistan in Canadian soldiers killed or wounded!!! When called upon this country sends its men and women to defend the rights and freedoms we cherish so much but it makes much more sense to b*tch about our financial contribution to NATO.
  8. Totaaly agree - and hasn't Taylor expressed a desire to play for a contending team? Put Hall on Colorado and look out!
  9. What does Loui have that Milan doesn't???? A goal hahaha -love it

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    2. Ghostsof1915


      They are both boat anchors right now. 

    3. CanuckinEdm


      two minor penalties that the Oilers scored on to win the game?

    4. NewbieCanuckFan


      Typical HF boards post:

      Difference between Tyler Myers & Ben Hutton?


      Hutton has scored a goal this season.



  10. Sorry just checked in on Sportsnet and saw Loui scored YES YES YES - trade him Jim - go go go
  11. Interesting opinion article in the Edmonton Journal (does this sum up what the rest of Canada thinks when Alberta complains about their current situation?): https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/swann-stop-the-blame-game-albertas-plight-is-our-own-doing?fbclid=IwAR2mLTJuzGuEwc8cj029aq9zJ7I30_zlRPnC4XsYbvzMiefKyDObQouT7lY Swann: Stop the blame game; Alberta's plight is our own doing DAVID SWANN Updated: November 16, 2019 Abandoned oil well equipment near Legal. File photo. SUPPLIED / POSTMEDIA, FILE SHAREADJUSTCOMMENTPRINT After 11 years as an MLA in the Alberta legislature under the Progressive Conservative government I feel compelled to challenge the blame now levelled at Ottawa for our difficult economic state. The current Alberta Conservatives have ramped up the tiresome strategy as old as Alberta; when in distress — blame the feds for our economic woes. And denounce the efforts for the TMX pipeline and policies for a new energy future, beyond carbon. The blame game by the UCP government also feeds climate change denial in spite of the overwhelming science and the growing global human suffering. How many booms and busts does it take for a Conservative government, in power for 44 years, to acknowledge they have failed to both recognize the need for alternate markets for our oil, more economic diversity and a science-based response to climate warming with stimulus for clean energy, energy conservation and efficiency programs? Transition is difficult at any time, and particularly in a recession. But responsible leaders do not ignore the science pointing to a climate tipping point in a decade. This is not the time to double down on fossil fuel stimulus, investment and subsidies. Nor is blaming the federal government (in power for just over one term) for the lack of pipelines. It’s time to face the truth. We are an oil state, with all its advantages, entitlements, hubris and decades of quid pro quo between the oil industry and the people in power, neglecting Alberta’s long-term well-being. Despite 15 years of prices from $50/barrel to $100/barrel (inflation-adjusted) there is little to show in the public purse to buffer our recession. Alberta’s Heritage Trust Fund is sitting under $20 billion, unlike Norway, which started its fund 15 years after Alberta and now has $1 trillion as insurance against the future. That is leadership in the public interest. Royalties have declined from roughly 30 per cent in Lougheed’s time to close to three per cent in the last few years; and yet the Big Five (Suncor, CNRL, Cenovus, Imperial and Husky) continue to post billions in profits. Albertans aren’t told that most companies operating in Alberta are foreign-owned, taking those profits elsewhere! Anyone close to industry knows the Western Sedimentary Basin is virtually empty and conventional companies have been losing money since 2009, transferring low-producing wells to junior companies, with growing numbers taking what they can and walking away from clean-up obligations; now totalling $260 billion. Again, Conservative governments continue to turn a blind eye to the contractual clean-up obligations of the oil industry. Government and its so-called “arms-length” regulators (specifically the Alberta Energy Regulator) have been captured by the industry and the Orphan Well Association (OWA), largely controlled by the industry, is now lost in a sea of insolvencies, begging for public money. Ironically, this lack of foresight, integrity and political will have contributed to distrust and loss of confidence from investors. The Kenney war room is another blatant political ploy against both climate science and free speech; ironically, it is partially funded by foreign oil companies. Oil prices and the global move away from fossil fuels are beyond our control. Let’s stop the blame game and acknowledge that we are all responsible for the Alberta we have, and for the Alberta we leave to our children. For all our sakes, let us see some mature, honest negotiating in good faith across this country and do our collective best to live up to our international commitment on the climate crisis. Alberta’s present state is largely our own doing. David Swann is former leader of the Alberta Liberal Party and past MLA for Calgary-Mountain View.
  12. Counter-proposal : We remove internet access and forms of communication from Hindustan Smyl Seriously - the hate for Sutter on here is insane - watch a agme or two and see what he actually brings to the table. The fact he can take some of the load off Horvat when it comes to ice time and faceoffs AND he can chip in a goal or two here and there brings depth to our 3rd line - something teams like Edmonton and Calgary wish they had
  13. Flames lose, Coilers lose - its a great start to my weekend :)

    1. 6string


      and the Leafs too!

  14. Oilers laying the beat down on the Avs - maybe they are the real deal?............. Nah :P

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    2. Alflives


      Avs don't play any D at all.  They are all goal sucks and one way players.  Plus, they have no goalie.  

    3. Type R

      Type R

      Anyone else miss Kassian?

    4. Gaudette Celly

      Gaudette Celly

      Ever since he left.

  15. The Leafs have some great writers doing great fiction stories for them but ol Spector takes the cake - love this article (Oilers are 12-5-2 and riding the scoring of three players and they have a foundation of winning? for what 19 games? My fav comment is Ethan Bear is a Top 4 defenceman haha - again after 19 whole games?) https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/oilers-built-winning-foundation-beneath-mcdavid-draisaitl/ Oilers have built winning foundation beneath McDavid, Draisaitl At its most basic level, it is the little things that big things are built on top of that make or break a hockey organization. The mundane foundation is an absolute necessity, if the goal is to build an inspiring, exciting masterpiece on top. The Edmonton Oilers have done it backwards, up until now, with Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl among the various star players who operated without the safety net of a properly built organization underneath. Today, at long last, it seems like that net is in place; that Edmonton has poured a proper foundation on which a functional National Hockey League team can be erected. Both in the micro and macro sense, the reason Edmonton heads into Tuesday’s game at San Jose in second place in the Western Conference and the (nearly) wire-to-wire leaders in the Pacific Division this season, is because they are doing the small things properly. Like developing the right way. Like improving the goals against. Like (yawn) winning more faceoffs. Yes, Draisaitl and McDavid are first and third in NHL scoring as we speak. But recall a year ago, when all of McDavid, Draisaitl, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Darnell Nurse (and a few others) had career seasons statistically, yet the Oilers were not close to being a playoff team. This isn’t basketball, where four really good players guarantee a level of success. The Oilers proved that last season, and are proving it again in 2019-20 by showing us what things look like when putting a foundation underneath their superstars. Properly run organizations are supposed to spit out a prospect or two from the depths of the draft — not just turning first- or second-round picks into NHL players. Along comes Ethan Bear, a fifth-rounder in 2015, who is drawing some Calder Trophy love. Bear is already a Top 4 NHL defenceman — a right-hand shot with exceptional puck retrieval skills. Here is a 22-year-old new-age defenceman who should be an anchor on Edmonton’s blue-line for the next decade, drafted in Round 5. Organizations with sufficient, professional roster depth have players on the American Hockey League roster who are ‘tweeners’ — players who have proven they can play in the AHL and are not there specifically for development, but as the 24th and 25th players on the NHL roster. In the past, whenever an injury occurred the Oilers were calling up some kid who hadn’t even proved himself at the AHL level, and was seldom able to help in the NHL. Now, that call-up is an 800-game veteran like Sam Gagner, or Colby Cave, who has played less (61 games) but possesses the NHL skills a fourth-line player requires. Neither are overwhelmed at the promotion, and both have actually helped when they come up — a whole new experience in Edmonton. On defence, Caleb Jones is officially over-ripe in Bakersfield, and will allow Evan Bouchard to remain in the minors should a D-man go down in Edmonton. A successful NHL team hits on the odd European free agent signing. While neither of defenceman Joel Persson, who is 25, nor winger Joakim Nygard (26) are superstars, both have made this NHL roster better. If we can assume that the two Swedes will get more comfortable as they pile up some games in their new environment, not only will they help the Oilers win now but they buy time for young, drafted players to be in AHL Bakersfield, rather than being rushed into the NHL. Sexy? Not at all. Efficient? Well, the Oilers aren’t a great team, but tonight marks the quarter pole of the ’19-20 season and they are not showing signs of folding their tents. Between Bear and Persson, the Oilers have survived losing defenceman Adam Larsson in Game 1 of the season. That injury would have crippled the Oilers a year ago. On the ice, this is an organization that ranked dead last in the NHL in penalty killing over the past five seasons. Today they are fifth in the league (85.7 per cent), another area that fans of the good teams often take for granted. They are also fifth best in the NHL in goals allowed per game (2.47), evidence of a team that is getting vastly better goaltending. Among NHL goalies with at least eight starts this season, Mikko Koskinen (.928) ranks sixth in saves percentage, while Mike Smith (.926) ranks eighth. It’s a pretty simple: Good teams get good goaltending, and while Smith has come in and stopped pucks, his value in allowing Koskinen to play less doubles his worth. So, five-on-five, the Oilers are not dominating, but they are surviving. What puts them over the top is the fact they are winning the special teams game on most nights. Edmonton’s power play success rate (29.1 per cent, ranked second) and penalty killing rate (85.7 per cent, ranked fifth) adds up to 114.8. That is highest sum in the NHL, ahead of Boston (114.4), San Jose (112.5), Washington (109.4) and St. Louis (109.1). Goaltending, some bottom six acquisitions like Riley Sheahan, Josh Archibald and Markus Granlund help there, even though the three have added almost zero offence. What they have done is keep games close long enough for the stars to win them for Edmonton. There are enough goals in this lineup to get to three most nights. There always has been. Now, they can keep the other team to two. That’s a whole new ballgame in Edmonton, one we haven’t seen for a long while.
  16. Whatever his beliefs - you can't go on a nationally broadcast game (on a Tax Payer funded Network) and call out immigrants for not wearing poppies - lots of non immigrants don't wear poppies. He was irrelevant years ago
  17. https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2017/02/27/Raw-Logs-Lost-Jobs/ aw Logs and Lost Jobs: How the BC Government Has Sacrificed Forest Communities Growing raw log exports mean almost 5,000 lost employment opportunities. First of two. By Ben Parfitt 27 Feb 2017 | TheTyee.ca Ben Parfitt is a resource policy analyst with the BC office of the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives. His recent research for the CCPA is published here. 15955SHARES JOIN 126 Comments Raw logs in a TimberWest shipyard near the Crofton pulp mill wait to be loaded for export. Photo by Ben Parfitt. ALSO IN THIS SERIES: ‘BC In The Balance’: The Tyee’s 2017 Election Reporting NDP to Raise Concerns with Elections BC about ‘Mishandled’ Ballots Liberal or NDP Government? We Should Know By Wednesday It’s Official: Liberals 43, NDP 41, Greens 3 Its members include the most powerful players in the province’s forest industry, companies that do the vast majority of logging on British Columbia’s coast. Its website boasts of “innovative, high-tech” companies whose workers turn out “a growing array of forest and wood products.” ANNOUNCEMENTS, EVENTS & MORE FROM TYEE AND SELECT PARTNERS Vancouver Podcast Festival Is Back! Four days of panels, masterclasses, meetups and more for podcast lovers, Nov. 7 to 10. But in truth, members of the Coast Forest Products Association are far from the job creators they could be. While forest industry manufacturing on B.C.’s coast stagnates, CFPA member companies, including the huge corporations TimberWest, Western Forest Products and Interfor, collectively ship millions of cubic metres of raw, unprocessed logs out of the province each year — a practice the association claims will increase profits, which may one day lead to investments in new sawmills. Included in the export mix are logs from old-growth trees harvested on Vancouver Island and Haida Gwaii, the Nass Valley in northern B.C. and up and down the province’s coast, including in the Great Bear Rainforest, B.C.’s much-touted showcase for coastal forest conservation and “ecosystem-based” logging. Since 2013, the year Premier Christy Clark led her government to re-election, almost 26 million cubic metres of raw logs were shipped from the province, with a combined sales value of more than $3.02 billion. No government in B.C. history has sanctioned such a high level of valuable raw log exports on its watch, or been so silent about the consequences. Last year nearly 6.3 million cubic metres of raw logs left the province. Had those unprocessed logs been milled in B.C. instead, an estimated 3,650 more men and women could have been working in the province’s neglected forest sector. Moving up the value chain and making even higher value forest products would have added even more jobs to the tally. The Tyee is supported by readers like you Join us and grow independent media in Canada For more than four years, the provincial government has invested much political capital in a largely failed attempt to create a new liquefied natural gas industry — an initiative in tatters with only one company committed to a modest project that may one day employ 100 people. Meanwhile, thousands more forest industry jobs may soon be on the chopping block should the upward trend in raw log exports continue unchecked. Ironically, the location of the promised LNG plant on Howe Sound is near Squamish on lands once occupied by the Woodfibre pulp mill, which closed in 2006. Such an LNG plant would be no replacement for a forest industry that, if properly regulated, could generate thousands more high-paying jobs in rural communities at a fraction of the investment costs associated with LNG plants and infrastructure. Barring changes in government policies, there is every reason to believe that a similar fate awaits other pulp mills and sawmills on B.C.’s coast, in part because so much of what is logged today never enters a domestic mill. Raw logs are, strictly speaking, forest products, but they are the most rudimentary and lowest value of all products derived from trees. Depending on age and quality, real value-added would mean transforming those logs into the studs and joists that frame our houses, the floors we walk on or the guitars and pianos we play. In 2016, log exports climbed more than 6.2 per cent to reach just under 6.3 million cubic metres. The increase meant that nearly one in three trees logged on the coast left the province in raw log form. Cubic metres are a rather abstract measurement and don’t convey what is actually at stake. Consider this: if the raw logs that left B.C. last year had been used just to make the lumber and other wood products commonly used in house construction, enough wood would have been milled to build approximately 134,000 homes, or roughly half of Vancouver’s standing detached housing stock. As the export of this valuable raw commodity continues, rural communities pay the highest and social and economic costs, deepening the divide as B.C.’s major centres show modest job growth and opportunities decline everywhere else. Port Alberni is one such have-not community. The central Vancouver Island town was once a thriving, diversified forest products manufacturing centre. Now sawmill production is down at least 20 per cent from the community’s economic heyday in the 1980s and 1990s, the once-thriving plywood mill is closed and pulp and paper production has dropped precipitously — a 57-per-cent fall from its peak. The decline in high paying jobs in the once-bustling forest industry has brought a sobering social reality: Port Alberni has among the province’s highest child poverty rates. Keith Wyton is an elected Alberni-Clayoquot Regional District councillor. He also runs a successful value-added outdoor cedar furniture and landscape tie manufacturing facility, although the business is vastly scaled down as he nears retirement. Wyton says there is growing unease as residents worry about the future of the region’s forests and its remaining forest industry. A resolution passed last year at the Union of BC Municipalities convention calling for a ban on logging old-growth forests on Vancouver Island underscored the unease, with some residents supporting the call and others opposed. But no matter what side of the divide Port Alberni residents landed on, Wyton said, no one is happy with the status quo. Vancouver Island’s vastly diminished old-growth forests continue to be logged at the same time logging of the Island’s smaller second-growth trees accelerates. Yet all that logging is not translating into increased jobs as more raw logs are being loaded into ships anchored in Port Alberni Inlet within sight of the town’s mills. “The supply for these mills is going away,” Wyton says. “Meanwhile, there’s no indication that a company like Western Forest Products is going to invest in a new, smaller diameter mill.” Wyton fears that if companies like Western Forest Products don’t invest in new mills that can process logs from smaller diameter second-growth trees, raw log exports will increase even more in the future. The Coast Forest Products Association doesn’t boast about the large number of raw logs exported by its members. But provincial government data shows that in 2016 CFPA member companies proposed to ship out almost as many raw logs as all other exporters in the province combined. Credit: CCPA. Of the almost 8.1 million cubic metres of raw logs that companies indicated that they hoped to export from the province in 2016, 3.8 million cubic metres (or 47 per cent) originated with CFPA member companies. One of those companies — TimberWest — was by far the biggest player, accounting for 2.03 million cubic metres. Other CFPA member companies of note were Western Forest Products, Probyn Log Ltd. and Interfor, with combined sales notices accounting for another 1.24 million cubic metres. (Companies wishing to export logs from the province are first required to advertise them for sale to interested domestic buyers, which do purchase some of the available logs. This partly explains the difference between the 8.1 million cubic metres of raw logs that companies advertised for sale — a first step in the export approval process — and the 6.3 million cubic metres ultimately exported in 2016. The spread between the two numbers is somewhat deceiving, however. Logs advertised for sale toward the end of one year may, in fact, be shipped out of the province early the next.) It is likely, however, that these figures do not reflect the true extent of each company’s involvement in exports. Western Forest Products, for example, has a dedicated “export team” and in hundreds of entries in the province’s databank the words “WFP Export Team” appear along with another client company on export applications. Most of the raw logs exported from B.C. end up in China, other countries in the Asia Pacific or the United States. Mills in the U.S. Pacific Northwest, just across Juan de Fuca Strait from southern Vancouver Island, are among those that receive raw logs from B.C. Island Timberlands, which is not a CFPA member company, was second only to TimberWest in its efforts to export raw logs from the province. The company served notice that it hoped to export nearly 1.53 million cubic metres in 2016. Along with Western Forest Products, these three companies are the undisputed export powerhouses in B.C., accounting for more than half of all log export applications. As the exodus of raw logs continues, BC Stats’ employment numbers paint a disturbing picture of declines in forest industry jobs. In the past 10 years, at least 22,400 people lost their jobs. The largest job losses by far were in manufacturing — sawmills and pulp and paper mills — not logging, underscoring what is at stake with continued raw log exports. In coastal B.C., not a single new sawmill of significant size has been built in well over a decade. The Teal Jones Group was the last company to build a new sawmill on the coast, a $30-million project in Surrey in 2003. This mill processes smaller second-growth logs, but shipments of second-growth logs still dominate the export market. In 2016, B.C. companies sought to ship almost five million cubic metres of second-growth logs while old-growth raw log shipments added roughly another 3.1 million cubic metres to the export tally. Western Forest Products, which is coastal B.C.’s largest lumber maker, has made significant investments in recent years to some of its existing mills on Vancouver Island, improving their efficiency and profitability. But such investments do not represent new mills, a critical point. Under existing rules, logs deemed “surplus” to domestic milling needs essentially have the government’s green light for export. This raises a thorny question: If more sawmills close, an eventuality that Wyton foresees as old-growth forests diminish, will log exports climb further still? Wyton’s fear, echoed by many forest industry workers, is that the answer is yes. Nothing will prevent a surge in exports without more investments — and soon — in state-of-the-art sawmills designed for second-growth logs. We can only estimate the jobs lost as a result of the lack of new mills. Assuming that enough mills were built to handle the almost 6.3 million cubic metres of logs that left the province in 2016, and those mills matched the provincial average in terms of jobs generated per unit of wood, another 3,650 men and women could be working in the industry. More re-cutting wood into higher-value components would generate even more jobs. Laying the groundwork for getting more mills built is another matter, however. That’s because in 2003 the provincial government abandoned a longstanding policy that required companies logging trees on publicly owned or Crown lands to also mill the trees in that region. Raw Log Exports: A Made-in-BC Problem that’s Only Getting Worse READ MORE The scrapping of those rules — known as appurtenancy clauses — flung the door wide open for companies to close mills without fear of reprisal. Mills were closing before the clauses were abandoned, but that sped up dramatically after the policy change. Since 1997, an estimated 100 mills have closed in B.C. With dramatically fewer mills processing wood, log exports soared. And in recent years, the largest increase in exports has been from Crown lands under provincial government control, underscoring the link between policy choices by the government of former premier Gordon Campbell and the consistently high level of exports from Crown lands in recent years. Historically, most raw log exports came from private lands, but no longer. In the last five years, approximately 60 per cent of log exports originated from lands under direct provincial government control. The remaining 40 per cent came primarily from privately owned lands, largely on southern Vancouver Island. Rules dating back to B.C.’s entry into Confederation have subjected those raw log exports to federal regulations. Two companies dominate the log export business on those federally regulated lands — TimberWest and Island Timberlands. The disturbing reality is that these companies are now moving aggressively to dominate exports on provincial lands as well. A “value-added” initiative by one of these companies underscores what may be at risk as the provincial government continues to ignore B.C.’s languishing forest sector.
  18. Well it was the BC Liberals aka Social Credit aka Cons or whatever you want to call it that came up with the genius idea of raw log exports. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if you cut your trees and send them elsewhere to be milled and then import them you will cripple your own lumber industry on the manufacturing side. Its that same mentality we buy into that we need to ship our raw crude oil elsewhere - when you send away value added resources without extracting the full value of the product this tends to happen. Difference between BC and Alberta is BC doesn't complain when times are tough - they come up with new industries and resources. Something Albertans need to learn. AND for those who point out the fact BC's forestry industry is bad for the environment - its a sustainable industry that allows the replanting of the resources for re-use. How again do we do that with oil?
  19. i thought this was his only problem in Vegas
  20. C'mon Canucks!! No way should we be losing to a "team like that" :towel:

    1. Drive-By Body Pierce

      Drive-By Body Pierce

      Doughty has a bit more swing.

  21. Looks like Jurco has been drinking the same water as Reider in Edmonton :D Holland's bargain bin shopping isn't working out so far.
  22. Have to agree - its been quite enjoyable so far.
  23. Outskirts of Edmonton lol - much nicer though- but still part of the greater Edmonton area. I an ex-BC Pat stuck in Alberta lol
  24. I think they make the playoffs and that will likely placate most Oiler fans (which is sad) - any team with talent like Draisaitl and McDavid whose goal is to just make the playoffs is a waste of their talent. The fact is they are a 1st round exit every time with a line up like they have right now. Shut down the top line and you win. Also if either of them go down with an injury (which is a possibility with the way McDavid drives to the net) and they are screwed.