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  1. I can't believe Iginla, Belfour and Malkin were left off but Sundin and Toews made it. Come to think of it I don't think Patrick Kane should have made it either.
  2. For all of you thrash metal fans, how would you rank the big 4 of Thrash Metal ie. Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax? Or if you'd like to include another band in there, absolutely nothing wrong with that. To spark discussion, could you explain your rankings? I'll get the ball rolling. 1. Megadeth- I actually think they are the most technically skilled and have the biggest discography. Are all the albums classics? Heck no, but Peace Sells, Rust in Peace and Countdown to Extinction are all great, great albums. Dave Mustaine's guitar playing is off the charts and the political anger in a lot of their lyrics makes them an engaging listen. 2. Slayer- By far the thrashiest and fastest of the big 4 imo. Their first five albums epitomize thrash metal and their speed and overall intensity on those records is virtually untouchable. Even 25-30 years after some of their best work, it's as intense as ever. 3. Anthrax- A lot of people probably rank them last, but I really like Among the Living and Persistence of Time. They're probably the least dark of the big 4, they even sound like they're having fun in a lot of their songs. I even like the John Bush era Anthrax in the early 90s. 4. Metallica- For a long time Metallica was my favorite band, I was obsessed with them in high school. Then I heard the other thrash bands and I think they've all stayed way closer to their roots than Metallica has. I still really really like Metallica's 80s output as well as the Black Album. I'm not going to say they sold out as that's what pretty much everyone says who no longer likes Metallica. But I am going to say they've taken the most musical mis-steps since their popularity peak in the early 90s. I can't remember the last time I heard a really good Metallica record. How would you guys rank them?
  3. Remember when O'Sullivan was relevant???? Neither do I
  4. I know it's a spirited game but the truly mentally tough players hear that nattering in their ear and they ignore it. Remember Crosby in the World Cup with Kesler yapping in his ear. It's like he wasn't even there. That's how you take the power away from motor-mouths like Burrows. But some of these guys just can't figure it out. He's getting paid a lot of money to get you off your game and they play right into it. I'm not a huge fan of yapping on the ice, think it's a waste of time, but I do believe it has an effect on a lot of players and messes with their heads during a game. The insecure players, i.e. O'Sullivan take it all personally and can't get over some inflammatory comment made on the ice 5+ years ago. Says far more about O'Sullivan than it does about Burrows imo
  5. Hey guys So way back in 1995, I found out from my Mom that the Canucks had traded Michael Peca to Buffalo for Alex Mogilny. I could not have been more thrilled! This was one of the league's most exciting scorers coming to the Canucks to play with another one of the league's most exciting scorers (and former linemate) Pavel Bure. This was huge news! Sadly as we all know Bure lost almost the entire '95-'96 season to a knee injury but Mogilny had a monster 55 goal year, probably could've even had more if not for a big cold streak near the end of the year. But I want to know what happened to Alexander the Great after that year? The last 3+ years he played with us he only had one other 30+ goal year. He did have solid numbers in '99-'00 but we traded him to NJ in a deal that brought us Brendan Morrison, and Mogilny a Stanley Cup. Why was he not nearly as prolific a scorer in his last 3+ years with the team as he was in his first year?
  6. Exactly. Hit the nail on the head. Very good insight. A lot of things have to go right to win a championship, and you have to be a little lucky. It's not like we haven't had a sniff at the finals in the last 25 years, got all the way to the ultimate game but came up short, twice! This team will eventually win a championship, everybody said the Chicago Cubs never would, and they seem to be knocking on the door. I refuse to believe this team is cursed or hopeless because true champions find a way, no matter what. The '04 Red Sox, the '93-'94 Rangers, all supposedly cursed, and they found a way. Management is building something good here, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Patience is a virtue as I'm sure a lot of people on these boards have said numerous times over the past 4 years. Just gotta be patient.
  7. Hey guys Thought it'd be fun to see who everyone's list of players are that aren't in the HHOF, but should be. Here are mine 1. Pierre Turgeon- 500+ goals and 1300+ points, as consistent as they come, Turgeon was a good player for a long time for several different teams. Why his name is never brought up in the HHOF discussion I'll never understand. 2. Sergei Zubov- Great offensive presence from the blueline in the 90s and 2000s, not a coincidence that all the teams he played for were pretty good. Led the Cup champion '93-'94 Rangers in scoring in the regular season, was more than a PPG player for one year in Pittsburgh, then became Dallas' greatest defenseman in franchise history. Definitely belongs in the hall. 3, Theo Fleury- Overcame all kinds of odds for a 400+ goal, 1000 pt career. More than a PPG in his career and was one of the league's top stars until his personal problems de-railed him. His overcoming those problems definitely make him a great choice for the hall. 4. Paul Kariya- For that stretch between 1996 and 1999, I don't think there was a better player than Paul Kariya on the planet, except maybe Jaromir Jagr. Kariya, despite a bit of a lack of size, was an absolute offensive machine in his heyday with the Ducks, with blistering speed and a wicked shot, not to mention his playmaking and puck skills. Averaged a PPG for his career. 5. Vincent Damphousse- Great stats, highly underrated. Can't believe the Leafs gave this guy up for Glenn Anderson. Who are your guys' picks?
  8. I think you hit the nail on the head. He's one of the best if not the best two-way forward in the game, but the offensive numbers are just pretty good, not "best in the world" good. I think Sid Crosby is a little overrated right now too. He's still elite, but the Conn Smythe and getting ranked the #1 player in the NHL by the Hockey News this year? I don't think so. I watched virtually all of Pittsburgh's playoff games (my gf is a Pittsburgh-native and fan) and I barely noticed him through the first two rounds. He only showed up for part of the third round and then played pretty well in the finals. My guess is there wasn't a clear-cut Conn Smythe fave so they just picked the cliche choice. Underrated in today's game? Mike Hoffman (Back to back near 30 goal seasons), T.J. Brodie, (really good smooth skating defenseman, gets no respect) Martin Jones (might not be underrated anymore, but he put on a clinic in the playoffs, especially game 5 of the finals) Overrated? Ryan Getzlaf (takes too many shifts off and his numbers are really declining), PK Subban (heck of an athlete, but he's such a liability with the puck, he gives away the puck a lot and it often leads to goals for the other team, I'm one of the few who thinks Montreal won that trade) Pekka Rinne (people give Luongo a hard time for his debacles against Chicago, but at least he actually defeated them once. Rinne seems to always play very mediocre in the playoffs, yet he's always mentioned as one of the best goalies in the league, I don't get it. His defense makes him look good.)
  9. Definitely agree with the Adam Oates is underrated sentiments. One of the best playmakers of all time, never gets much respect. I'd also throw Steve Thomas in there, guy could really score. The 400+ goal scorer nobody knows. Another overrated defenseman, Sheldon Souray. Guy had a massive point shot with Montreal, but I remember a lot of forwards walking him in one-on-one situations. Then Edmonton gave him the huge contract, he had one huge year, then just disappeared into oblivion. Another forward I'd add to the overrated list is Glenn Anderson. He was a really clutch scorer for the Oilers in their heyday, but after that he was just an ok player. The Leafs traded Vincent Damphousse, maybe their top star at the time not named Doug Gilmour, to get him. Damphousse was scoring in the 80-100 point range for a few years and helped the Habs win the Cup in '93, Anderson was just kind of a role player from then on out. Another underrated defenseman would be Larry Murphy. Never gets mentioned with the Bourques, Chelios' or Leetch's, only played in three NHL all star games in 20 years, and has more than 1200 career points from the blueline. Solid for pretty much every team he played for. Plus he has 4 Stanley Cup rings, 2 with the Red Wings and 2 with the Penguins. I also believe he's the only player that was on both of the most recent two teams to win back to back titles, the 91-92 Pens and the 97-98 Red Wings. Overrated goalies would have to be Tom Barrasso, Andy Moog or Mike Richter. I've seen so many highlights of those first two guys letting in soft goals yet they get mentioned right up there with the top goalies of their era. I don't understand it. Richter has two claims to fame, the '93-94 season, and the '96 World Cup, the latter was one of the best goaltending performances I've ever seen. But look at the rest of his numbers, He only had two 30+ win seasons, and only 24 shutouts in 12 years. Just an ok goalie who shone brightly a couple times. Not worthy of the hall of fame discussion he gets. I strongly disagree with the Belfour is overrated argument. In the early 90s he and Roy were the two best goalies in the league. He was a stud in Chicago, and really, haven't had a star like him in net since (Crawford is solid, but he's no Belfour). Then Belfour's presence in Dallas changed them from "good regular season team, no playoff success" to Stanley Cup champion.
  10. Hey guys I thought it'd be fun to see who your most overrated forward, defenseman and goaltender of all time is? And the same questions for underrated? For me Overrated (keep in mind I think all these players were good, but not as good as the media made them out to be) Goalie- Grant Fuhr Good glove hand, very athletic. But he seems to get a lot of hype when his team would typically score 6-8 goals for him per night. Defenseman- Mark Howe Solid defenseman, but it seems that his name carried a lot of weight. I don't think he's as good as Sergei Zubov and Zubov's not in the hall of fame and Howe is. Forward- Mark Messier This will probably make a lot of Canucks fans happy haha. I think he was a great player, but the credit he gets for his leadership abilities is vastly overhyped in my opinion. Plus he did nothing for the Canucks and the team got a lot better after he left. Underrated Goalie: Bill Ranford He plays the entire playoffs for the Oilers in 1990, wins the Cup and the Conn Smythe, the next year, Grant Fuhr plays the majority of the playoff games. Underappreciated might be a better word for Ranford. His skills faded a bit in the late 90s, but in the early 90s he was one of the best goalies in the league. Always played in the shadow of guys like Roy and Belfour. Defenseman: Steve Duchesne Always pretty solid for whatever team had him, Duchesne never got tons of fanfare. He had three 20-goal seasons from the blueline in the late 80s and early 90s and never once made the first or second all-star team. Forward: Pierre Turgeon Hard to believe he's underrated, but look at his stats, more than 500 goals and 1300 points and it seems like he's barely mentioned in discussions for potential hall of famers. Feel free to dispute my choices, that's the point. What are your guys' picks?
  11. Statistics don't lie, but I still feel it's nowhere near as gritty or sandpapery as the game used to be. The games I see on tv I see guys peel away from checks an awful lot, seemed to be a rare thing that a guy wouldn't put his check into the boards every chance he got 15-20 years ago. I completely agree that it's an arbitrary stat and smaller hits count the same as the big hits.They also could be counting just bumping into a guy as a hit, heavily inflating the stat.
  12. Hey guys Just wanted to share an observation, one I'm sure a lot of you guys may have noticed as well. Save for maybe one or two hard hits a game, it seems like the volume of good, solid, clean bodychecks has drastically dropped since the early 90s, and it seems to go down a little bit each year. If you watch the old Don Cherry Rock em Sock em videos, the real early ones, some of the hits are massive, and there are a ton of them (not all clean either). But back then the guys didn't seem to be getting concussed by every hit either (some could've been undiagnosed, but I think the speed and size of the players played a big part and the equipment wasn't yet made of the hard plastic that a lot of elbow and shoulder pads are made of now). I really miss when forwards had to actually be mindful of keeping their heads up, with guys like Scott Stevens and Rob Blake ready to knock them into next week if their eyes became fixated on the puck and they crossed the middle of the ice. Now if you lay a guy out it goes viral on youtube and we get newspaper and online articles about how evil and violent hockey is. So I'd like to hear your guys' opinion, if you agree that hitting seems to be disappearing from the game, why do you think it is? Do you think it's the rules, the types of players being drafted or the fact that maybe the owners eventually want to make it a no-contact league and have the NHL re-branded as the No Hitting League? Thoughts?
  13. That's not bad, kinda reminds me of what the Hartford Whalers might look like if they were still in the league. I always loved their look and colours. I like black and agree it's intimidating, but we're the only team in the league with this blue and green colour scheme and it's kind of ours now. Throw whatever historical Canucks logo you want on a blue and green backdrop and I'm good with it! Nice design!
  14. Hey guys This isn't exactly topical, but is there anyone besides me that thought Boston trading Ray Bourque to Colorado was kinda blasphemy? He spent 21 years there and has a black and gold "B" stitched on his heart and soul. He'd been through everything with that team. I get that he wanted to win a Championship, but is it worth selling your soul for? IMO he never should have worn another uniform. I know I'm in the small minority here as it seemed like everyone was reaching for the tissues when Joe Sakic handed him the Cup (I still think this was a very nice moment), but it never sat well with me, him wearing that Colorado uniform. Plus they retired his number in Colorado, seriously???? Anyone out there agree with me?
  15. Someone said we were close? I'd say more like 5 years away. Chicago, Pittsburgh and L.A. all missed the playoffs for several years before doing any actual damage in the postseason. Pit was just horrendous from 2002-05, Chicago was awful from 2003-2008 and L.A. was bad from about 2003-2009. Canucks have only really been awful for a year or two. Got a few more years of bad left.