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  1. Yes he did and did he not sign a long term deal here too. Can you actually blame for being mistreated by management .
  2. Actually I don't recall either . The Sedins came up when we had the West Coast Express. Kesler spent a year and half in the Ahl but also keep in mind his second pro season was a lock out year.
  3. Thats true Toews .. I was responding to Down Under's comment when he mention that the Canucks have ruined McCann 's developement by keeping him in Vancouver last year. The point is Toews they would most likely have sent him down if the Panthers didn't have the injury bug .
  4. So how do you think they ruined his development when he had nothing to prove in Jr and he was too young at the time to go to the farm ? The kid is only 20 years old . Florida could have sent him down to the farm.
  5. Imo I dont believe they can until the end of the season.
  6. Your right. But if they do bring him up its before this season ends they usually say interm. Most likely they're not going to give him an extension until the end the year.
  7. Why? Because he won a cup? You mention that Hartley is a proven winner. And weren't Iron Mike and John Tortorella were proven winners too. What was Bob doing before he was given his chance in the NHL Apollo. He was an Ahl coach? How about guys like Crawford, AV ,Randy Caryle before they became head coaches. Its better to bring a guy like Green who already knows the players and the system. Why do you think when a player comes up from Utica ,he doesn't look really out of place. Give the guy a shot as an interm basis and see what he does And go from there.
  8. Ok I can understand some of your points. Can you remember what he was left with when he took over the job from Gillis? The same man who signed over half his aging roster to NTC or NMC. Wasn't it Gillis that said that he wouldn't ask any of his players to waive their NTC? So you think were slow now can you imagine still having Gillis as your Gm and keeping his word but not asking any of your players to waive their ntc? Do you recall at some point we had two great goaltenders before Benning took over But somehow both goaltenders ended up getting traded. Are you going to say that we got a fair deal with the Schnieder deal by only getting a first (Horvat). Or do you think we could have got more out of that deal? The same could be said about the Loungo trade . Its not like Mike had a gun to his head by both players asking out of Vancouver, not like the Kesler trade that Benning had to deal with along with only two teams to work out a deal. How do you expect to have competitive team when you have an aging core and your prospects to delevoped right away when your just entering your third year? We heard the same thing when Quinn took over and he had to deal with poor teams for at least 4-5 years before they became a contender. And the same could be said about Burke. Both of those Gm had to deal with the mess from the previous management. but there is two things neither Gm had to deal with in their time in Vancouver that Benning has to deal with is a Salary cap and most of his roster weren't giving NTC before taking over the job. Every GM is going to make his blunders here and there. but shouldn't we give Benning a chance to not only deal with a mess from the previous management but to see how he builds his team through his drafting. I'm pretty sure No GM is trying to build their team to win a lottery. It's also not the Gm job just to compete to appease ownership just to make the playoffs only to be swept 4 straight either. Benning can only work with what he has and it going to take time. Its like me asking you to rebuild a race car within months but you have no engine to work with and a limited budget. Not saying Benning is doing a wonderful job either. I'm just saying give him some time when we have players like Boeser, Demko and other draft picks under Benning are ready to come up .
  9. Reapectfully that's easier said then done. In a salary cap world who would take on that much salary for two aging players for youth and prospects when you also have the Sedin's having a NMC in their contract? You also meantion that we should retain 50 percent of their contracts if they do get traded .You do realized that still goes against the salary cap. Yes im pretty sure ownership would go for that. How long did it take previous Gm 's like Burke and Quinn to rebuild this team. It took Quinn roughly 4 years . When Burke took over he had an aging overpaid Messier and a disgruntled Bure to deal with. Remember neither Gm didn't have a salary cap to deal wiith in their time in Vancouver. We do have young talent, but they need time to developed just like when we had a young Kesler ,the Sedin's ,a Bertuzzi, Naslund..etc . ..Sorry not every player that is 19 or 20 in our system is going to be a Crosby or an Austin Mathews that is going to come in right away and play lights out in the NHL. I understand what your getting at Janis but its also difficult when previous Management training away two top goaltenders and giving an aging core group a Ntc or NMC.
  10. If you want an idea what the potential of some of these players that have played in the NCAA just go to the BCHL games once in awhile. Most of these players are being scouted for an NCAA school and some of them have commitments for next year. Go to the BCHL website and cliick under news them go under commitments and there you will see a list of players that are going next year or the year after.. . Stecher and Garteig are two players that played in the BCHL.before moving on in the NCAA. . So I had an idea what kind of potential they had. And you have to realized that most of these kids coming from the NCAA if they played the full 4 years are going to be 22 -23 years old coming out of college. Three players were taken in the first round of the NHL DRAFT from the BCHL Jost (North Datoka) and fabbro (Boston ) from the Pentiction and Dennis Chowloski from Chilliwack (ST Cloud ) are going be playing they're first year in the NCAA.
  11. Maybe, Maybe not. Yes the goalie pads were smaller. Gretzky played on a dynasty Oiler team when they played in a clutch and grab Era. How would you expect them to keep up point for point with the great one when we had a poor team back then? And most likely they would have played for someone else other then Vancouver with the Gm we had back with their version of evaluation of talent. And even if they did played for Vancouver can you explain to me Appollo why they wouldn't stay long with the Canucks because they were a poor team?
  12. It all depends on the players. He's not a child. He shouldn't have to be told what he should and shouldn't do. IMO besides Eriksson we had those other players for Kassian. Did it help him much? We had alot of Mentors for Shane O'brian as well.
  13. From what Iv'e read so far Wilbur I don't see anything wrong with what Linden said about Kane. As far as I know he didn't meantion about aquiring him . All he said was people make mistakes.
  14. I understand where your coming from. At the same time these are 18 year old kids. We don't know for sure how these kids will turn up in the future. How do you know kids like Virtanen ,McCann,,Boeser,Horvat, Granlund will not be developed by the time the Sedins are gone? To say there is no Defensemen that is projected in the top pairing in the first round is hard to say. We don't know that for sure.. Ben Hutton turned out to be a pretty good player without playing major Junior. Players like Fabbro and Chlowoski who have played Jr A that are projected to go in the first round will be going to College next year. Who is to say how these two will developed in 4 years.
  15. Believe me Saint...LOL I really did have a sentence that was deleted I just didn't go far enough to delete the And part. But that you for the reminder .