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  1. I understand where your coming from but every NHL coach started out unproven at some point. Keenan and Torts were proven NHL COACHES but only lasted a year here. It all depends if the coach can be suited to the players style of play.
  2. Pretty much dead on Warhippy. Choosing to have the nucks ranked 9th is a fair assestment. The future looks alot brighter now then it did a couple years ago.
  3. Thats because they didn't have a GM OR President after they fired Quinn. But that all changed when they hired Burke the following year.
  4. Even the mighty Quinn made some questionable trades or moves in the Past or did nothing at all .. Keep in mind Quinn never had to deal with a cap ,nor did he had to deal with players with NTC. Back then Players never became free agents until they reached the age of 31. Big difference.
  5. I Agree that we're on the right track . It's going to take some time to rebuild. Burke and Pat Quinn went through the same thing.
  6. You have some interesting points. But Janis isn't it a little bit premature to say that Horvat who is in his third year is not going to be an a elite center? A kid who has improved his game every year he's been here. Would you have said that a few years ago about Kesler , or a H. Sedin , They didn't look like Elite Center in their third year in the league either. We could also say that Reinhart has potential but so does Horvat . You maybe right on Virtanen . but I also remember people were saying the same thing on a young Cam Neely . Yes being a tanker will not guarantee job security for a Gm ,Coaching staff or even players for that matter. , but reality is they're going to do whatever it takes to make this team compete every night. And players are not going to tank when they have jobs to fight for. Remember this is their livelihood. Nobody is Guarantee that we will get the first pick overall with as tank. No guarantee that first pick will not be a bust or that a late pick will not be a superstar. We could draft Owen Tippet and he may or may not turn out. How many top 5 picks did we get in the 70's and 80's Janis? How did that worked out for us. Also did you put into consideration who your going to expose to the expansion draft? I can understand where your coming from Janis. But that's a pretty big gamble that may or may not work.
  7. Agree it is possible but at the same time players have the right as to which team they want to go to. And working out a trade isn't as easy as it is on paper. Look at Kesler's situation when he only gave two teams to work with. They also have to think about who they could expose in the expansion draft.
  8. 1) Poor drafting in the mid 70's and parts of the 80's when we did have a top 5 pick. 2) Having Jack Gordon as our GM who traded Cam Neely and our 1st pick to Boston for Barry Pederson . 3)losing the cup in 94 4) collapsing to the Redwings ( 2002) and Wild (2003) 5)The death of Bourdon 6) Drafting Patrick White. 7)Trading away draft picks by both Nonis and Gillis. 8) Losing the cup in 2011 9) Trading away both Loungo and Schneider within a year where they could have gotten more in return.
  9. Yes he did and did he not sign a long term deal here too. Can you actually blame for being mistreated by management .
  10. Actually I don't recall either . The Sedins came up when we had the West Coast Express. Kesler spent a year and half in the Ahl but also keep in mind his second pro season was a lock out year.
  11. Thats true Toews .. I was responding to Down Under's comment when he mention that the Canucks have ruined McCann 's developement by keeping him in Vancouver last year. The point is Toews they would most likely have sent him down if the Panthers didn't have the injury bug .
  12. So how do you think they ruined his development when he had nothing to prove in Jr and he was too young at the time to go to the farm ? The kid is only 20 years old . Florida could have sent him down to the farm.
  13. Imo I dont believe they can until the end of the season.
  14. Your right. But if they do bring him up its before this season ends they usually say interm. Most likely they're not going to give him an extension until the end the year.
  15. Why? Because he won a cup? You mention that Hartley is a proven winner. And weren't Iron Mike and John Tortorella were proven winners too. What was Bob doing before he was given his chance in the NHL Apollo. He was an Ahl coach? How about guys like Crawford, AV ,Randy Caryle before they became head coaches. Its better to bring a guy like Green who already knows the players and the system. Why do you think when a player comes up from Utica ,he doesn't look really out of place. Give the guy a shot as an interm basis and see what he does And go from there.