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Not being tossed aside. There are provisions for limitations. A global Pandemic would qualify, would it not? And another word needs to be repeated: TEMPORARY. You probably need to read it. Here: https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art1.html Provision 1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. Similar provisions When enacted in 1982, section 1 of the Charter represented an innovation in human rights law, as it set out a general framework for justifying limits on rights and freedoms guaranteed in the Charter. There is no similar provision in the Canadian Bill of Rights. With respect to international instruments binding on Canada, somewhat similar provisions may be found in the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, which contains stand-alone limitation provisions in Articles 4 and 5. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights contains limitation provisions which are specific to certain rights: Articles 12 (mobility rights), 14(1) (open courts), 18 (freedom of thought, conscience and religion), 19 (freedom of expression and opinion), 21 (right of peaceful assembly) and 22 (freedom of association). See also the following international, regional and comparative law instruments that are not legally binding on Canada but include similar provisions: the South African Constitution’s Bill of Rights includes a very similar general limitation clause in section 36. The European Convention on Human Rights contains limitation clauses which are specific to rights and freedoms guaranteed under that Convention: Articles 8(2) (right to privacy), 9(2) (freedom of thought, conscience and religion), 10(2) (right to freedom of expression) and 11(2) (right to freedom of peaceful assembly and right to freedom of association); that Convention, however, does not contain a stand-alone limitation provision. The United States Bill of Rights does not contain a similar provision. Purpose Section 1 effects a balance between the rights of the individual and the interests of society by permitting limits to be placed on guaranteed rights and freedoms. “Most modern constitutions recognize that rights are not absolute and can be limited if this is necessary to achieve an important objective and if the limit is appropriately tailored, or proportionate.” (Canada (Attorney General) v. JTI-Macdonald Corp., [2007] 2 S.C.R. 610, at paragraph 36). The values and principles which guide the Court in applying section 1 include the inherent dignity of the human person, commitment to social justice and equality, accommodation of a wide variety of beliefs, respect for cultural and group identity, and faith in social and political institutions which enhance the participation of individuals and groups in society (R. v. Oakes, [1986] 1 S.C.R. 103 at page 136).

Ya, it reads like an anti-vaxxer/covidiot wet dream. I was scrolling through and I happened to see they quoted a REDDIT comment as a source. Seriously. Page 183.

Not like the Government can't order people to do things in an emergency or during a public health crisis. Does a global pandemic not qualify?

All the more reason to get the F out. Or is this reason for YEARS more occupation?? I think we can admit that throwing good money after bad is something to avoid. Trillions thrown into that dumpster fire should be enough, shouldn't it? Nope, the hawks want to spend more, kill more, all for what? What is the end goal here that 20 years couldn't achieve?

I think it was more informing the public. Thing is, the WHL has a vaccination policy for players and staff, but not fans. The OHL, on the other hand, has a vaccination policy that includes fans. If you want to go to an OHL game in Ontario (they also have US clubs) fans will need to follow their policy.

I'll be able to, if/when fans are back. Got a double dose of Pfizer. https://www.myprincegeorgenow.com/146792/prince-george-cougars-fans-will-need-to-be-vaccinated-to-attend-games/ Prince George Cougars fans will need to be vaccinated to attend games

Cue the Military Industrial Complex parrots calling for intervention. The war on terror isn't over. Rinse repeat.

Big banks, now the airlines. https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2021/08/26/canada-Air-Canada-mandates-that-all-employees-be-vaccinated-by-end-of-October/9091629966255/ Air Canada issues COVID-19 vaccine mandate for employees

Abstract BACKGROUND Preapproval trials showed that messenger RNA (mRNA)–based vaccines against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) had a good safety profile, yet these trials were subject to size and patient-mix limitations. An evaluation of the safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine with respect to a broad range of potential adverse events is needed. METHODS We used data from the largest health care organization in Israel to evaluate the safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine. For each potential adverse event, in a population of persons with no previous diagnosis of that event, we individually matched vaccinated persons to unvaccinated persons according to sociodemographic and clinical variables. Risk ratios and risk differences at 42 days after vaccination were derived with the use of the Kaplan–Meier estimator. To place these results in context, we performed a similar analysis involving SARS-CoV-2–infected persons matched to uninfected persons. The same adverse events were studied in the vaccination and SARS-CoV-2 infection analyses. RESULTS In the vaccination analysis, the vaccinated and control groups each included a mean of 884,828 persons. Vaccination was most strongly associated with an elevated risk of myocarditis (risk ratio, 3.24; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.55 to 12.44; risk difference, 2.7 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 1.0 to 4.6), lymphadenopathy (risk ratio, 2.43; 95% CI, 2.05 to 2.78; risk difference, 78.4 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 64.1 to 89.3), appendicitis (risk ratio, 1.40; 95% CI, 1.02 to 2.01; risk difference, 5.0 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 0.3 to 9.9), and herpes zoster infection (risk ratio, 1.43; 95% CI, 1.20 to 1.73; risk difference, 15.8 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 8.2 to 24.2). SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a substantially increased risk of myocarditis (risk ratio, 18.28; 95% CI, 3.95 to 25.12; risk difference, 11.0 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 5.6 to 15.8) and of additional serious adverse events, including pericarditis, arrhythmia, deep-vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, myocardial infarction, intracranial hemorrhage, and thrombocytopenia. CONCLUSIONS In this study in a nationwide mass vaccination setting, the BNT162b2 vaccine was not associated with an elevated risk of most of the adverse events examined. The vaccine was associated with an excess risk of myocarditis (1 to 5 events per 100,000 persons). The risk of this potentially serious adverse event and of many other serious adverse events was substantially increased after SARS-CoV-2 infection. (Funded by the Ivan and Francesca Berkowitz Family Living Laboratory Collaboration at Harvard Medical School and Clalit Research Institute.) https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110475 Safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a Nationwide Setting

Doubling down. https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-issues-executive-order-39-prohibiting-vaccine-mandates-in-texas Governor Abbott Issues Executive Order 39 Prohibiting Vaccine Mandates In Texas

Who would have thought that cases would increase after the rally. Who https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-dakota-covid-cases-quintuple-after-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-n1277567 South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally Meade County, home to Sturgis, has had a more tha

I'm pretty sure that very quickly, status would become clear. Perhaps even a sign at the front declaring that yes, all the staff have been vaccinated and verified by the owner/management. If a place actually did that, they would be first on my list. There are some places that have acted all tough stating they won't push vaccinations. Easy to avoid.

Or, we as patrons can ask that they as well can verify their status. Not vaxxed, then I want a different server. If none can verify, then I'll take my business elsewhere. Enough people do that, then the owner and employees will have to question what they are doing.

So Florida wasn't the only state that has tried to manipulate the data that they were reporting at the State level in order to paint a better picture for themselves. So not New York will report using the CDC standard, and not one made up for themselves. That meant the tally excluded people who died at home, in hospice, in prisons or at state-run homes for people with disabilities. It also excluded people who probably died of COVID-19 but never got a positive test to confirm the diagnosis. https://apnews.com/article/andrew-cuomo-health-coronavirus-pandemic-7312b49695e726eda8d59848e82271c5 New NY governor adds 12,000 deaths to publicized COVID tally

So you don't have an answer. Great. I'm sick of your holier than thou attitude and failure to provide us with an alternative to the data that we have available to us. I'm sick of your weak "reasoning" from the don't trust the government because tinfoil hat conspiracies crowd.

You still have that choice. No one is forcing you. If you choose to not get a vaccine, there are consequences. I'll enjoy watching a live hockey game while you will be stuck at home. Boo hoo. Oh, so then provide us with a source you do agree with. If we cannot trust in the data that has been collected, then what data are we to trust? What method do you use to determine if data is untrustworthy? I WANT AN ANSWER. I WANT TO SEE SPECIFICS. EXACTLY WHAT IS A SOURCE THAT YOU DO TRUST. And no, I won't apologize for the all caps. I've had enough of types like you who poo poo the data because conspiracy yet provide no alternatives. Put up or shut up pal.

I was unaware that going to The Keg was a right. The more you know. Again, show us where people are FORCED. They have a choice that has consequences. You could choose to go out in public naked, not wear shoes, drive without a seatbelt, ride your bike without a helmet, and all of those things have consequences and are not taking away your freedom. People make choices that have real world consequences all the time. This is not equivalent to you strongarming me for something. Oh, and you are playing the bodily autonomy card. I was unaware that people who don't want an abortion can catch an abortion when they go out for lunch. You can catch the virus after going out for lunch and the overwhelming majority don't want to catch it. Also, this is a public health emergency. A global pandemic. Show us where the government is not allowed restrictions during said emergency? I'm pretty sure they are allowed and I'm pretty sure they are temporary.

Who would have thought that Keith would have lasted longer. RIP Charlie

Ya, because there are NO vaccines that only require one or two doses. There are none that require 3 doses or booster shots. None whatsoever. (I'm sure the sarcasm is oozing out of your screen from this post).

Man, I hope that we don't end up like the US Red states like Missouri. https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-missouri-hospitals-steve-edwards-coxhealth-5abd8ba5-39ab-4416-a02d-42a008428bae.html Why a hospital CEO uses Twitter to detail the pandemic's toll The pandemic in Missouri right now almost has been as bad as ever, with cases soaring and ICU beds filling up with COVID-19 patients. Vaccination rates remain low. What they're saying: Steve Edwards, CEO of CoxHealth, a six-hospital system based in Springfield, Missouri, has been using Twitter to beg people to get vaccinated and admonish those who try to downplay the virus or vaccines. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity. Axios: Your latest update painted a pretty grim picture of the state of the COVID-19 outbreak in your area. Can you break it down a little more? Steve Edwards: We know that hospitalization and mortality are trailing indicators, and those numbers are still very high for us. We do have some encouraging data on seven-day rolling average for new cases. But one of the challenges for us is, we are an early outbreak area. As we begin to be in a position to take a break, other hospitals will be overwhelmed. We are really worried about drowning our staff. We're getting about 50 to 75 requests for transfers a day to our hospital. We can't fulfill many of them because we're virtually full ourselves. A: How burned out is the CoxHealth staff? SE: I don't think we'll know how severe it is until the pressure of these inpatient admissions comes down. I think that's when you begin to see staff say, "I'm done." ... But it is exhaustion, extreme exasperation because 95% of our patients are unvaccinated. A: Why aren't more people getting vaccinated? SE: My instinct is ... people are overwhelmed with competing information. People telling them to get vaccinated, people telling them not to get vaccinated. I think it's in our human nature that when we are overwhelmed, we become paralyzed and choose not to act. Mistrust of the government and medicine also is a common denominator. A: Has CoxHealth tried going to employers, places of worship and people's homes — in essence, bringing the vaccines to people instead of waiting for people to come to you? SE: We've tried so many things in our own employee base. We have been finding success by holding forums and have different physicians stand there for an hour answering questions. We've done that with businesses as well. We've done home visits. We've sponsored "get a vaccine, get a beer" with a local brewery. But I think there's this hardcore group of people who are going to be hard to reach, and there are political, ideological, faith-based reasons with their reluctance. A: You are in the minority of hospital executives who use social media to communicate. You've told vaccine opponents to "shut up." You've mentioned how many people who have died lately are parents with young children. SE: I'm really not that sophisticated when I'm tweeting. A lot of it is kind of visceral. That last tweet was really recognizing a friend of mine who lost a brother. I'm frustrated that people want to minimize or diminish the severity of the disease. I know it hurts people who've lost someone. A: So why have you been tweeting more during the pandemic? SE: Beginning in March of 2020, I read three different books on pandemics. John Barry was the best I read, and his lesson was, millions died because we didn't tell the truth. That resonated with me. I think [using Twitter] has built some credibility. Early on, we didn't hide behind how we didn't have enough personal protection equipment, and the community raced to help us. But it also does make you a lightning rod. I've gotten death threats; I was approached by a guy who served me papers. I'm not an outgoing person, honestly, and I'm rather introverted. But I told myself if there's ever a crisis, that's a time to stand up.

I'd love to understand what rights these are that you speak of. Last time I checked, vaccination status isn't a protected class like age, sex, sexual orientation, race, religion so no discrimination here. Also how does a global pandemic not give the government the ability to suspend some of these rights you say are lost in the interest of public safety? I'd love to see your analysis here. I'd also love to see where this is permanent. I have a pretty good idea what your retort might be for this one. You do realize that there are all kinds of rules and regulations that businesses have to follow right? Not following said rules and regulations that are set and enforced by the government doesn't end well. Nothing new here. You do realize that people are not being forced to take the vaccine? They can choose to not take it and face real world consequences for not taking it. I'd love to see some sources, especially ones of the Canadian legal variety.