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  1. He's a bit the same as Hughes really, doesn't kill penalties but racks up points on the PP and is a righty. I think we need a more all-round defenceman in our future top-4, Severson would be nice but I'm a bit cautious about his defensive play. We still might have the guy we want in Rafferty or Juolevi anyway. I would do Virt + Stech + Brisebois for DeAngelo if they'd be interested. Going forward, Hughes-Myers and Tryamkin-DeAngelo would be fun to watch.
  2. He's a good puck mover, decent size and uses it well but for some reason he's always had a shocking +/-. Whether that's because he's on a rubbish team, or his defending is actually that bad, I'm not completely sold on Severson the way I was when he broke out. Jake is having a big season and may be turning a corner, I'd give him a bridge contract and see what he can produce in the next 2 seasons before trading him because he may end up being the 20-30 goal scorer we needed from him.
  3. I'd lose Eriksson for sure and have a big think about Roussel. He might be key for us in the playoffs, but has been really up and down. I'd keep him on and decide in the offseason, lose him if we can keep all our guys for that extra 3M. Certainly keep Sutter and Beagle, their worth down the middle, especially in the deep playoffs, will be invaluable and Gaudette is not quite defensively good enough yet. 6M of LE off the books should be enough to resign Toffoli, even if the cap drops.
  4. Good on them for doing so, the season isn't over and there may well be playoffs and a Cup winner. Leading into 2011, Gillis just got us a couple of 3rd liners. He should have blown the absolute bank and traded away all our 1st and 2nd round picks of the next 2 years to give Kesler and the Sedins two 30 goal scorers to play with. We not only would have won in 2011 but arguably again the next season and could have created a dynasty. Biggest fault of MG tenure was not going all-in and becoming the ultimate buyer. We could have had a couple of cups. Plus, those picks didn't turn out the best anyway...
  5. We've never had strong, physical forwards in our top 6. We've never had depth and 10-goal scorers on our 4th line. We've never had a true top defenceman. We have had an elite goalie in Luongo. We've had two elite forwards in the Sedins. We've had a top defensive 2nd line center in Kesler. Ironically, the things we lacked in 2011, we have now. We've finally got offensive depth, which is always key in long playoff series because your 3rd and 4th liners are the ones who score goals when the top lines are checked to death. We've got a top defenceman in Hughes (debatable, he's not a top defensive defenceman but offensively, absolutely), and we've got some real strong top-6 forwards (Bo, Pearson, Toffoli, Miller). I think JB has created this club perfectly, and if they get into the playoffs they'll really do some damage in long matchups.
  6. I think we always have a skewed view of our players, but the question is, how will they translate and compare to the rest of the NHL? I think Podkolzkin will likely be a top-6 winger, might be a bit inconsistent at times but he's got the tools, it's all about the development for him so the sooner we get him into Utica the better. Hopefully he's Utica-ready next season and possibly break into our bottom-6 in a year or two after that. Good chance he's a medium to long term NHLer. I think Hoglander's shown his elite skill level and will make the NHL, he may not be a consistent scorer and worst case scenario may end up the next Goldobin, but he's got potential and again, the sooner we get him into playing tough North American hockey, the better. I think he might need a year or two in Utica before even trying the NHL. At the moment good chance he's got a medium-length NHL career. Rafferty out of nowhere deserves an NHL spot next season for sure but again, AHL success and NHL success don't necessarily correlate. Could be a bit of a wild-card depending on how he deals with the speed and pressure of the NHL, but I think he's got a decent chance at a small to medium NHL career. Lind I expect to put all his tools together and compete for an NHL spot next season. He probably won't get it because we're so deep at the moment, but on a weak team would deserve it. If he hustles the way Gaudette did he might push an NHLer out (Beagle, Sutter, Roussel in particular) because Lind as the skillset for the NHL. I think he'll have a decent medium to long NHL career. Juolevi is interesting, I really do hope he has a long NHL career but he has never really dazzled people at any level. He's been steady and consistent which I'm hoping translates to the NHL, and if he plays in the NHL the way he has in the AHL and previously, he'll be fine, an Edler-type steady player. Based on his pedigree I'd expect a long NHL career from him but with injuries and inconsistencies in Utica you never know. Rathbone, Woo and Focht I'll lump together as big unpredictables. Honestly I think they'll get a bit of a stint here and there in the NHL but will primarily be Utica players. Rathbone seems pretty solid right now (point per game in NCAA as a defenceman) as does Woo offensively, but we need to see how their defensive game can handle big strong forwards in the AHL first.They'll really have to work their ways up slowly almost the way Stecher did and whether or not they play in the NHL depends on our defensive depth in 2-3 years.
  7. Miller - Pettersson - Toffoli Pearson - Horvat - Boeser Gaudette - Sutter - Roussel Motte - Beagle - Virtanen Eriksson MacEwan Edler - Myers Hughes - Tanev Stecher - Fantenberg Benn That's basically our current lineup if we re-sign everyone. Personally I hope: 1) Eriksson gets bought out or traded, MacEwan slots in on a regular basis or Ferland ideally if he's healthy 2) If not, trade Sutter 3) We re-sign Tanev or a similar UFA defenceman for around 4M 4) We re-sign Stecher or if need be let him walk/trade his rights and give Juolevi/Chatfield/Brisbeois/Rafferty a chance at being our 7th rotating defenceman.
  8. Agreed, Leivo was a nice stop-gap but now that we've finally got some decent wingers for Bo, he becomes expendable. We could keep him for a decent 3rd line but we've got plenty of young forwards who we should move up to that spot.
  9. I agree with most of this but sadly don't think Ferland will be playing hockey anymore and am a little scared about Juolevi starting in our top-6. He really should be by now but I don't know if he's our best AHL defenceman. Maybe Rafferty gets the nod, maybe Chatfield or Brisebois, but surely one of those guys can play 15 mins a night to save us some cap. Up front I doubt JB can move all of those contracts realistically but of course it would be nice. If Ferland comes back I say Roussel at 3M is expendable but I don't think he will so let's hang on to Roussel. I just can't imagine JB trading Sutter after all this "foundational player" stuff, as much as I know most fans want his cap gone. I think your forward lines are bang on, just that JB wil likely keep Sutter. Baertschi has to be the obvious dump to a struggling team for a late pick or considerations, he still has some NHL hockey left in him so hopefully that's an easy 2M cleared. On D sadly I think you're right in that Stecher is going to have to be traded or let go, we can't afford 2.5M+ on our bottom pairing at the moment. Tryamkin is a wildcard, if he doesn't sign then I think we should either keep Stecher cheap or sign one of the many UFAs out there (my pick would be Edmunson) but Stecher would certainly be the cheaper option. I doubt Tanev gets much of a raise to be honest, he's getting older and is still clearly injury prone so hopefully he resigns at around the same 4.25M amount.
  10. Not entirely stoked considering we have some great forwards but could always use a free signing, plus he looks like a decent playmaker and could be some insurance in case we lose Pearson or Toffoli in the future.
  11. There's a lot of far more tempting UFA defencemen out there (if we really need one, which I don't think we currently do) who might take a bit of a cut due to the lowering of the cap and the coronavirus break. Tanev is the obvious best deal and he'll probably be happy to re-sign here at 4M hopefully for about 2-4 years (the shorter the better for him). Barrie and Schultz are both puck movers and will ask for around 5-6M which is what they deserve, and while we could always use another PMD, they're both shaky defensively. Vatanen and TJ Brodie are interesting, they haven't had the best seasons so might be able to be had relatively cheaply. I doubt they'd stoop as low as 4M, probably 4.5M at the best, but they're both pretty solid who could use a change of scenery. The more shut-down variety include Kulikov, Edmundson (my personal pick of the lot, youngest, could get him for 3.5-4M and physical), Dillon and Hamonic who are all going to go for around 4M as well. In all honesty there's not much difference between a 30 year old Tanev and the other guys around the 4M mark apart from old age and wear and tear. Tanev's been with this group a long time though and it would be nice for JB to keep the group together, especially if there's not that much difference in quality. If Tanev wants 4.5-5M or more importantly, a long-term deal, I think JB has the right to walk away because there's plenty of other similar defencemen on the market, but I do hope we keep Tanev. Great PKer, 20-30 point pace on the season (is better than the other shutdown guys), a decent quiet leader and role guy for the young defencemen coming in. That being said, I'd take Edmunsun and his 6'4" physicality (similar point pace as Tanev) for 3.5-4M in a heartbeat. Best case scenario (not happening though) would be to trade Stecher's rights for a pick or let him walk, somehow buyout Eriksson's 6M or get rid of it and then re-sign Tanev and Edmunson. He'd be a massive upgrade on Stecher but not much of an upgrade on Tanev.
  12. A one-time allowance for a buyout would be JB (and most GM's) wet dream to be honest. Let's say for arguments sake that we get 2 buy-outs but the cap drops to 80M: 1) Virtanen 2.5M short-to-medium bridge contract 2) Motte 1M 3) Gaudette 1.5M bridge 4) MacEwan 900K 5) Tanev 4M or sign a UFA (there's loads out there, Brodie, Hamonic, Dillon etc. who will probably ask for much more than Tanev) 6) Fantenberg 1M 7) Markstrom 5.5M 8) Toffoli 5.5M (considering a lot of the other top-6 guys make around that and Toffoli fits that bill, realistically deserves 6M but will hopefully take a corona-cut) Let Leivo, Domingue and Stecher walk (or trade his rights for a pick) That takes us to 76M including penalties if we buyout Eriksson's 6M and lots of flexibility. Realistically we could sign another top-4 UFA defenceman or keep Stecher if we really want, give a bit extra cash to Markstrom or Toffoli who really deserve it. If JB can somehow wrangle his way out of that Eriksson contract he'll be considered a God for many reasons, but mainly because it'll let us keep everyone together despite the dropping cap. Personally, depending on how low the cap goes, I'd re-sign Stecher for around 2M as our 5th defenceman (can play top-4 20 minutes in case of injury, not many bottom pairing guys can do that) and dish the leftovers out to Toffoli, Marky, Virtanen and even Motte and Gaudette. Without the buyout we're obviously in the early 80's cap-wise and JB will have to think of some sort of cap-related trade.
  13. Watching the game again it's crazy to see the chances the Sedins generated and sustained pressure. In today's NHL I wonder how many they would have scored...problem is they never had a true finisher, now we've got a team full of goal scorers with no playmakers ironically. That 3rd line of Lapierre, Hansen and Higgins was dynamite as well. Lots of GMs try and bring back players who have chemistry together in former teams, just like JB bringing in Toffoli and Pearson, and Laps and Higgins were the duo of that era. Don't think we'll see a team that strong for a long time if ever. Best two forwards in the league at the time, best 2nd line centre, best 3rd checking line, best PP and PK, best top 4 defence in the league and arguably the best goalie in the league. I think the main missing link was some 2nd line wingers to play with Kesler and bottom pairing defence (Alberts was brutal), which is where Boston beat us - depth. Again ironically I think the current day Canucks have better depth, a much better 6th and 7th defenceman and 4th line, than that 2011 and 2012 team.
  14. Would be a big gutsy move by JB to let our veterans Tanev and Markstrom go and hinge our hopes on the youth. Demko is showing signs of brilliance at times but he's clearly not NHL-starter ready just yet. We'd really need to sign a bonified backup for him. I think we could get away with a 40-40 split with Demko and another goalie, but we lose a LOT of quality with Markstrom. Personally I don't see JB doing this, especially after what Marky's done for this team this season, but it does open up a lot of space for the future. Going with Tryamkin over Tanev again is a huge gamble of basically choosing the unknown over the safe, stable choice. I do wonder how much Tryamkin would ask for, probably in the realm of 2-4M, which he probably deserves, but we have no idea how he's going to perform. In his brief time with the Canucks he was an absolute unit, smooth skater, contributed points and a beast physically, but he wasn't the best PKer positionally and got caught out on odd-man rushes sometimes. He's a much riskier player than Tanev. I don't think JB is ready to make a risky move like this since he's so slowly built a foundational team here, but desperate times call for desperate measures and he may well do it after this whole COVID-19 fiasco. That being said, I think JB understands as well that you build a solid playoff team from the goalie out, not from forwards down. Sadly, I think that might mean letting Toffoli walk to keep Markstrom and Tanev, but I do hope there's another way and that we shed our secondary and tertiary players costing us 2-4M so we can keep a relatively expensive core together. Guys like Sutter, Roussel, Stecher and Benn are nice but they cost too much for what they bring. Usually they'd be great, but if the cap goes down we can't afford our bottom players to cost ups anymore than 1M really, which could easily be replaced by the top AHL guys.
  15. I agree that's the obvious place to cut some cap, lose Tanev and Stecher and we save 6M easily which we can throw to Toffoli and Markstrom. The other option is just let Toffoli walk but in all honesty, Toff is 27, in his prime, has 3-4 good 20-40 goal scoring years and fills out our top-6 beautifully, so it's very tempting to give him what he wants and keep him, especially consider we burned Madden on him. On the flip side, letting Tanev and Stecher walk opens up a massive hole on our blueline. Edler's getting older and won't be as good, Myers will be the same, Hughes will be better, Fantenberg will still be a decent bottom-pairing defenceman but then we've got 2 AHLers in our top-6. One or two injuries and we're right back where we started (like last season). I'd be more tempted to keep Tanev (try and get him for 4M, or the same as what he's on now) and let Stecher walk and be replaced by Tryamkin/Rafferty/Juolevi, because he stabilizes the defence far more. Then up front let Leivo walk (replaced by Toffoli really) and give Toff the cap we had for Leivo which is a decent 1.5M.