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I took the timber scaling course and exam this spring out of Nelson. 90% certain 100% roughly 60 of us failed. Several of my cohort who did worse than I took the same test in burns lake and passed. Pretty un impressed thankfully it was just an add on for what I do and my livelihood wasn't depending on it.

Wow great stuff, Turns out this could have been it’s own thread lol. Never had so many notifications from a status update 

Thank you all for your awesome stories It's been a helpful distraction from mine! 

@Fateless sure, doesn't change how your other arguments were poorly thought out. Also your dismissive and idiotic comment about weed not being legal. 

Loui Eriksson was 31 when he signed his contract and his slower style of game wasn't a fit. That's not a good analogy. That and being 6 million bucks a year for 6 years knowing you can't be moved. Kadri is no Eriksson so I just don't get why you're pushing that so hard to crap on him. Kadri is a decent player who has wheels and Christ, as I pointed out, Kadri isn't scoring only because of his line mates. Nor am I suggesting we ship out Dahlen for Kadri. How does it help? Grit, toughness, scoring? All three things everyone was complaining about last year. Oh man. 

I'm not even that invested in the idea, I'm just completely baffled by how blind and biased some Canuck fans are. 

Not even going to comment on Pettersson. If you watched the World Championships you'd know he's a player. Already creative than Backlund. Won't be a super star next season, but he'll be a heck of a player. 

one step further , gudbranson gets a suspension  for uttering threats after a game which is as bad as kadri's on ice stuff , but do you really think there would be any cohesion , sign matt martin well were at it...…...

@NHL'er - The pot comment was clearly a joke. I apologize for your feelings getting hurt.

Its not about being biased towards Kadri. He's a good player. He just doesn't fit on this team (in relation to how much we'd be giving up to acquire him). He's going to be a productive player for another 3-5 years. The problem is that by the time our team is contending for a cup, he won't be productive anymore. 27 isn't old, but its too old for the core that our team is building. By the time Pettersson is in his prime (24 years old), Kadri will be 32(?) and well past his prime. Then Kadri is just taking up roster space and likely on an overpaid contract (assuming he plays as well as you think he will for the next few years and Benning hands out his usual bloated contract extension) while we're trying to load up the team with complementary pieces. 

I stand by my Eriksson example. No one thought he was going to regress the way he has. He'd just come off his best scoring season in his career. He met the criteria you're claiming we want Kadri for (grit, toughness, and scoring). Yes I know that he was further along in his aging curve and had a higher risk of regression, but my point is that the aging curve isn't an exact science and the further Kadri gets along that curve, the more likely the bottom falls out of his career.

Not to mention he's like to have a career ending injury over the next season or two considering how much he's disliked - particularly if he puts on a Vancouver Canucks jersey. Then we REALLY wasted Tanev and Sutter.

@Dazzle

I'm thinking he was uninsured.?

Call Confuse-A-Cat. 

one where u dont work for 7 months and still have to pay rent with your credit line  and then u have 9 grand in physio rehab and chiro bills then your off work 3 months for knee surg thats how u accumulate 42 in debt from a accident in another country 

Lol no.

It's a good question, and the answer for me is no.....

I'm gonna say absolutley No!

@JM_ na I'm at a point in life where I'm earning enough money I'll just take the hit and move into a boujee new place myself. She was the kind of roommate who probably wouldn't have gotten me meds if I got seriously sick. 

@NHL'er was this a girlfriend that was your roommate or a friend that was your roommate? 

friend that was a roommate 

No love for Sammy. 

I'm not sold on him not being a #1 centre, but I think at best he'll be a fringe #1 centre. Maybe 60-70 points in his best years. Good, but not great as far as top line centremen go.

Sam isn't going to be a 1C. I love Sam and I will always cheer for him there is no other player I have followed so intensely and for so long. 

His development hasn't gone the way a lot of people thought it would. He won't be that perrenial 70+ point center. He's more than likely going to stay as a wing and be a 55-65 point player. I could see 70+ as a career high.

Putting the blame on Gillis when Benning bricked 2 top picks is pretty disingenuous, Daz. 

Lmfao.. im dead.

Dazzle came in here and offered nothing to this convo except to defend Benning.

How embarrassing

All the current Canucks problems stem from Mike Keenan, not Benning

Grumpy Sleepy and Dopey

For their aversion to putting up any points, and my love of baked goods:

The Donuts or Ari-donut

I'm having a hard time with this, I still like Beagle. Can we put Loui on a different line? 

Outcasts? 

Buttman gives them a sweetheart deal in the draft, and in addition allows Vegas to do side deals so instead of taking good players that were available, they allow them to do side deals.

The only outcasts in Vegas is the GM and their coach. The coach was fired by their stupid GM in Florida.

The GM was fired because he made a boneheaded deal with Nashville. 

There's no outcasts. That's all media spewing garbage on an NHL spin.

This is not Columbus/Minnesota type expansion where they got 4th line plugs and are on some plucky luck with a former 1st overall goaltender.....

Ya, neither team is spoiled... Both are where they are on merit. I'll cheer for whoever wins the CF to win the SC.

MAF is about to implode.  Jets win this series in six. 

Problem is for a while we were never the worst team in the league, just meh.  This was before there was a lottery for the 1st round (where finishing dead last meant you did get the first overall pick).  Could mean the difference between getting a guy like Gilbert Perrault instead of Dale Tallon.  Look how the Pens got Lemieux, Crosby, and Malkin.

@NewbieCanuckFan  I don't buy that. If you suck at drafting and developing you find a way to suck: Nugent Hopkins, Yakupov.

Suck at developing?  Schneider didn't suddenly get better after being traded to New Jersey.  Sedins didn't become Art Ross winners overnight nor Kesler a Selke winner immediately.  Gillis was lucky he inherited a good coach.  Who heard of Bieksa before he became a legit top 4 guy or Tanev.  A shame Gillis couldn't draft well to sustain the teams success.  

Keep in touch online, and after a bit of time you'll both know if you want to see each other again.  if so, one will fly to meet the other in their home country, you spend some time together, and then you should know.

@Agoork solid advice, thanks! And thanks rest of CDC ahaha especially @debluvscanucks 

I was actually in the same boat.  Met a girl from Denmark in the Caribbean and we only had a week together before she went back home.  After keeping in touch, I flew to Europe to see her 6 months later - was only supposed to stay a week, but extended it to 2 weeks, we fell in love, then shortly after, spent the summer together camping and travelling around BC and Alberfta, and fate was sealed.   I married her overlooking Bow Falls in Banff, and we now have 2 teenage kids. 

One decent forward UFA please.

Kane at the high end of acceptable, Bozak, Vanek, but only one.  No probs for some PTO's in case the young guys ain't ready. Wont panic if a Gaudette, Juolevi or Dahlen starts in Utica. They should play a fair bit in the bigs.

Utica should be pretty good? Lind, Jasek, Brisbois, Brassard, Sautner, Palmu, Gadjovich, maybe Dahlen etc.  Weak at C? Unless EP & Gaudette play there?? 

Hey where is 

i heard that he wanted at least 2 years with a ntc. not sure if that is true. 

@J-23Why?  The Canucks are almost as bad as the Sabres!

I don't know, I like that kid.

I think he'll do well in his career.  I just don't want the Sabres to rush him into the lineup and burn a year off of his contract.  The Sabres aren't a playoff team and won't be for another 2-3 years at the least unfortunately.  It all depends on how quickly Jason Botterill can build up a decent roster.

@zzbottom who are you addressing? 

lol the person I quoted? 

@zzbottom - I'm not sure how I'm being hyperbolic. Perhaps my opinion of a good draft is overstated because of our franchises historically terrible at drafting, but Benning has been very good so far based on how our prospects are projecting.

Boeser has been fantastic. Tryamkin has been fantastic (issues with him not returning are irrelevant to Jim's choice to draft him), Virtanen has been admittedly a bad pick. However, Benning picked Pettersson who has been shatting SHL records set by the Sedins and Peter Forsberg and hes outpacing William Nylander by a wide margin. Lind and Gadjovich are looking like steals based on their draft position. DiPietro and Demko are both doing very well for their draft positions.

Overall Benning has done great with the draft. Giving him more bullets in the chamber would only be a good thing for this team. 

i read that quickly and thought you said you want haggis. i've tried it. 

@smithers joe I actually rather enjoyed it.  Would definitely eat it again but I'm not going to go out searching for it.

i know, it is just the thought that it's all wrapped up in a sheep's gut. 

@logic Hutton scored 25 in 3 fewer games. Hutton's also on pace for another 25-30 point season. Maata this year is on pace for 10 points this season.

Yeah, slightly bummed as well.  Of course an offensive-type D-man is great but when he's not producing that's not that valuable.  Plus, he was projected more to be a big-minute all-rounder in the mold of OEL, Lindholm, or (dare I say it) Lidstrom, so yeah.  Getting an Ehrhoff would be underwhelming.

yes. bummed...need him to become a Lidtsrom!!!/Selanne ....cuz he is Finnish, right?

@coastal.view give Tanev the C just to make botchford shut up about trading him

"C" for cast or cane maybe if we're talking Tanev. If the team doesn't go all "A's" this season I suggest Edler as Captain until passing it to the next young guy. Horvat it is, just a matter of time.

I thought the Canucks were trading Tanev and Edler? 

i agree with the gallagher being worst comment

he just irritates me more than others

i can almost always predict what he will say

and he will take positions contrary to an earlier position

if it suits his anti canuck viewpoints

Gallagher loves skill and he's grumpy when the Canucks aren't doing all they can to get skill.  He was by far the happiest (well, happy for Gallagher anyway) when the Sedin's and Vigneault were the Kings of Vancouver.  He has high expectations and a realist, which can come off as being anti-Canuck, but if you know that slant going in, he doesn't seem so doom and gloom.

tony had a grudge against pat quinn. he used his column to attack quinn. every column. one game, the canucks won like 7 to 1. tony's column said the canucks played well, and then added in, no thanks to pat quinn. when pat died, tony wrote, i don't know why it took me so long to like him. i always thought the province should fire him for that but maybe he sold papers. i quit buying the rag.

Anyone remember an old animated clip on YouTube where some GM's from teams that he's meeting butcher his name in all kinds of ways?  "By-foo-loo-GEE-Lee-in".  "It's Buff-Lin".  

I did a bit of a double take, took me a few second to realize who he was referring to. Truly fantastic name butchering, gotta love it!

actually like big buff, just didnt when he was with the hawks.

If he stays healthy, I think Dumba will have more goals. I think point totals will be very close. Dumba probably has the edge in +/- as well. There is also the potential for the dreaded "sophmore slump" for Dahlin, though I wouldn't count on that for a player of his calibre.

You could also look at if you are doing the opposing GM a favour by upgrading him in goal. 

I think I have convinced myself the other way from choosing to go for Dumba. Coming off injury as well... Keep Dahlin and Kuemper.

He was much like Edler. Did the best he could but reality he was a 2nd line centre that was thrust into 1st line role. Maybe a 1b centre? 

In his top season, he was probably a bottom of the line 1st line centre, but aside from that, more of a good 2nd line centreman who could complement players very well.

You could even say he was the best of the line in playoffs, coming up with big goals.

Sutter was 6th on the team in goals last year (including Vanek), while playing hard minutes in a shutdown role despite missing 20 games.  He was also one of our few + players.  He is far from the offensive black hole you portray him as.   LE wasn't far behind and wasn't a minus player either.  These guys won't create a ton of offense but they won't drag a line down due to their presence. 

i agree again with you heffy

experienced veterans

can protect the new young talent

and ease their transition to the nhl

but that is not a very popular view point

as you forecasated

i can see them together down the road. imo, jake is going to be a good power forward, by the time EP, makes it big time on this team.

I'd say, right now it probably goes

Tkachuk

Toss up between EP and Dahlin

At this point for me its Petey , then Dahlin and then Tkachuk. However you can not discount the Eastern Media - not so much as Bias as they don't get to see Elias play as much. Kind of like the Linden - Leetch race. Elias needs to run away with it in order to win IMO

Tkachuk is scoring at a higher rate than EP is

Can I ask why are you leaving England? 

jolly good show old soak. pip pip and all that rot.

and? No.

Tanev + Granlund maybe

More like straight-up or no dice.  

Stevie Y will be in a bind financially, needing to re-sign him, Palat and Johnson (all R.F.A.'s) and media are already reporting that either Johnson or Drouin would be dangled as trade bait if things get tight money-wise (they can move Johnson with Brayden Point's emergence).  If they want to patch up that right-side defense they better be willing to offer Drouin straight-up for Tanev.  No to adding Tree.