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  1. Plot twist The forum announcement use to say October 1 It now says in October.....
  2. They forgot the most important rule …. Lay off the employee tasked to turn off the last light switch …. LAST….. betting they got let go first and no one left knows how lol
  3. In non physical violence the aim of both canada and us courts is rehabilitation. For addicts if treatment is sought and followed the outcome will be better than just doing time.that normally makes the person worse For most of these people the treatment path is harder - more challenging than any short term time out behind bars. Society is safer if people like.him get healthy and stay in treatment vs sending him to jail for a few months where he will.be treated like a.hero and get out worse than when he went in Sadly society forgives.A holes alot faster then they forgive addicts. We see.the bad boy reformed allowed.back sooner than we remove.the stigma from.addicts..... just the way society works
  4. Nope Being drunk is NOT a defense BUT - being an alcoholic can be in law There are several high profile.SCOC rulings that for things like assault being so drunk they don't remember etc- can not be used as a defense But for addicts the act of being drunk can't shield them from responsibility but being an alcoholic not only mitigates some sentencing in other cases if treatment is taken it will result in no sentencing Normally its for non violent acts the courts.will.pause the case if the person enters treatment and then make maintenance of the treatment plan the sentence vs convicting them
  5. Years ago on a labor course a former Judge was the presenter and used a real example in which alcohol and addiction played roles ( the case went through the courts and is considered case law in the US ) Story goes 2 garbage truck drivers get pulled over and busted for open beer and the driver being DUI With there employer both were fired on the spot and their union grieved Before the arbitrator both men had to speak The driver - clean record never a blemish. Begs forgiveness and has already involved his pastor to work with him to make sure he never walks this pass again ( he had never drank on duty before or had any history of ever being drunk ). He had had 1.5 beers Passenger - yah I drank 5 beers that day , I do every day. Normally I would be on my 6th or 7th beer at that time and sisht even feel 5 beers at all. It's kinda my thing Guess the outcome ? Driver fired for irreparable damage to the trust relationship- would have been a 90 day suspension if he hadn't been the driver - discipline upheld by court Passenger - placed on leave and given 2 options - voluntarily resign or see a specialist and If diagnosed as an addict enter residential.rehab treatment. The oassenger took the medical route and kept his job. He was not free from consequences as he had to sign a last.chance agreement and is subject to random urine checks the rest of his career and must maintain active AA membership as well Point being - addiction is real and is medical. It's no different that any other medical problem. There is no such thing as consequences free rides. The harder path is treatment as it makes it public , you can fool a judge but your not going to fool addiction specialists and your going to have to follow medical orders to abstain from all drugs and alcohol to be considered medical stable and able to work That and we want addicts to see.there is a path back if they ask for and accept help His career most likely over unless Boston gives him a go in the minors but If he truly is an addict the only people that get to decide if he is forgiven or not is those he hurt .... so all.the best to him as the path he has chosen will.be the hardest work in his life but will be the best work he's done If he's using it as an excuse he about to get a.rude wake up call in life
  6. That makes them the same as store bought novelty gear- not player worn Changes a 3000 dollar.charity jersey to a 299 buck common jersey They are not the same
  7. It means all theme.based.jerseys are gone Cancer - indigenous- military and the list goes on And what about Christmas? How many atheists will it take to cancel NHL Christmas events ? 3? Maybe 4? This just proved why it's needed because all it took was for a small very vocal minority to take away something that was enjoyed by the majority and needed by some
  8. This is exactly why it was so wrong for those opting out- they have successfully canceled something that the majority supported Social media is already flush with people claiming victory and cheering the nhl for taking something back that was apparently lost Very disappointing
  9. Making it safe for players who identify with pride isn't an agenda ..it's the law.and employers are required to take steps Hockey is part of our culture and when we face a.crisis or a problem we often turn to.things.that unit us That's why the NHL participates in anti bullying messaging , anti violence messaging , charity work for things like school programs and Canucks place ... Why they stood for Humboldt strong.and many other important events If we tell.players to basically shut up an play it takes away from who we are ...... Like it or not when kids see their hero's say we all belong .... It means something. To each their own but I like that players stand for comlunity values and at times lead the larger voice for us
  10. If everyone in the locker room behaved as such if agree They don't .... Far from it. So calling them into the conversation instead of going hard line and throwing them out is preferred What you describe is the end game goal .... We are far from it but yup when no one in that locker cares anymore then it's a conversation not needed ..... But that day.isnt today
  11. Negative .... The player might not mean disrespect and there may be hidden political reasons as you've mentioned but the far fringes.of society uses these examples.to.validate. their hate Kuz should have requested to be sat this game and then this mess could have been avoided.
  12. I saw this a few years back in a junior game where a player instead of a cammo theme jersey had a poppy themed one ( remembrance vs honoring serving ) That's an easy one to navigate as even Russia recognizes a remembrance day and consciences objectors still served but in non combat roles
  13. If all other hockey players ( including gay onnes ) were accepted as equals in the locker room then I'd agree we don't need pride events at hockey That is absolutely not the case and until it is that's why the message needs repeating Gay players do not have the same treatment and rights as other players in any locker room ..... Even players acknowledge this so not sure why you think they do?
  14. I've already established over and over and over and over and over that religious grounds are protected rights and accomodations must be made But yes if someone says they hate or dislike pride just because , and refuse to support a company event simply because of opinion then yes their should be consequences. One is a protected right and the other is not
  15. Do both of you protest against Canuck theme nights at Christmas or Valentine's Day or other team nights they wear modified warm up jerseys? If you do for all events then you can claim your just against teams celebrating anything other then hockey If not ( spoilet alert ) and your clearly not .... Then you both are exactly why more work is needed
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