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  1. Sorry, I couldn’t remember exactly where I saw it, and I looked around tonight, but unfortunately I couldn’t find anything online that I could share here. If memory serves, somebody who does manual tracking published a kind of “entries heat map” that I saw a while ago. I can’t remember who it was. I think they’d manually tracked zone entries and then overlaid plots approximating the paths of the puck carriers’ routes, creating what was effectively a traffic map for the entries against a particular D pairing. I know some of the professional analytics outfits do tracking that can generate a wide variety of reports and visualizations, involving puck movement, player movement, and various combinations of the two. There’s a lot of data available, especially if you have the money to pay for it. This will only expand and become more sophisticated, and ubiquitous, once the NHL officially rolls out their Puck and Player Tracking system (which IIRC was supposed to be starting in this year’s playoffs and should definitely be in effect for the 2020-21 season).
  2. Benefits of us having a messy house and being packrats: just searched the junk drawers/cupboards for some elastic string (wife is making masks) and found five n95 masks and a full pump bottle of Purell. Score!
  3. Yeah, analytics in general are pretty hit and miss. Well, the data itself doesn’t lie, but the interpretation is where the problems start. As far as Tryamkin and “forwards letting up on his side,” there are some very cool heat maps and other types of data out there that can quantify or offer good visualizations of what’s happening on entries and routes when particular D pairings are on the ice.
  4. There actually are. They’re just proprietary. Well, at least as far as tracking goes. There’s definitely no metric measuring fear. I’m sure the Canucks have access to very sophisticated tracking data, and to several other metrics that the general public never sees.
  5. Miller(1)-Pettersson(5)-Bure(6) Edler(5)-Ehrhoff(2) Miller(2)
  6. Well, he’s pretty fashion forward, so who knows? Could be that gender bending, fungus-based clothing is the latest menswear trend on the streets of Moscow.
  7. I think the main purpose of the question was just being about to post a quote on social media and rile people up. And it worked. So many people on twitter now talking about the tired, old “entitlement issues” with Tryamkin and his unwillingness to play in the AHL.
  8. Pretty much this. I think there’s a real argument for Myers, and the case can easily be made, at least as a pure hypothetical. But in the real world, there’s just no way JB pulls the trigger on a compliance buyout for a player he just acquired as the centrepiece of his 2019 free agency moves. The Myers contract will likely prove itself a costly mistake by the time we get into years 4-5 (and I honestly question the value for money for this player even today), but it’s a decision that the Canucks made with their eyes wide open, and I don’t think they feel much differently about the contract today than they did on the day they signed it. For better or worse, Myers isn’t going anywhere (except maybe Seattle?). Roussel is a useful player who was just having an off year due to his struggles coming back from an injury. We’ve seen better from him (last year), and we will again. I’m still a big believer in his value as a complimentary piece on this roster, and a player who plays a much needed role, and can actually be quite a difference maker, when he’s on his game. Ferland is similar. If he’s healthy and able to play his game (or even one with less physicality but still retaining his skill), he remains a useful piece in an NHL lineup. And if he’s not healthy, he’s sent to Robidas Island for the duration, or he just simply retires. Sutter and Beagle probably aren’t worth their contracts any more at this point in time (and certainly moving forward), at least looking results based and as pure roster pieces (versus younger/cheaper options that could fill similar on-ice roles). But they are still very useful players and both of them offer significant “value added” in the room and as key members of the “greybeard” leadership group that helps guide the young core. So that leaves the obvious, in Eriksson, and the practical, in Baertschi. Eriksson is clearly wasted money and clearing his contract would be a godsend. Not much more to say. Shoot him into the sun and put everyone out of their misery. Baertschi, for right or wrong, is never going to get the chance to play any kind of significant NHL role in Vancouver, so we might as well save the money, if given the opportunity to shed his salary. It’s not going to be a huge savings, but it’s better than just wasting money on a guy who’s never getting out of the AHL doghouse until he gets himself clear of this organization. I would argue that Baertschi is not really the best “bang for buck” option for a second compliance buyout. But while there might be “smarter” options, from a pure “asset management” perspective, none of them seem realistic for the specific conditions of this team and its management/ownership group. As you note, if the Luongo penalty could somehow be converted to a buyout, that’s an obvious win and I’d be all over that option. However, I don’t see the league doing us any favours, so I doubt that one is in the cards. So that leaves us with Eriksson and Baertschi.
  9. He didn’t get much opportunity this year. He was the youngest forward on the roster and one of only two 2000-born forwards on Cornell, the other being 3rd round pick Matthew Stienburg (who scored 10 points in 27 games, compared to Malone’s 8 points in 27 games). Malone was getting mostly 4th line and 13th forward duty (and was scratched the first weekend IIRC), while playing on the #1 ranked team in the nation, with a roster that was heavy on upperclassmen and some delayed enrolment underclassmen who had a couple years on Malone. Not a situation where you’d expect a teenage freshman to step in and just get handed minutes (like we saw, say, with Madden at Northeastern—although Tyler quickly proved deserving of being named 1C as a freshman). Malone was generally playing limited minutes, heavily sheltered, lower QoT, checking/energy roles, and just getting his feet wet this season (although he did find his way onto the power play a couple times, a scored one of the goals on the man advantage). His minutes did increase as the season wore on. He started out getting <10 minutes a game, and moved into the teens during the new year. Cornell was also seriously gunning for a national championship, at least before COVID-19 reared its ugly head, so it just wasn’t a situation where any new guys, especially younger freshmen, were going to get much rope from the coaching staff. I would expect Malone to see a serious uptick in his production next season, and he moves into a larger role, and returns with a year of college hockey experience under his belt. He still profiles as a kid with some decent upside, based on his previous success at the USHL level. Plus Cornell is a top flight program in the NCAA, so while he may not have seen much game action, I’m sure he’s been getting good development in practice, as well as having access to top level training facilities and coaching. He’s still a long shot, of course. But he’s a player we should be patient with and just let cook for the next few years. I expect he’ll do a full 4 year stint at Cornell (especially since he’s a serious student—he’s enrolled in the Dyson School of Business at Cornell, which is one of the toughest programs to get into), graduate, possibly win a championship along the way, and then we’ll see what we have in Jack Malone. EDIT: You won’t find much out there detailing Malone’s season (part of the reason why I wrote a lengthy post here—although lengthy posts on some our lesser known prospects is kinda my thing ), but the following tweet has a decent thread discussing his results for 2019-20. I know JD Burke isn’t the most popular guy around CDC, but he at least offers some decent info on the player (and Daniel Gee also chimes in):
  10. I suppose the good news is that this signals that Hogs is likely to sign, once the new agreement is in place. Can’t really blame them for pushing for a better deal. The transfer fees have been too low for far too long, especially when it comes to top players.
  11. Well, hopefully we’ll be through the worst of it by then. I mean, if the Rona takes away our right to riot, I’m gonna... riot? Uh, wait a sec... never mind.
  12. Reading this tweet, it seems like Madden was expected to sign with Vancouver. Seems like the Huskies were hoping the trade might delay things, and they’d maybe keep him an extra year when the rights moved to LA, but that they were already prepared for Madden leaving (to join the Canucks).
  13. I think when all’s said and done, Rathbone will sign with the Canucks, and it’ll be similar to Lockwood where we’ll eventually learn that Jack basically told Benning, when I’m ready, I’ll sign with Vancouver, and other teams don’t even enter the equation (like Lockwood did last year when he told JB not to worry about him holding out and that Vancouver was his only NHL choice). Rathbone, to me, is of a similar model to guys like Gaudette and Lockwood. Fiercely loyal, extremely motivated and hard working, with a great appreciation for the team that drafted/believed in him, and committed to starting his pro career with his draft team. I don’t see a free agency hold out as something he really considers as an career option, mostly just on principle. Rathbone has basically said as much in several past interviews. And when you listen to guys like IMac, who have sources inside the Canucks, they’re basically telegraphing a message that Rathbone isn’t signing anywhere but Vancouver. I suspect it’s just a matter of that they don’t want to come out and say it until the ink is dry on an ELC, but that everyone knows that, when Jack is ready, he’s gonna be a Canuck. EDIT: If I’m wrong and Rathbone does hold out and sign with the Bruins, I’ll probably start the day with eating my hat for breakfast, and then head downtown to start a riot.
  14. Couple good vids from @DanielGScouting that highlight Rathbone’s defensive ability: Everyone knows about Jack’s skating, big shot, and offensive ability, but I don’t think everyone appreciates just how solid he is defensively (or how physical he plays). Easy to see why the Canucks are itching to get this kid inked to an ELC. If and when we get Rathbone signed, I would not be the least bit surprised if he earns a roster spot out of his first NHL camp.