TheHitman

GLORIOUS

Jinders a Lames fan tho 

@Spoderman Sorry about that, forgot about the whole spoilers thing. 

Yeah but with the new lottery system is rebuilding by tanking even a thing anymore? Canucks have gotten royally shafted by this new system.

If you have a good GM with a good scouting department then rebuilding with a few top 5 picks is very doable.  You just won't end up with a quick shortcut like the Oilers did with McDavid and the Leafs will most likely end up getting with Matthews if he continues to improve.

I think if you get a top 5 pick next year you will get a very good player. Having Dahlin would be nice though.

Senators only because I want to see a team win that doesn't have oodles of 1st overall picks....

Win da turd (round) Burr!! 

yes! #winitforburr

@Tom SestitoEven if hes paced to get 40 points Baer still hasn't done it. We can't say Boeser has scores 30 goals even though his pace says he could last season.

And Baer is more developed of a player than Virtanen

A 29-goal season with 60-someodd games played is a 30-goal season.

12/20/32, IMO.

This team is not a good team.

First off, I strongly disagree with your view on Eller--in fact, I'd say he's become one of the best bargain deals in the league.  He brings a lot at only $3.5Mper--a perfect veteran 3C who can move up to a 2C in an emergency and his offence is still getting incrementally better. 

And if the Canucks (or anyone else) took on Orpik's salary, then they'd have the cap space to keep both Wilson and Carlson (re-signing Carlson from $4M to $7M would be and additional $3M, Wilson might warrant a raise from $1M or so).

If Wilson is to be traded, it will be for significant futures as I stated originally.

All that said, I think if we're patient with Virtanen, we'll have a player with similar attributes, minus the nasty Wilson brings.

@Undrafted What do you think the Caps would offer in a potential Orpik cap dump? Beck Malenstyn was a player the Canucks were looking at and hoping to pick if he reached the Jakub Stukel pick. Not sure the Capitals would give up a guy like that.

Honestly, I don't know much about the Caps farm or prospects, so I couldn't say--I just watch their games on a regular basis with my friends.  I rely on them to pass on news about organizational stuff and that name hasn't come up at all.

If I were to wildly guess what their GM might do, it'd likely be trying to convince one or both of Carlson and Wilson to take a hometown discount.  Carlson might bite if they give him the 8th year; Wilson might agree to a 1-yr deal with the assurance that he'd get paid the year after, once Orpik's deal is off the books.  Both players seem to genuinely want to stay with the organization.

Bergevin needs a time machine to fix the Habs.

Julien's the real problem in Montreal.  Not only are his deployment decisions terrible, he's 's also a pitiful excuse for a human being.  Terrible decision to hire that scumbag.  WD was an idiot, but at least he was an alright guy off the ice.

During his time in Montreal, were Kassian and Chucky teammates?

No choice.  Play him until he can be dumped onto another team.  It's too soon to waive him.  His dead cap hit would last to long if he was waived this year or next.

the man clearly needs a raise

then he'll improve his game

I'm reminded of the following goodfellas movie scene whenever I think of Eriksson (whether he has a good or bad game):

Now the guy's got Paulie as a partner. Any problems, he goes to Paulie. Trouble with the bill? He can go to Paulie. Trouble with the cops, deliveries, Tommy, he can call Paulie. But now the guy's gotta come up with Paulie's money every week, no matter what. Business bad? "**** you, pay me." Oh, you had a fire? "**** you, pay me." Place got hit by lightning, huh? "**** you, pay me." Also, Paulie could do anything. Especially run up bills on the joint's credit. And why not? Nobody's gonna pay for it anyway. And as soon as the deliveries are made in the front door, you move the stuff out the back and sell it at a discount. You take a two hundred dollar case of booze and you sell it for a hundred. It doesn't matter. It's all profit. And then finally, when there's nothing left, when you can't borrow another buck from the bank or buy another case of booze, you bust the joint out

Eriksson had a great game?  Loui says, I don't care, **** you pay me.

Eriksson had a bad game?  Loui says, I don't care, **** you pay me.

Team is in a tight cap crunch?  Loui says, I don't care, **** you pay me.

Note that the Bleacher report article was written in 2012, before Hank had 1000 points and before he was even was the all-time Canucks leader in points.

To answer @TheHitman's question, the Sedins sit at 6th and 8th in points since 2000, with Daniel being the closest player to 1000 points in that era, meaning 7 players have hit the 1000-point mark since 2000-01.

I'd put Toews, Kane, Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Getzlaf, and maybe Carter ahead of them.

@S'all Good Man That list is so bad smh.

oh i didnt watch the last few minutes since i switched to the jets game. thatll be a pretty huge hole o.o

You're the only one who keeps bringing it up, so maybe other people don't see it as suspension worthy?

Need a reverse angle of that hit because it's nearly impossible to tell how much head contact there was from that view.

I don't see what the issue is with the ban since it's the players, not mgmt or coaches, who initiated it and agreed to it.

Yeah, it’d be thing if this no video games policy was an edict from someone like Lamoriello but the players are the ones buying into this.

Some of the regular Fortniters on the team (Boeser, Pettersson, Stecher) have already commented that they're fine with the policy.

McDiver vs Crybaby. Boring.......I'm just kidding.

I want to see a real rivalry in the Playoffs, there has not been a Finals that has been exciting to watch since the 2011 Finals. It is nice to see skill, speed, and goals, but it is entertaining to see hate, hits, some fights, with goals, skill, and some brawls for me.

Subban vs Ovi.  If you can't sell that fire your marketing dept.

And yeah, the Kunitz hit was dirty as hell.

@Tre Mac Even though I'm a Demko homer, I'm gonna guess that on a list made by a pro writer, they'll probably have Luukkonen cancelling him out considering that they were both considered the #1 Euro goalies of their classes.

@Alflives generational? No.

@Baer.

Quinn Hughes will prove to be the best player in his draft, and a unique - generational talent - who will lead us to at least three Cups.  

Petr Bondra hits a streaking Gonchar down the wing, hey that sounds like a band name streaking gonchar

Vesa Toskala with an enormous dic stick save

And he does so while wearing Sergio Momesso's old number 27

What stop by his left Khabi or was it his right bulin?

His NHL 2002/2003 stuff was great too. 

"Top shelf where mom keeps that sack of potatoes everybody seems to keep talking about"

"Wow Don, that was really incredible!"

"Then don't eat it!"

"I said incredible!"

"Oh"

"I'd rather get hit with a medicine ball in the face than take a hit like that!"

This is just off the top of my head. I spent so much time playing NHL 2002

Couldn't agree with you more. I hate the new coverage... it's brutal.

@goalie13 I think he's referring to 1 all star game. Not sure where the Phaneuf part comes from though.

@Down by the River Legendary moment in All Star Game history

@apollo watch the video that DBTR posted above.

Is Bo terrible defensively?

Meant in terms of importance to the organization.

Don't jinx him please. 

If he keeps up the play/pace he's currently on, if there is a team in desperate need of a offensive D that can munch a lot of minutes, I wouldn't think a late 1st is out of the question. If his play drops off, a 2nd or 3rd.

Maybe, but with our shallow pool on D, it might not be a bad idea to hold onto him for another season. Vanek, on the other hand, is doing exactly what he needs to to fetch a decent return at the deadline, and we have a pretty decent surplus of young forwards in our pool that could fill in. Maybe Gaudette slots in towards the end point of this season.

I say we try to trade Edler first, before Tanev or Del Zotto (unless we are offered some really good picks)

Oh, but to the OP- 

I'm not great with salary projections, but let's say it's a 3yr bridge for all those players:

Baer 2.8 - 3.25M,  Granny gets the same, Jake gets 1.75- 2M. Jake has a lot more to prove at this point 

If Baertschi (35) and Grandlund (32) have repeat seasons point wise, based on league comparables (age, position, points, games)

Granlund 3 years @ $2-$2.5M AAV

Comparable: Hyman (4x2.25)

Baertschi 4 years @ $4.0M AAV

Comparable: Boedker (4x4)

Virtanen, at this point is impossible to predict. Maybe close to Josh Anderson or Andreas Athanasiou. Not really any players that have had the same first 3 years.

I suspect Baertschi will get ~45 points this year. Granlund doesn't seem like he'll get the opportunities to score goals like he did last year with the Sedins.

Goldy should be up by the trade deadline when Vanek gets traded/waived.

i think archi should be given a good long hard look before the the nucks are sitting at 10-1-1

I've also thought that Jalen Chatfield has looked really good too despite not putting up any points. Won't be shocked to see Chatfield up with the Canucks some point this season.

granlund bo boeser

baerstchi sutter ericksson

sedin sedin dahlen

labate cramarosa goldobin

virtanen

in 2 years

granlund bo boeser

dahlen glass ericksson

virtanen sutter gaudette

goldobin

I want to see what the team looks like in preseason.

If we get Glass/ Vilardi and they look promising let them play....

But for now

Baerstchi- Horvat - Boeser

Grandlund/ Goldobin- Suter- Ericksson

Sedin- Sedin- Grandlund/ Goldobin

If the Sedins don't click, Split them between the 2nd and 3rd lines

Arbitration please.

He's a great skater, tough, 6'5" 220, and broke his and on a TO players face. At this stage of the teams development lets get chintzy on a potential franchise guy. 

S'all, he proved nothing this year. Even pre-Martin I was concerned at his lack of physicality for a big dude and it's not like his outlet pass was making up for it. He wasn't actually using his size, rarely finished his checks and wasn't all that nasty to crease crashers / screeners. 

I see no reason he should get more than a soft bridge contract, or arbitration. Dude was asking for $5m+ out of Florida.. no thanks.

That's just the NHL working tirelessly in order to deliver you a better product. 

Just be thankful that they actually have a youtube channel now and you don't have to access their crappy website for highlights.

Thank you! 

Tryamkin stated today he does wish to return back. I say in the future once Hutton, Tanev, or Edler leave he will return.

@Tigs You don't think Florida would do it?

Blegh, no Doughty. I'd take Hedman though.

They ended in second place, one point behind Canada, in the qualifying round.  They just happened to choke hard in their first elimination game.  It also doesn't help that all of the vets keep saying "hell no" when asked to play.  They end up getting stuck with the young guys.  A player like Patrick Kane would come in handy.

They've done well recently at the U18 and U20 Worlds, but for some reason can't get their act together at the senior men's Worlds.

It depends. None of the US veterans bother to show up for the World Championships like Sabrefan said. That's on Team USA.

In the past few Olympics though they haven't selected their best talent. It worked out for them in Vancouver but not so much this past Olympics.

Their thinking has always been that if they take some meat and potatoes players to go along with a few stars they can challenge Canada better than if they went with their best talent. Last time that strategy failed miserably. I think they would have a much better team next year though.

if we are gonna be in fantasyland anyway

why not him and karlsson

solid high talent pairing

If we could negotiate a deal with Carlson beforehand and then trade for him right after...

WSH: Tanev + Goldobin

VAN: Carlson (signed at a 7x7 extension)

OVie or BUST !

@Wilbur Sounds to me like Shaw feed is going to have a lot of people complaining tonight.

Daniel finally gets his 1000th and Shaw screws it up. That's one timeless moment we won't get back. Thanks Shaw.

@48MPHSlapShot Sucks, hopefully they recoup some of the fans some how...