lucky_nucker

Why do you think the mandates should stay?

I never said I wanted the feds to anything. I said I want to see the end of these mandates.

Not the basis at all. Ending mandates is the basis of my argument.

Nah, I said I was wrong about it being the biggest protest in history. My mistake. Ignoring the cost to these mandates is crazy though, and that is my point.

I am not a liar. I can admit though, maybe I am wrong about it being the largest protest in Canadian history. I don't know. That is not really the important detail about this protest though. This protest is about ending all covid mandates and ending the damage that those mandates are inflicting.

I don't have the right to choose for anyone other than myself. Everyone should be allowed to choose what is best for themselves. I cannot make a choice in your situation as it is two people deserving of medical care. I don't know how these difficult choices are made, but I sure hope is not based on discrimination like you are calling for.

I am not sure what part of what I said is untrue? This is largest protest in Canadian history and it is very significant, with the goal being to end covid mandates. What is false there? Of course human life is worth the justification, I am not sure what we do to fix the ICU bed problem. Maybe we expand our capacity if possible? But how can you not recognize the costs to these mandates as well?

I don't know. Two very sick people that both need medical care. But we live in a country where people are allowed to choose what is best for themselves right or wrong. I hope that never changes. Picking out not getting a Covid vaccine among all other detrimental health choices is not correct or honest.

Well, these are people that need medical help and our healthcare system is based on the fundamental principle that everyone is free to access medical care. I am not really sure about your drinking/liver replacement example being true or valid to be honest, as I have never heard of that situation before. But it is not really the same thing. Nobody chooses to catch Covid. People end up in the hospital all the time making choices that were poor for their health. We decided that we would come together as a country to support all people when they needed this help. Changing that now seems wrong. Healthcare is already one of our leading costs and we have accepted to pay that. Their is no guarantee that this high cost you foresee even happens. Again most people are already vaxxed or have recovered from Covid hopefully mitigating any further costs to our healthcare system.

Same as it is now, Canadian taxpayer. Why would we start discriminating who receives hospital care? That seems exactly counter to what our healthcare philosophy is based on.

Fair enough, although to add a bit more I would also state that this is the biggest protest in Canadian history. That is important to note as it signifies that many people see something wrong happening right now. I think the viewpoint on what this protest is more or less based on is pretty straightforward. It now makes sense to end all Covid mandates and lockdowns. There have been costs to implementing these measures that may or may not have been worth it earlier in the Pandemic, but now we are the point where the costs do not justify these measures any longer.

This is a historic protest, people the same as you and I are protesting because they think something is wrong. Perhaps you should pause for a minute to consider their viewpoint?

Okay.

They are protesting peacefully. This is what the democratic process is supposed to entail.

I have. Chipping in $20 - $50 is doable for many.

The reality is most Canadians are sick of these mandates. People like you, that hate make me sad.

I suppose, but I think it is pretty obvious that most of the donations are from normal Canadians.

Freedom Convoy 2022 Go Fund me is now over $9 million in contributions. This is supported by a great many Canadians that are done with these destructive, divisive mandates. People can keep trying to ignore or misrepresent what this protest is about, but the reality is your fellow Canadians want these mandates ended.

Nice nit pick, got anything else? Be truthful though, did you even consider reading this article with an open mind?

https://www.juliusruechel.com/2022/01/our-side-of-story-my-autonomy-is-not.html Worth reading with an open mind.

Kids not being able to function socially or having socialization inhibited is a huge problem, as well as being in a state on constant fear. I see one group piling on top of another here, needlessly. I guess we will see, but the effects of what we have done to the economy will not present themselves immediatley. The USD is devalued too. Nope, never expected it to be a cake walk, but ignoring the damage caused by the implemented measures is foolish.

Getting stuck in dangerous groupthink. Where there is only 1 valid way of thinking and anything else is deemed wrong.

We are past that point of the hospitals being overrun. We now have the pandemic under control.

So far that has not come close to materializing.

Why not?