ha ha yeah.......just a bit!!! anyone who has watched United properly over the past couple of seasons would know we are a team in need of a major overhaul, we won our last couple of Championships because the rest of the league was so poor. You only need to look at the Champions League to see how far back we have gone. We are a quarter final team at best in that competition. The encouraging thing for this season, in the league at least, is we are not that far behind when to be fair, we should already be dead and buried. City and all their spending are no better, Chelsea are a disaster waiting to happen with the not so special anymore one at the helm.....I think they forgot they sacked him and his handling of Mata....their player of the year for the last 2 years is a shambles and as for Liverpool......Brenda is so deluded its untrue, Sturidge and Suarez the top strike partnership in the league? Don't make me laugh.....maybe, once either of them has actually won something then we can start to take them seriously. I still think Suarez will go, probably in January. While on the subject of the scousers, I was at the league cup game last week, in the lower tier of the East stand, directly below the tramps and with about 20 minutes left a flare, thrown from the top tier, shot passed me at shoulder height, missing by about a foot.....hit the concrete stairwell wall in front of me, bounced and hit a bloke there with his 11 year old son......from there on, the rest of the match, they were throwing coins, bottles, smoke bombs and anything else they could get their hands on. A good few people were hit and hurt in our section of the stand and they wonder why they have the reputation they do........Liverpool FC, offended by everything, ashamed of nothing......the city of self pity, always the victim, never their fault