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Poolman, Hunt, and Burroughs won't be here next season so see what happens with the new players.

We need another schenn with a bit more skill, a cpl of bigger tougher wingers and a 3rd line tough fast center and we're there. Nothing new though.. and with depth but we'll only have a limited amount of that to cover injuries so we're really close BUT a lot of variables that we have no idea yet but who knows, maybe it'll happen. Doesn't seem like JR is willing to sell the farm for a thin playoff team and that's quite the switch from the entire history of the Canucks show... Stay tuned!!

Nah he's in payday mode and I'm sure he doesn't mind being in Vancouver or he'd have already asked for a trade when we tanked for the first half of the season. It's a toss up but hopefully he stays. His D game isn't the best and sometimes costly mistakes and that's a thing that can be used in negotiations but expect JR to lighten up cap space for a good raise or I guess trade but either way, we win in the end because we'd get a good return. Benning rocked the show on that steal!

You'd want a big sandpaper player for that line, would be targeted for sure. This is why JR needs to be wise with his signings and toughen us up to be with the right players who need it when the playoffs begin. We don't need a lot but like he said "some" is necessary! The right some is another matter...

I'm shocked with Komisarek being signed, the guys got balls the size of King Kong taking on Lucic and getting his a$$ handed to him but he'd take on ANYONE.. That's surprising, especially since your team has been soft as butter for the majority of it's existence. Hope it rubs off on the players when it comes time to stand up for each other, can never have enough of that. Especially guys who are built for the corner battles we need to win a lot more of as well. We need all the help we can get! If we had that when we took on Boston as in our roster WITH depth would have won us the cup...

That's not true.. and you don't have to spend bigtime money on it. Lots of quality coaching out there to be had for reasonable. The supply far out weighs the demand and guys out of work because of it. So in the end JR and AL already got this by being in the business as long as they have and I'm sure they know more than their share of people for the job who work for reasonable $

That depends where you get it from, some have 6'2.. others have his weight at 184 (ish).. I'm not sure he will get taller but if anything he will gain a bit of muscle weight and fill out is about his only thing he might win from working on but not THAT necessary, 180 at 6'1 isn't a bad weight but 190 I think for him would be perfect and come in handy for corner battles etc.

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From watching his highlights, he knows where to be to be open for passes and good at finishing and can snipe like Petey by a laser beam wrist shot. However like Petey he's going to have to learn to do it quicker and not let sticks or bodies get in the way and the goalie time to get set. Pretty good trade for Dahlen, quite the upgrade!

I hope and I'm sure it will happen, when the next game Brock is scheduled to play in that there will be a memorial of some sort in the pre-game with a lot of tears but hopefully a smile on Brock's face too that so many hearts are with him. THAT I'm sure will bring a smile to Duke looking down at Brock so proud of his son! Yes Duke, there's so much to be proud of him for, rest in peace!

My dad went Father's day morning of all days... Feeling it deep for Brock right now, there are no words for it.

It's actually a balance of both analysis and variables and the actual answer lies somewhere in the middle but analysis doesn't always show the big picture as it doesn't take into the variables well at all, especially when a player has intangibles for instance, for us, a good example if Myers, for him analysis is everything but his importance of size that's an intangible and factors in, in whatever degree but that's all only one example, but others like who are linemates, what systems are run, what kind of players are they geared towards.. etc etc.. so at the end of the day, I think whoever balances both well has a pretty good shot at success.

No it was family issues and he runs a Jr league team and something else had something to do with it, can't remember it but it was 3 things and none of it to do with the Canucks except for being far from TO where his elderly mom lives.

Yeah I hated the Rat days of Brad, but I wish times during the season they have given back at least "something" to say I'll skate away if it's minor OR slash you if it's major, in essence to say don't F around or else!! Yeah they were tough from being in shape but also admitted playing hurt at times which a lot do yes but injuries caused by dirty hits could have been prevented or at least some of them which would have come by a message sent but never was sent so it kept going, if we'd have made the playoffs, Miller, Petey, Brock, Bo, Garland all would have been open season and I certainly didn't want to see that with limited amount of pushback available so it was good to hear that JR has his sandpaper plans moving forward because we will need it when things move to another level where players will do that kind of Sedin treatment to anyone to win. It truly does have to end...

That's not a "instead of" that was a contributing factor. The real problem was not putting another Anson Carter with them, we had that in Bert but he was needed with Naz so it never happened but it shows how important grit really is to balance skill but it doesn't end there, it's all well and good but unless it's provided with solid younger depth who are breaking into the roster has to be there to because there's always injuries, sickness, or suspensions. In the end, without depth you end up like us after the Bruin's. (At best) At worst 1st round exits is worse than not making it at all. Nothing worse than to get teased and your hopes up and then.. (well every Canucks fan in franchise history knows how that goes)! However we're close to having that for a change and I'm still in shock that management wants to address both issues, toughness and depth along with D, which I'm pretty sure JR will address after the draft and sign contracts that mature around the time their ready, 2-3 years for most and I'm sure D will be targeted heavily. Demko and Martin have G wrapped up for quite awhile so just tougher along with D and we could be in for some fun for a change! And it's not as if we don't have trade bait so who knows... ;). GCG!

I don't think we have to go that far as the Op says but not Mr nice guys like the Twins either, look how that went... Fun to watch in the regular season but when it gets tough.. not so much..

That was back in the 50-60's here when you didn't get paid a whole lot to play hockey... Anyway, yeah I have what I need and a little bit more but that just means I can share and not be hurt by it which wouldn't be the end of the world but then again, I'm not about living in a mansion, but not homeless either, comfortable safe and warm and a place I can work is all I need, my part time job is buying and selling from auctions and I work part time and will never be rich again BUT I'll have had more time for me, which at the end of the day, my time is coming to an end and since I have no idea what day that's coming, time for me Is far more valuable than money, some is necessary yes BUT certainly matters not when the clock stops ticking right? Shrugs...

Well let's just take Petey and Hughes, why not sign for a lousy few million less a season? If only! I wish but not everyone makes money with their money, your going to chuckle but I do the same thing on a much smaller scale BUT I know what to make to put my toe as close to the tax law as I can get but when it involves millions and like I said, not everyone would be remotely interested in taking less and even stranger is one step further is if also go the McKinnon route, I mean I could comfortably live on a ton less that a average player makes in a year for the rest of my life but sir, over here on this side of the pond, $ rules and only a few exceptions of us who don't want more than we need. In my way of thinking, I love hockey and if it was me I'm not sure just because if I wanted millions to play and certain regular people couldn't afford to watch a live game of a really good hockey team playing, I doubt I could do it. But that's just me, otherwise it boils down to the almighty dollar for whoever so it is what it is...

Selling investment property? Dude look up Canadian tax AND capital gains tax 50%.. seriously by the time you pay a agent, fees, income tax it equals to a LOT and not every player makes massive dollars where it makes those to examples even worse. I used to own a trucking co and got hosed and it wasn't even anywhere near what some players make. Seriously go on a income tax calculator and start feeding in say 3,000,000 and go up, your mouth will drop I assure you and add a pretty hefty agent cut on top of that which they have to pay like anyone else, the more it is the bigger it is, 30-35% wouldn't be a stretch. Trust me when I tell you income tax being the main driver is a LOT less that the USA and that's where the buck stops. Period... I'd compare even on taxes in Canada from province to province but the federal tax is always there too, when your premier like b.c.'s before is voted the Alberta business man of the year from all the b.c. businesses up and moved to Alberta because of the lower taxes.. c'mon dude this has got so much to do with it but your writing it off as nothing.. this is typical of Canadian fans who think it's just that easy that players want to give a huge discount so your reply doesn't surprise me. Unless your a exemption from the rule like McKinnon, it's not realistic.

Well thing is, what JB tried to do even with Tryamkin is on D where it has to be tough as well, his theory and mine match and I was all smiles when Train arrived and JB was trying to match a BIG stay at home D paired with a small faster PMD who could either pass OR take the puck himself, I forgot about Guddy but both acquisitions IF they'd have worked out is what each line needs. Hughes with Myers or someone big to take on if someone decided to do a Sedin trick in the playoffs and run out smaller guys, that would toughen us up on D and at least one hard noses physical player on the bigger side, every good line has a bigger power forward, a triggerman and a sniper. Like Gretz, kurry, and Mess. Trotz, Bossy and Gillies... Prime examples.

As much as you don't like it, taxes play a major part and nothing to do with property taxes, income tax, go look up you 60 million like you mentioned and tell me what the amount is in Canada AND the USA too. Fantasy hockey? I'm sure Taxes are included on that right? And btw , there's so many variables that sims can replicate.

That's actually not my point, every team in Canada has to over pay usually, not all but usually and it's all about taxes and if your paying in the USA or Canada makes a huge difference, we're lucky that we even got some unpaid time out of him, I mean unpaid as in not big bucks but ELC's is exactly what this team needs if we're going to pay big money elsewhere in the line-up and we surely will. I can't believe we got Demko locked in for his salary, that was one of the best moves JB ever pulled off, especially in the next few years as salaries climb, even OEL will look like a bargain on the books in 2-3 years, top pairing D will be in pretty big demand right behind goalies and of course you know that doesn't go anywhere but up. Anyway cap management work in the middle of all this sure wouldn't be easy, glad it's not my job.

You forget where hedman and Hughes are playing so it's not that fair of an assessment.

I can't help but think of Ferland at 25 in the bubble with us, I can only imagine, how Green got them into overachieving mode would have seen the monster inside that guy, can't count the times he's taken over games and especially us when he pinned his ears back. That's the kind of players we need, skilled with killer instinct and able to finish of checks and shots into goals and make it look easy. I knew only injuries could stop him. How many times did I go (oh F!) Heads up boys!! And then do a head shake when he scored more often than not. Again, usually against us.

I don't see Tree going anywhere since his size does matter especially since that's a Canucks need besides "sandpaper" as we needed in Rous etc when JB finally caught on to exactly how rough a run in the bigger physical division of ours but the best out there at the time and hopefully we can do it again but not getting injured and throwing a wrench into things so JR mentioned it but to what degree can he pull it off with what will be available to him is the big question but hopefully we get there and depth for it too... Fingers crossed!