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  1. I guess we'll have to disagree on that. I think your profit-only view is a low standard for an owner of a professional sports team. Gary's old co-workers in the NBA would agree with this.
  2. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I have a friend who is in the same boat as you - ex in the US trying to prevent the kids from coming back here. But child abuse, man. Tbh, my own first response to the original article was, "possibly nothing more than just a cash grab", but then I encountered the CBC article, and I was like, "crap, that's bad." Defenseless kids fearing for their lives. I didn't grow up in this country, and in my country, I got spanked with a leather belt more than a few times, but I never feared for my life. I love my Dad and always felt that the punishment I got was well-deserved for what I did.
  3. Oh definitely, this is not about that. A good chunk of the posts here have also been about the Aquilini's leadership and worthiness of being an owner. So this is relevant to that conversation.
  4. Wow. Just saw the following post - I didn't realize the Aquilinis have had a lot of controversy over the years: 1983 - Slumlords who raised rents by up to 100% on tenants causing homeless seniors. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/flashback-15-years-ago-25-years-ago/article17975765/ 2006 - Screwed over Gaglardi to buy the team. https://thehockeynews.com/news/francesco-aquilini-purchases-remaining-50-per-cent-of-canucks-from-john-mccaw 2011 - Charged with diverting river water to their farms unlawfully, killing thousands of fish. https://www.pressreader.com/canada/vancouver-sun/20110310/282690453698971 2011, 2012, and 2018 - Fined for having unsafe transport vehicle for temp. farm workers. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-canucks-owners-fined-again-for-unsafe-vehicle-at-family-s-berry-operation-1.5136249 2017 - #2 biggest political lobbyists in the province. https://commonground.ca/big-money-corrupts-politics/ 2017 - Stiffed their Google partner on a contract and lost the subsequent lawsuit. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/aquilini-investment-group-ordered-to-pay-us600000-for-contract-breach 2017 - Two kids of workers at their vineyard died after a fire, where the mobile homes allegedly had no smoke detectors and improper electrical. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/aquilini-companies-deny-negligence-in-suit-over-deaths-of-2-children-at-their-u-s-vineyard-1.5331369 2019 - Cheated on their taxes, declaring just 51k in income per brother, before being reassessed at $11.5m/each. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/aquilini-family-lose-appeal-in-federal-tax-court-to-offset-capital-gains-in-deal-to-buy-nhl-team 2019 - Stole wages from temp. workers on their farms. Denied them water breaks. https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2019/05/28/at-aquilini-owned-blueberry-farm-we-lived-the-saddest-part-of-our-lives-says-one-temporary-foreign-worker-of-15-who-allege-poor-working-conditions-cramped-accommodations-intimidation-and-threats.html 2019 - Fell behind on child support. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/owner-of-vancouver-canucks-taken-to-court-over-child-support-1.4382959
  5. That's what I thought so at first, but there are ways - character witnesses showing how well you took care of your kids, knowing the timeline of when the alleged assault happened and proving you're not there, lie detector test, getting call records of the alleged time when the child supposedly phoned the Mom, etc. Oh, and in this case, you have multiple accusers corroborating each other. If it were only the wife or only one of the kids, then maybe you give him the benefit of the doubt, but all of them agreeing on the same incident?
  6. Come on, man. What about the part about not giving any evidence denying the child abuse allegations in the affidavit - is that a joke too? Maybe you should go back to your Twitter account, Francesco?
  7. Can we all just agree that if the detailed abuse allegations are true, then Francesco Aquilini deserves the worst? To the pro-Aquilini crowd, are you guys ok with this?
  8. No university would require that (I hope), but if I really want to go crazy (e.g., if I'm in the medical field and want to have the best possible chance), I can easily accumulate tens of thousands of software cost. It's pretty crazy how expensive some of these software are - especially computer graphics-related, animation-related.
  9. Some very specialized software can easily cost you a ton of money. It all depends on what field you're in.
  10. I understand that time argument as well. The best guess I can offer is that the Mom wanted to protect the kids (they were still so young in 2013) or she was scared of what the Dad could do to them. I'm sure Gary Bettman (who used to be in the NBA) is very concerned about this - as can be seen by the intense reaction, this is a bad look for the NHL ownership club. Unlike what happened with the Phoenix Suns where there were many witnesses this case is a bit different since it's a family affair. So how far any independent investigator can get will depend on the cooperation of all the parties involved. We should get a statement from him soon. Unfortunately, our players and coaches are about to get asked a lot of questions about this. I suspect that a lot of them are privately already demanding an explanation from Francesco - who probably is denying the accusations. I expect that those players who have doubts will be affected by this, unfortunately, in their on-ice performance as that's just human nature when the accusations about your owner are this bad.
  11. You've underscored my point - there are fans of different stripes here. It's not an easy decision for the mods, I would think.
  12. How old were the kids when they admitted to lying? In this case, the kids are already adults and are doing well mentally and have promising futures. In fact, it sounds like the eldest actually is no longer able to get support money so money is no longer a factor. So the coercion excuse doesn't seem like it holds much water here, no?
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