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  1. Brisebois is going to be a solid player. He likely won't put up big offensive numbers but I predict he will be a "Tanev level" player. Perfect player to pair with a Stecher, Subban and/or Joulevi.
  2. You could argue that the Canucks are waiting and evaluating with half of their roster. They have some young interesting players currently on the roster - I don't think anyone would disagree with the fact that those players will need to take significant steps this year in order for the Canucks to compete; however, when was the last time this franchise had those types of players on the NHL roster and guys like Boeser, Demo and Juolevi a year or two away from joining them. While they don't have the McDavid, Matthews or Crosby type of player, they seem to be acquiring solid prospects in quantity...if they can build a solid team top to bottom, multiple pieces can be used to acquire (or overpay for) top end talent at the right time. In a bubble, I agree the Eriksson signing is tough to swallow but he was signed for the Sedins and the Canucks should maximize the last few years of their careers. Hopefully the Canucks have a top line centre in two years that can play with Eriksson (whether it be a new player or Horvat replacing Hank). On the surface, it looks like Benning is making quick moves but there is a solid foundation being created. Hindsight is 20/20 and HOPEFULLY Benning comes out smelling like roses...if Benning was simply trading to add pieces, without any consideration for building a solid foundation (across the franchise) I might not be as optimistic but I see the light at the end of the tunnel and it seems a lot closer than a lot of franchises that have tried, failed, screwed up, etc. their "rebuilds". End of the day, I hope they play hard and give us a good show...I think this team will.
  3. I agree with that line-up. I think the Canucks need to stick with Burrows and really focus on playing the young guys in the bottom six. Some things will definitely need to go right for the team to get into the playoffs but that line-up will compete (and hopefully surprise).
  4. Agree, Benning is definitely looking for guys who have the extra skill to score on NHL goalies
  5. Definitely think it is more than two more years. Likely sign one year deals after current contract (to play one or two more years).
  6. To save you some pain, don't even bother trying facts or rational arguments, there is no reasoning with him.
  7. 10 years of basement dwelling only to luck out and get McDavid. Good for them but no thanks. Benning's record speaks for itself and his first two drafts have yielded quality players. But like the Oilers, if he fails on draft day then the team will fail as well...all posters are saying is that we like the teams chances with Benning calling the shots on draft day (especially considering that the Canucks record looked worse than the Oilers for previous 15 years before Benning). Honestly though, you just change around arguments to fit your point of view...I wrote picks "past the second round" and you cherry pick the fact that the Oilers haven't had a second round pick for the last three years haha. Here are their results: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00005632.html Every year the Oilers are picked to turn things around and it never happens. I agree that if anyone can change that, it would be McDavid but that is a long time to suffer just to put the entire teams hopes on one 19 year old. I played rugby for the Canadian Jrs and in the UK and its ironic because your stubborn, absolutist mentality on these boards certainly reminds me of a number of the coaches I played for...shows you why rugby is a joke in this country.
  8. Agreed but my hope is that TL has significant sway in terms of limiting reactionary influence from ownership.
  9. Fair argument but people have been making that claim for 10 years about the Oilers, Winnipeg/Atlanta, etc. but with Benning's overall drafting ability, and the drafting/development framework they have set up, you never know what could happen. Teams like the Oilers and Maple Leafs might end up with higher first round picks (that do more damage) but if they can't draft NHL players past the second round, it likely won't mean much.
  10. I totally agree, I think he has done a good job so far and his work will look even better in 2 years. I posted this in a previous thread but think it is relevant here. I find it funny why so many people continue to claim Benning does not have a plan (or that the plan is unclear - to be fair mostly TSN employees haha). I get that many believe the team should break everything down and rebuild but that is a lot different than not having a clear plan (a claim Benning is constantly accused of). From my perspective, Benning isn't trying to speed up the process just to speed up the process, he is attempting to build a solid foundation of 21 to 27-year-old players. That foundation will then serve as the supporting cast to the next generation of high end players Benning is confident he can pick in the draft. I love his confidence when it comes to drafting (because drafting is what determines success or failure) and have no problem with his methods so far. I think it is important to consider where the Canucks were two years ago. It is also important to understand that more often than not GMs need to overpay to get NHL players and Benning (over the last two years) has been in a position where he has needed NHL players...as time goes on, he won't need to overpay anymore because there won't be a massive void of players in that key age bracket (the 21 to 27 age range). Most importantly he won't have to overpay to retain culture guys like Sbisa and Dorsett. I think it is also important to note that it will be a lot easier to move players in the 25 to 29-year-old age range compared to the 31+ year-olds that made up the roster when Benning took over (i.e. Benning will have a lot more flexibility in the upcoming years). Plus that depth will allow the new draft picks to develop at the right speed...won't need to rush them if they are not ready. Benning is slowly but surely building the foundation for the next generation of Canucks and if they can get into the playoffs on a regular basis, then who knows...regardless, hopefully it is a fun ride.
  11. The way the kid (and his agent) are acting doesn't give you a real good feeling. He could have gone to Nashville, a great franchise, and made a name for himself but decided to create a circus...good on him for doing his thing but not sure that is the type of guy you want in your dressing room (Hodgson 2.0).
  12. I agree, I think he has done a good job so far and his work will look even better in 2 years. I find it funny why so many people continue to claim Benning does not have a plan (or that the plan is unclear - to be fair mostly TSN employees haha). I get that many believe the team should break everything down and rebuild but that is a lot different than not having a clear plan (a claim Benning is constantly accused of). From my perspective, Benning isn't trying to speed up the process just to speed up the process, he is attempting to build a solid foundation of 21 to 27-year-old players. That foundation will then serve as the supporting cast to the next generation of high end players Benning is confident he can pick in the draft. I love his confidence when it comes to drafting (because drafting is what determines success or failure) and have no problem with his methods so far. I think it is important to consider where the Canucks were two years ago. It is also important to understand that more often than not GMs need to overpay to get NHL players and Benning (over the last two years) has been in a position where he has needed NHL players...as time goes on, he won't need to overpay anymore because there won't be a massive void of players in that key age bracket (the 21 to 27 age range). Most importantly he won't have to overpay to retain culture guys like Sbisa and Dorsett. I think it is also important to note that it will be a lot easier to move players in the 25 to 29-year-old age range compared to the 31+ year-olds that made up the roster when Benning took over (i.e. Benning will have a lot more flexibility in the upcoming years). Plus that depth will allow the new draft picks to develop at the right speed...won't need to rush them if they are not ready. Benning is slowly but surely building the foundation for the next generation of Canucks and if they can get into the playoffs on a regular basis, then who knows...regardless, hopefully it is a fun ride.
  13. I am definitely on board with what management is doing. They have rebuilt the goalie depth (after the disaster that was the Canucks goalie situation in Gillis' last two years) and they are on their way to rebuilding the defence. Obviously the next stage is the top six forward (long-term) group. The main thing is they have added a group of young players (21 - 26-year old age group) that are now on the NHL team...as a result, they no longer have to push the really young prospects too quickly. Guys like Olli can take their time and join the show when they are truly ready. Also, Benning is actually drafting well so the organization's overall depth is way better (after only two years).
  14. Great point, regular season success and playoff success are two different things. I definitely think Benning is trying to build a team that wins in the playoffs...they just need to get there.
  15. On the flip side, I don't think you can take the above info and conclude that tanking was the sole reason those teams won. There are too many other variables and too many other teams that have tanked and failed miserably. Overall, not many people would disagree with you on the fact that those three teams played the tank perfectly - in that they happened to suck at the right time and also picked the right players or the right players fell into their laps (i.e. by right players, I mean players who are leaders and win in the playoffs). In the case of Chicago and LA, those two teams draft very well now - no matter where they pick in the draft. Pit happened to suck (and get the 1st overall picks) when Crosby and Malkin were available - timing is everything. For every team that tanked and did well there are a bunch of teams that have been tanking and failing. Most importantly, they suck at drafting but they also have poor management. I don't see why good drafting (regardless of position) and a decent management team can't get a team to the finals. Teams that I would consider tankers and their playoff records: Oilers 10 seasons since playoffs Florida 19 seasons without a playoff series win (missed playoffs all but 4 seasons) Colorado 8 seasons without a playoff series win (missed playoffs all but two seasons) Columbus 15 seasons have never won a playoff series (missed playoffs all but two seasons) Atlanta/Winnipeg 16 seasons without a playoff series win (missed playoffs all but two seasons) Buffalo 9 seasons without playoff series win (missed playoffs all but two seasons) Carolina 7 seasons since playoffs Mix of tanking and going for it despite horrible foundations Toronto 11 seasons without playoff series win (missed playoffs all but one season) At the end of the day, Benning is building a good foundation that will serve to develop the high end talent he believes he can draft. If he doesn't draft well, he will fail but if he does draft well (and make a few timely moves - trades, etc.) there is no reason why they can't get back to the finals.