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@canuktravella Would you take a guy like Shawn Thornton over the Sedins because he's won a cup? I specifically said achievements aside (cups, medals, wins, even personal awards) as they are affected by the team in front of him.

@canuktravella Also I wouldn't call me a homer as Scheider doesn't play for Van lol...

@Green Building Right now if I said Price or Lundqvist or Rask is the best goalie in the league you wouldn't say that's a stretch would you. Now just put Price or Lundqvist or Rask in Schneider's situation: If they were traded 3 years into their careers to New Jersey to play behind a bottom dwelling team that gets barely any news coverage, would they still be recognized as "the best?" 

In fact, in that case if I called them "the best" you'd be saying THAT's a stretch.

That being said I totally understand the usual person's point of view on this. A lot of stuff is being placed on achievements and Schneider doesn't have too many. 

And regarding being the "best in history," I do believe the best goalie in the NHL today, whoever it is, would most likely be the best in history (once again achievements aside), just due to the fact that today's goaltending is so much better than before.