Provost

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  1. That is a completely irrelevant rant that also makes no sense. The rosters provided are cap compliant and show we don't have to tear everything down even with the really strict constraints on trades/dumping money that I included. Go have a drink or take a walk, being cooped up is getting to you. If you don't want to participate in a thread aside from trying to hijack it with misplaced whinging, scroll by.
  2. Except that isn't true or realistic. He is good to go with no symptoms today, right now. He has no intention of retiring, as of everything we know right now he will be on our roster and at training camp next year. Any roster has to account for that and include his money on the books. Whether he lasts 1 game or 60 games, he is on the team and counts.
  3. I like it, but does the math still work out adding in the 50% Sutter retained, plus Luongo and Spooner's money as well as buried money for Baertschi? It seems like it adds up too high
  4. Stuck at home (like most everyone), and whiling away the time playing with the capfriendly GM tool. This thread is for a place to come up with your cap compliant roster, since so much is up in the air, an arbitrary framework needs to be in place so things aren't crazy all over the place and totally ridiculous like moving out all our bad contracts and replacing them with good ones Roster Rules: - Assume a completely flat cap the same as this year - Assume 1 compliance buyout - You can only trade one current roster player out and bring one in (so we don't see fantasy rosters with bunches of impossible moves) - You can sign any number of UFAs (though it is limited by not being able to move out a ton of guys based on the rule above) - You can sign any of our RFAs My kick at the can: - Buy out Eriksson - The one allowed trade is Virtanen plus non roster assets (as per the rules) for a young RHD like Severson who earns between $4-5.25 million and can play top 4 minutes - Bury Sutter if Ferland actually comes back, or have him as depth forward if Ferland ends up on LTIR again before the season starts - Keep Baertschi buried, bury Benn - Tanev and Motte not re-signed - Sign Markstrom, Tryamkin, MacEwan, Hoglander, Leivo, Stecher Miller-Petterson-Toffoli ($5.5 million x5 years) Pearson-Horvat-Boeser Hoglander-Gaudette ($1.25 million x2)-MacEwan ($1 million x2) Roussel-Beagle-Leivo ($1.75 million x2 years) Ferland/Sutter Hughes-Severson ($4.166 Edler-Stecher ($2.5 million x 2) Rafferty-Myers Tryamkin ($2 million x 3) Markstrom ($5.5 x4) Demko Total, approx $80.35 million which leaves some space for pushed ELCs from this year we probably have to fit in. The number includes the Luongo and Spooner money as well as the remaining buried cap hits from the veterans We have incorporated a couple young guys to develop, and have backups in Sutter, Ferland, and Benn in case the kids falter or fail out of training camp and need to be demoted We have lost useful players to free agency, but that is unavoidable with cap realities An excellent top two lines, with a 3rd "kid" line that will have energy and can also score, though they would need to be sheltered Veteran 4th line who should be able to be used defensively primarily in matchups that Horvat doesn't get Defence isn't really improved much, but a downward trending Tanev replaced by a much younger guy... Tryamkin and Rafferty are the wildcards for hopes of improvement over Benn/Fantenberg. There just isn't cap space to make the defence as good as it needs to be, so trying to hold the line is what I tried to do and hope to fix the defence in another year after we have seen what Rafferty and Tryamkin are and might have some more cap flexibility. Having Hoglander in the lineup is a bit aspirational and a nod to the fact we might have to try to outscore our defensive shortcomings and can't afford to have two defensive shut down lines.
  5. None at this point... if we can exit a few bodies then we can talk. Right now on defence is there anyone cheap available that will be better than giving Rafferty and Tryamkin a shot from internally? On forward we just don't have any spots at all. We have Sutter as a depth forward right now, and a guy like MacEwan ready for a spot that we don't have... and may even have a couple young guys pushing for spots next training camps like Hoglander and Lind.
  6. I didn't say he is only a #4... I said he is a top 4 D. If you look at where I slot him into our lineup in the OP... it is on a top pairing with Hughes. Top 4 doesn't mean how you rank guys. Hughes was on our 2nd pairing last year but no one was arguing he was a #4 guy. He would probably play 20-21 minutes a night in that role, as he wouldn't play on the top PP (maybe PP2) and Hughes would get more minutes and keep playing 25 minutes a night.
  7. I didn't forget him, unless we move out a lot of bodies there isn't a lot of space for him. Even if we do sign him it is because he is a cheap, good value guy who can play up and down the lineup. He is a guy that has never scored 15 goals or reached 25 points in a season in his entire NHL career. Pencilling him into a top 6 role would be massively risky. Signing him for under $2 million as a utility guy is fine... but getting better means guys get pushed out or down the lineup.
  8. You are missing the really key element is that it allows you to sign Boeser's replacement right away. You get a legit 1st line RW and a top 4D in return for a legit 1st line RW. There isn't the option of replacing a top 4 D for the same kind of cap hit even if you could find one.
  9. I would probably do that trade... but might try to have them take on a small bad contract like Baertschi (unless we get a couple buyouts so it doesn't matter). It gets to a point of really being worrying whether we win or not, they get the best player in the trade which means you probably lose. In this scenario though do you effectively add Toffoli into the equation because it means we get to sign him. It leaves us a bit of a hole for just one year until Podkolzin arrives for the RW. I don't know that Jake can be a full time 2nd liner... but it does shape up the lineup for the future. Miller-Petterson-Toffoli Pearson-Horvat-Virtanen Ferland/Hoglander-Gaudette-MacEwan Roussel-Beagle-Lind Motte-Sutter
  10. ?? New Jersey has its own pick that may be high enough to get a player that has the remotest outside chance of playing a meaningful role this upcoming season, and much more likely is two seasons away. The later picks are both conditional and they may not get them this year... even if they do, they aren't likely to arrive in the NHL anytime soon. As for losing defencemen... they traded them away and didn't lose them. If they think they are getting value for Severson, they take the deal just like any other team.
  11. Not really breaking out... he had a great stretch of about 6 weeks. He wasn't good early in the season and not good late in the season, and that great stretch gives him an incremental improvement year over year. 5 points in his past 18 games. 9 points in the first 25 games of the season 22 points in the middle 26 games of the season With all his history, I don't think he has earned the benefit of the doubt for that one stretch being what he is going to be consistantly. We also have a surplus on that side. It allows you to sign Toffoli for the top 6, use MacEwan on the 3rd line... and have the roster space for Podkolzin after next season. A top 4 D for us makes a much bigger difference.
  12. I know we would probably have to add for this, but we need a top 4 D. He is signed long term to a REALLY good cap number which also increases his value. Interestingly hearing him interviewed on 1040 today, he lives in Kelowna in the offseason (like a lot of guys who played for the Rockets) and he did talk about his desire to play out West sometime and kept talking about being a Western guy and liking the style of play in the West. He would fit into our pairing pretty well and likely go alongside Hughes in Tanev's spot. Hughes-Severson Edler-Stecher Tryamkin-Myers Those are actually three fairly solid pairings compared with some of the possibilities facing us. Severson isn't really a top pairing guy, but his minutes will be more limited as Hughes will be playing on the 1st PP and Edler-Stecher will eat a lot of 5 on 5 and PK time. Tryamkin is an interesting option as he shouldn't be too expensive, but for those pencilling him into a top 4 right away, that is a massive risk. He skated pretty well when he was here before, but the game is way faster and it would be terrible to find out he just can't get that extra half step needed to keep up. A lot of big guys have washed out of the league (or at least prominent roles) since then due to that change. Jersey has tons of cap space, and needs to add some size in their forward group as a lot of them are small, Virtanen would certainly fill a need for them. Something like: Virtanen Either Rafferty or Juolevi Some bad cap going their way For Severson It is giving up enough that half the folks will roast me right away... which is a decent sign that it is more realistic than most prices.
  13. Diamond on air said they have been in contact... but that things are on hold until all this other stuff gets worked out. You can’t really have discussions until you know the landscape with the cap, compliance buyouts, etc. A reporter has also said that Tryamkin’s KHL team wants to re-sign has been told he is going to try getting an NHL contract first. I don’t think it is a slam dunk though. Tryamkin’s camp and some folks here think he is a legit top 4 guy. The team probably thinks he is still a big risk and probably a 3rd pairing level guy with value like Benn and Fantenberg.
  14. Interesting bit of info from a 1040 interview today. Rafferty played on the left side most of his college career, so is completely comfortable on that side. That gives us a lot of extra versatility and increases his chance of being on the roster when next season opens (assuming we don't trade him away of course). You don't want two rookies on the same pairing (Green would give them very little ice time)... so having Rafferty and Myers could be an interesting option for offensive zone faceoffs, but their overall minutes being more limited with no PP or PK time. We need another defensive guy with Hughes, Tanev if we can get him signed for a reasonable deal and can shed other cap. Edler can probably carry a partner like Tryamkin... Edler would get more minutes with special teams play, ideally an Edler Tanev PK if you can wrangle it. Hughes-XXX (Tanev?) Edler-XXX (Tryamkin?) Rafferty-Myers Benn/Tryamkin
  15. I am not suggesting it is an easy slam dunk, but I think they also have to be thinking long term as well. There is nothing to suggest that they will be contending for the next 2-3 years, the exact window that you can expect Weber to be performing at a good level. Keeping him to help them a little in the short term will almost certainly cost them big time in the long term when they might be looking better and closer to a Cup. I also think a savvy GM could really leverage Nashville’s looming recapture disaster, to get a big asset in return for buying out Weber.
  16. Provost

    Judd Brackett

    Petterson was absolutely a Brackett pick, every report says that Benning had to be convinced to pick him by an intense pressure campaign from Brackett and Hammarstrom. Brackett had Hughes really high on his list (like #3), but apparently Benning also liked Hayton as much as Hughes. If Hayton hadn’t gone off the. Sore before we picked, who knows which guy we would have picked. So suggesting Brackett May have a feeling of entitlement is like saying Petterson has a feeling of being entitled to being on the top line... is it entitlement if you have earned it?
  17. The fact Weber’s goes down a lot actually makes him more of a buyout candidate than otherwise. At some point in the next 6 coming years, Montreal hopes to be a team able to go deep in the playoffs and maybe even contend for the Cup. Having an almost $8 million cap hit for a 40 year old defenceman during those years would absolutely destroy those chances. They took their chances with Weber because they though they were close, and figured the early years of success would make up for the later years of the albatross contract. That didn’t work out. Compliance buyouts only cost cash, 2/3rds of remaining money owed. So Weber having been paid more up front makes a buyout beneficial compared with the huge looming cap hit. There is another consideration to be had. Presumably a compliance buy out erases future cap recapture penalties. It would actually be in Nashville’s beer interest to trade for Weber and buy him out, or give Montreal a huge sweetener to buy out Weber to avoid the massive penalty they are facing down the road.
  18. Provost

    Judd Brackett

    You haven’t worked in an office before? Gear’s role hasn’t changed, they just promoted him. They chose NOT to promote Brackett. There is no limit on number of AGMs they can have. It absolutely shows who is valued and on the way up. They are part of a small organization and Brackett was not chosen to be part of the senior management team. There is also the added statement that Benning made at the time about it being done to allow him and Weisbrod to get out and be more involved in scouting.
  19. Provost

    Judd Brackett

    I got a lot of heat saying this back when just Gear was promoted and Benning also threw a little shade at Brackett publicly by making two statements. “Gear’s promotion allows myself and Weisbrod to take a bigger role in scouting”, and “We promoted him (Brackett) from a part-time scout to full-time. We have offered him a contract, and will see what happens. It contrasted a lot with what he said about Gear and instead of the stock public answer of “Judd is a really talented and valuable member of our team, and we are working towards getting a contract done”... he suggested that a take it or leave it contract offer was on the table, while putting him in his place with the reminder he was recently only a part-time guy. At the same time we were getting reports from local media that Brackett was a Linden guy and wanted assurances of how much day he would have in the scouting department.
  20. It will be interesting to look beyond who we would buy out (obvious), but also what other impacts it would have. There will be a bunch of solid NHL veterans suddenly available who are legit players but just overpaid on terrible contracts. Can you scoop up a local guy like Turris for $1-2 million on a one year contract? He can play centre or wing. Seabrook, Ladd, P.K. Subban, Tyler Johnson, Gostisbiere? Lots of names of real players who could end up on the market and be worried more about resurrecting their careers and/or winning than money which they would have already pocketed . Will it also reduce the price for UFAs to have a bunch more on the market? Can we weaponize it and trade away another bad contract to be bought out by another team who doesn’t have one of their own to really worry about.
  21. I think Jake is probably the odd man out in a numbers game and has a good chance of getting traded (especially if we manage to res-sign Toffoli). There just aren't that many spaces on that side, and it gets worse next year when Podkolzin will almost certainly be on the team. Virtanen gets a solid asset back and will become less of a deal on his new contract. 2020-21: Toffoli, Boeser, Leivo, MacEwan on RW 2021-22: Toffoli, Boeser, Podkolzin, MacEwan.. Leivo gets pushed to depth guy or can also easily play LW. I don't think that is the right target though... the long rumoured Ristolainen move would be a lot more suitable for our needs. You get your top pairing all situations RD to go with Edler (though you don't want to play Risto the 25 minutes a game he was playing some years in Buffalo as he isn't that player)... it makes all the pairings work out properly and replaces Tanev for similar money and a lot younger. There are probably other targets out there, but we basically need an Edler for the right side... or a Tanev who is several years younger. We need decent size, good 5 on 5 defensive ability... add in a pinch of physicality and that would be ideal. Dumba is always talked about, we probably missed the boat on guys like Philipe Myers from Philly and Marcus Petterson... they should have been targets instead of signing our Myers. Severson from Jersey would be dandy, but expensive considering his age and contract. The list isn't crazy long for someone to shore up our right side. Stecher and Tanev aren't too far down the list of guys that could be available to be gotten... and we could just re-sign them. Maybe you try to sign one of them to a shorter term deal and punt the ball down a year or two and see if one of our internal guys like Tryamkin works out. Hopefully Benning has some magic up his sleeve to find a player because we don't currently have a good succession plan to make up pairing in a way Green likes to deploy them
  22. I can't see the scaling of salaries agreed to like that. It means players with existing contracts (which is most of them) voting to give some money back to the owners to then spend like crazy people on the few UFAs out there. Increasing escrow would take money evenly out of each player's pocket based on the existing formulas in place... similar to what you are saying but more fair and using existing CBA language. I am confident there will be some sort of negotiated deal to even out the escrow a little so there isn't a huge hit this year... but at the cost of a flat cap for longer.
  23. I agree and the thing that screws up the fit is having Myers in that spot right now. I take Tryamkin at $2-2.5 per season for a 3-4 year term over Myers at $6 million for our third pairing and see how he progress les over a season or two. I am referring to how he fits with our existing pairings and not whether I want him on the team or not. I have been cheerleading for him for years. I don’t see Myers as a top 4, and I don’t see Tryamkin as a top 4 (at least this season aside from spot injury duty).
  24. It is the KHL, it is not comparable to the NHL in the slightest. Not in quality of players, pace, or intensity Guys like ex-Canucks Linden Vey and Nick Jensen are among the top producers in the entire league. Playing and defending against them isn’t the same as defending against McDavid and Ovechkin. He isn’t even dominating in the KHL, going into a season with him as a top 4 is asking for trouble. Maybe he can get there at some point... but there is no information that exists yet to suggest it is likely going to happen. I am a huge fan, and hope we sign him... but for those expecting him to be some sort of stalwart right out of the gate, they are asking a lot and it is more likely to fail than succeed.