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  1. This couldn’t be more representative of Canucks management over the last years. Shut down the forum to avoid negativity, instead of say focussing on making the team better. Folk migrate to an alternative and this site missesout on hundreds of of glowing reviews after an 8-1 win over a division rival.
  2. Hey, he isn’t Satan… that is over the top! A sleazy slumlord that exploits immigrant labour (occasionally with fatal consequences for them and their children) who has been reported by his estranged wife and kids to be a deadbeat who abuses women and kids…. Sure. A shitty owner who has repeatedly had classy knowledgeable Hockey folks fired in order to fill out the front office with incompetent “yes men” who stroke his ego and tell him what he wants to hear… sure. The actual Prince or Darkness… “probably not” If he was, you would think we would have made some unholy bargains to win the Cup by now.
  3. …Donkey balls. That is all. Goodbye forum.
  4. That isn’t quite right. 54% chance a 3rd round player makes the NHL… not that they play one game. They are guys that play at least one game.
  5. Pearson is a solid player on a decent contract with no term left after this year. Montreal will be able to trade him for another 3rd or better at the deadline. This one hangs on the new regime again mishandling the cap so they were forced to make the move. I am not Benning fan, but there have been a lot of contracts signed since he left as well for us to be in this cap situation.
  6. Last time, lots of folks defended Babcock saying players were just sensitive and being babies. When it all came out and a bunch of highly respected veterans said he was an abusive bully, folks changed their tune. Seems the same playbook is happening now. I am not giving Babcock the benefit of the doubt here.
  7. Without the team funding this site, we will probably each need to throw in a few bucks to keep the alternative going.
  8. We already know you are Brad Marchand… it has been obvious for years.
  9. What the actual f**k…. I just passed 20 years on here. Don’t they get that these sorts of things are how to engage fans. When the team has been god awful for years we can still gather here and discuss Canucks stuff.
  10. Hey, getting paid to play hockey is better than working for a living… the KHL is a lot farther down on the ladder than it used to be though.
  11. That would be a trade like I mentioned is not impossible… not a waiver wire pick up like people are suggesting would be a done deal. That isn’t an unreasonable deal you propose. Do they want to trade away a veteran assistant captain who plays top minutes for a more expensive and worse D, just to clear some longer term cap space? I don’t know, I wouldn’t. They would have to replace him as they are signing other veteran guys. If they put him on the block, they would get a decent return for him. He isn’t a cap dump. I would do it from our end. I would even throw in Rathbone for a future that would be attractive to them.
  12. I am still not sure where the value is to teams picking up Myers for his full cap hit even if you just think of him getting waived to get around his modified no trade clause. Almost no one in the league has room to fit his cap hit. There are exactly four teams who can fit him currently as per Capfriendly. There may be a couple more who have LTIR candidates they can get cap relief for: Nashville (barely) Buffalo Chicago Anaheim Anaheim still has to sign Zegras and Drysdale. That would take up enough cap space they may or may not even be able to fit Myers under the cap… at least leaving them so little that it doesn’t make sense for them to use it all up on him. There are deals to be made for them to eat cap and get an asset back for, why give it all up for nothing? Buffalo has no need for Myers, and probably wouldn’t want to go down that path again even if they had a need. Chigago wants assets in return for their cap space. They have three solid RD in Jones, Zaitsev, and Murphy that Myers isn’t going to be bumping out of any roster spot. Nashville could “maybe” use an upgrade on RD, but Myers would use up all their remaining cap space. They have a lot of OK players on RD, and I don’t know which two of these guys Myers would jump in the pecking order to get 3rd pairing minutes….Barrie, Luke Schenn, Carrier, Fabbro. What options does that leave? Trade with someone that will send at least $4 million in cap back to give us some breathing room? Has to not be on his NTC.
  13. He gives up $6 million of what is certainly going to be his last big dollar contract? Definitely seems unlikely.
  14. If that was the plan, it was a dumb one. Over age guys are available for a reason. They got passed over. They also have less upside and development left. A 4th rounder who is 20 has had two extra years of physical growth and development…. Less upside left. There are always NCAA free agents that don’t cost a draft pick, European players, and cheap veterans to be had on short term deals . Draft picks should be guys you are aiming for a chance to be at the top of your roster.
  15. “Please don’t leave to Jersey at the end of your contract… here is the C!” Kidding aside, I am sure there was some of that strategy in comes… but he is a good choice. He comes from a hockey family that has been around the game and he knows better than most what he is getting into. Hopefully there is some winning, nothing better than leading this team in this market during good times and long playoff runs. In tough stretches it is a horrible grind having to trot out to the media and try to explain yet another loss.
  16. Hmm I can see their sales pitch now… “Less good, twice the price…. and… ummm… taller?”
  17. He probably won’t, his cap hit is just too big. Not many teams will have the cap space for even half his cap hit if we retain, and there are just better uses for scarce cap hits by contenders. The guys who had value last year were on the cheapest deals or were just really good. Myers would need to have a VERY good season to rehab his value around the league. That isn’t impossible if he is put on a 3rd pairing like he belongs and not asked to be a minute munching shut down guy… which he is just ill suited to and putting him in a position to fail. We also may be in a playoff race, so wouldn’t want to be selling off players in that situation. If everything works out perfectly and a contender has an LTIR and needs a RHD, then maybe we get a 3rd or 4th round pick if we retain 50%. A bird in the hand, if there is a deal for Myers now then move him. The cap space would be more valuable as a potential small return at the deadline. There will be a lot of solid players shaking out at the end of training camp due to cap constraints and young, cheaper players beating out more expensive veterans. You want some space to be in that game.
  18. We can dream! We had a bunch of guys have career years last year and weren’t even in playoff contention. We are still a roster on paper that literally needs everything to fall right to squeak into the playoffs. There is a reason we play games though, sometimes magic happens and a team’s chemistry is just right to become better than the sum of its parts. We have enough new bodies to hope some of that happens.
  19. This is my pick for most under rated signing of the offseason. We go through 11-16 D a year in this organization. This is a guy that is primed to earn the trust of the coaching staff, especially ones that preach needing to be more predictable and gritty. He has a leg up on being 7/8 and staying with the big club because the young guys are better served getting big minutes and reps in the minors. There will be times that our 7th D is taking top four minutes this season. Not a lot of young guys can do that. A seasoned pro is just going to have a better chance or not hurting you.
  20. That was the summer when Benning ran out of chances for me. I posted before it that it was the make or break time for the team. Could he find a way to untangle the cap mess he made. I felt like a lone voice in the woods when I appealed for them to trade Virtanen when he went in that two month incredible hot streak of almost an PPG. All indications from the numbers was it was a non sustainable fluke. The player showed us what he was for years, how they got fooled by a few weeks of hot play was astounding. Then wasting all that time on the Markstrom negotiations and not even bothering to put offers in front of Tanev and Toffoli. I really didn’t care whether they kept Markstrom or Demko really. Sign Markstrom if you think you can get a solid return for Demko… let Markstrom walk, go with the cheaper option if you believe in Demko and use that money on other positions. Either choice is reasonable. Letting Markstrom walk and then flinching and spending a bunch of money on an insurance goalie for Demko because you don’t believe in him? The biggest cost was being too capped out to extend Petterson and Hughes to max term deals. That was completely unforgivable. The team was only going to go as far as these guys progress. Pay less then for a benefit later when the team is more competitive. This isn’t all hindsight, I posted all this stuff before the moves happened… as did a bunch of other folks. Complete amateur lay people shouldn’t outdo the GM who has a whole staff and inside information. Unfortunately, the same sorts of signs are there now for our future. We seem to have built a team that should compete for the playoffs as a wildcard. Our aspiration seems to be to get to the “mushy middle” and hope for a miracle run. I am hoping for a big difference from having an improved defence and PK. At the same time I hear defensive guys coming in saying that they really want to work on their offence. That is a bad sign to me. Our last successful era had role players who knew and prided themselves in their roles. Malhotra didn’t come in and say he was going to try to score more. Torres had a job of making the opposition too worried an about their health to think about making plays. Hansen said that he prided himself in keeping goals out. His radio hits as a pundit talk about how important everyone knowing those roles were to the team success. I remember Gudbranson coming in and billed as the next Willie Mitchell, big, tough, stay at home, good scrapper. His first interview he started talking about how much more offence he had in his toolkit. We were then exposed to a guy who didn’t want to play the role he was brought in for and often just skated around in circles after the whistle while there were scrums in the crease.
  21. Unfortunately it is kind of stuck because of previous bad decisions. The OEL buyout was inevitable and unavoidable. It should never have happened, but it was the result of not waiting a year for the last set of bad contracts to expire. The offseason after the great bubble playoff run, if they believed in the team and wanted to make a push... THAT was the year to exit those bad contracts and use that money to retain guys like Toffoli, Tanev, and extend their young stars to max term deals. Weirdly, that was the one year Benning in his entire tenure where he said outright "We have no interest in moving more high picks or prospects, they are too important for building a team." The team had really good buzz around the league, picked as the next Canadian team to win the Cup, and interviews from lots of players saying until they got a chance to watch them in the bubble, they had no idea how good they were. Of course, with the key cap casualties from that roster, the team went into a spiral the next year. Which if course is obviously the time to pull the trigger on the OEL trade... because that is what you do when your team is bad and you don't have a plan aside from trying to keep your job next year. Using the high picks to make it happen as well, that were off the table the year before when they could have really helped. All that churn was the time that wasted early Petterson and Hughes years when they were on cheap ELCs, and cost us the future with them locked up to long term deals. From the outside it just looks like we have to see how this season goes because to keep this basic roster in place we are capped out going forward for the next few years with giving out raises. If the team is bad again, that is really bleak.
  22. That is frankly a bunch of nonsense. 1. Having an overly rosy outlook on the team is an entirely different issue than being toxic by name calling and being all around negative in regards to other posters who don't agree with. That was the issue being discussed. It wasn't me he was referring to when he started making rude comments and personal attacks on people for having the nerve to post about Petterson's contract situation (in the Petterson contract thread mind you). 2. It isn't negative to post the factual math of our playoff chances when they become really low and have a discussion on "how can we turn this around for next year to help us become a winner". It is simply moving the horizon to a season where the team has a chance of resetting. Everyone DOESN'T know our chances aren't good and don't know how it is almost impossible to make up ground.... that was obvious from the response of several posters (which you can go back and look up if your memory has failed you), especially the first year or two. It was certainly not "we understand but want to ignore reality", it was "you are stupid, that is factually wrong and the Canucks will make the playoffs." When the math turned out to be right REPEATEDLY every year... as math tends to do... by last year, the response to those threads changed a lot and instead of folks having hissy fits because they didn't believe it... and it became a positive discussion of what moves could be made to set the team up for the future... as it should be and what my posts and comments literally said from day one. Folks had a much better understanding and the talk turned to making moves intended for the future rather than an almost certainly futile playoff push.
  23. You called everyone dumb crybabies for discussing Petterson’s contract status… in the actual Petterson contract thread on a discussion board. Your rationale was that you have the ability to tell the future and know how it is going to turn out. I pointed out that was a super cringey post. Your response was Ad hominem personal attacks that have nothing to do with the actual topic. I think you may want to reconsider what the meaning of the word negative is. Your posts are really toxic and most certainly aren’t positive.
  24. Wait, your post boils down to “folks, stop crying, I can tell the future and it means you are dumb for talking about this. Also, here is an obviously dumb comparison and some straw man arguments I invented.” … yikes.
  25. A guy who is a UFA and been on a losing team his entire career won’t have much motivation to re-sign for the rest of his playing days just to continue to lose. If you add in that his two brothers who he is super close with will have been playing together and almost certainly on at least some deep playoff runs by then… it isn’t hard to connect the dots on what is likely to happen. Make no mistake, if we can’t sign Petey and to a reasonable contract that gives us a chance to sign players around him… the Canucks will not be a winner by the last year of Quinn’s contact when a decision has to be made. If unsigned, Petey is traded in the summer or 2024, or walks as a UFA in 2025 with no return. The very next summer is when you have to decide on what to do with Quinn as you can’t let him play his pending UFA season without an extension and risk losing a second star player for nothing. It is the Canucks management and ownership though, so we know how it will almost certainly play out. They will sign Petey to a huge deal if they can bribe him to even do it, then remain capped and not have a way to improve for another decade. The other alternative is that Petey refuses to extend at any price and signals his intent to test free agency. Instead of trading him and triggering a full rebuild in that case, which would make sense to every other owner, they will try to make a “hockey trade” to stay competitive which results in taking 2-3 much lesser NHL players as the return for Petey instead of a boatload of futures.
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