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    Donald J. Trump, 45th US President of the United States

    There’s far more to what side your align with then some recent individual things going on. You’re completely missing what makes a person rebulican or what makes a person a Democrat. It’s a belief system in how the country should opporate. Just because a few individuals are dumb doesn’t mean you all of the sudden throw your underlying beliefs out the window. That would be a like a Christian giving up on his belief in god simply because he has a bad experience with a pastor once. I vote concervative because many of the policies they support, align with my beliefs. I don’t vote conservative simply because of Scheer. In fact he as an individual has just a small part in who I vote for especially in the Canadian system.
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    Who’s calling me out on my BS? All I’ve stated was it was a bad signing and we can now move on... and the majority of people agree. It’s the insecure and soft posters that see any sort of criticism and feel the need to come to the teams defense like some sort of white knight. From your post history, it’s pretty obvious you’re 14 maybe 15 so I’ll let it pass since it’s expected, I just expect more from JR.
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    Spin away my friend.. It's funny, look at what you're dropping to, all this over someone stating the obvious and calling it a bad signing. It's the perfect example of fan being insecure and letting their blind bias prevent them from being able to think logically. You just can't ever admit to something was a mistake, not even in the slightest. Everyone else doesn't seem struggle with admitting it was a bad signing, yet here you are coming up with what ever nonsense you can throw hoping it will stick. You're a blind as the friends i have in Edmonton that still claim the Lucic signing was good. Enjoy your bubble. Good luck JR.
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    No you live in a bubble, one where nothing this team does could even be considered a mistake..and criticism equals hate....very millennial of you.
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    on and on. no harm in calling it like it is...
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    Yep, just typical every day business...ok then.... "That was the hardest call I’ve had to make to him.” Bad signing...move on.
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    What value do you place on leadership. For the flames they were capped out and couldn't afford to bring in help in other areas of their team because they were spending 4 million on ....leadership. He was also holding up a roster spot preventing players from being able to be brought up. Here is the thing about "spinning things". you would have a point if all I did was look at negatives and was never be able to admit in any positive moves but that's not the case. Canucks are my favourite team but I'm a fan of the sport in general, so I do my best not to let my homer bias get in the way from thinking logically. From a fans perspective we don't pay the bills so we shrug it off but that doesn't mean it doesn't affect our team, What do you think that spending does to our GM's relationship with the owner? Would have Skille or Ruutu been better? Well they couldn't have been worse. This is a hockey discussion board, it we weren't nit picking we wouldn't be having a discussion. Also i wouldn't even call this nit picking, the only reason it gets turned into more is because some people get triggered over criticism. Stating the obvious really doesn't need any more discussion
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    haha that's an expensive insurance plan.....
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    See here's the thing, anything can be spun to be seen as a positive. I'm sure some oilers fans are saying the same thing about Lucic. He's making the team harder to play against, protecting the youth, providing competition for roster spots...Success.....Not really. There were fans in calgary claiming the Brouwer signing was a good one too since he provided "leadership".. Here's why it doesn't work, like i said to JR, essentially the bar you're saying Gagner set was simply just being a warm body there for it's a win..but if that was the teams goal then there were far better and cheaper options on the market that didn't force JB to make the hardest call in his management career. Jack Skille and tuomo ruutu for example accomplished the exact same bar. We would laugh at any team that would have made similar moves, yet for some reason From an outside view we can look at signings like Brouwer, Stajan, Lucic, B.Pouliot, Russell Sekeras and laugh at them being mistakes, because they are/were in fact mistakes. Anyone that would defend those moves we would all wondering if they had a few screws loose....
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    See this is the type of mentality that makes it hard for people like you to be taken seriously in any sort of hockey discussion. It's near impossible to have a logical discussion. You (and so many others) struggle so hard at admitting any sort of fault of the team, everything is spun in a way to be seen as a win. and in the end it's you and others that make things bigger than they need to be... Why's it so hard to admit something didn't work out. News flash no team is perfect, every team makes mistakes. All I've done is a simple review and reflect, which is something even our own mgmt does. Calling something out as a loss/mistake doesn't equate to hate, that's just how you evaluate/measure things in life. But so many are so insecure that any sort of criticism, immediately sends off triggers. Some of you would rather just stay in a protective bubble, and you know what, if that's what you want out of hockey by all means, feel free to put me on ignore, i'm here to have logical and rational hockey discussion, not to be involved in a fan circle jerk.. But it's your life and you're free to live it however you see fit.
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    This doesn't really sounds like something that has gone out as planned, unless it was his plan to piss off the owner. JB did not sign Gagner with the expectation to having to bury his contract in the minors. “It was a hard conversation,” Benning said. “I tried to explain to him that we had signed Sam but we felt younger players had outperformed him at camp. I was talking about (Nikolay) Goldobin, mostly. We had to make a hard decision on that, and it was hard to have to call him up and explain it. But at the end of the conversation he understood. That was the hardest call I’ve had to make to him.” Aquilini told Sportsnet: “When they made that decision to put Sam in the minors, when they told me, I wasn’t happy about it. I mean, it’s $3 million (per season). It’s crazy, but that’s what was necessary.” It is business however and moves/signings like this happen to every team around the league almost every year. I'm grateful JB was able to make the decision (as sutter would say, "he has balls") and waive Gagner, and I'm happy that he was able to end this chapter by moving him, even if Spooner doesn't pan out. Like I said, chalk this up to being a bad signing (a minor dash), be happy we can say it's over... and move on. There's really no need to make anything more of it..
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    Come on now JR. Not much of a bar you just set. Haha Chaput also filled a roster spot, sheltered kids and was expendable depth. He also didn’t cost FA 3 mill a year. If you can’t admit this was a terrible signing then I’m back to losing hope for you. Even JB admitted it was a mistake no need to try and spin it. Bad signing, oh well it happen and we move on.
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    [Trade] Canucks trade Sam Gagner to Oilers for Ryan Spooner

    Some were but many weren't happy about it. In fact i was very vocal about it right after it happened. My logic being: -Gagner needed to be put in a very sheltered roll in order to be success, sheltering him mean less ability to shelter an upcoming rookies. This wasn't uncommon knowledge, torts made it known on what role he had to put him in. -3 years is too long for a placeholder, we just picked up Dahlen and Goldy a few months before, EP was a top 5 pick, and Gaudette was playing lights out in NCAA, there was no way the cards were in his favour to last that long with the team. -He was coming off a career high, in a contact year, after being extremely inconsistent throughout the previous 4 years.