[mattiasbrundin]

Oranje_1986, on Dec 22 2007, 12:41 PM, said:

I've never said Holland are a favourite for a World Cup not even the upcoming Euro cup, and I'm the first one to say they underachieve. I've also been critical of their recent run of results and form.

never said you were, i was more just pointing out history's limited importance. history matters, but there are a lot more important factors in the equation... so, by curiosity, please do tell what you think gives liverpool a certain win against, arguably, europe's strongest team at the moment?

[Cooke_Hart]

ChelseaFC, on Dec 22 2007, 07:41 AM, said:

Hmm....anybody else here watching the North London derby right now? I give the edge to the Yids in the first half, plenty of chances, lots of buzz in the Arsenal end, the Gooner defenders were all over the pitch trying to chase down the Yids instead of marking up.

I desperately wanted to watch that game but it was on too early. Good on ya for getting up, unless you got to watch it on delay. What a heartbreaking finish for me. We haven't beat those damn Gooners for 8 years. Keane stoned on a PK and yet ANOTHER late game lapse on a set play. Sigh. We better get some help on the backline in January.


Re: Uefa Cup and a Spurs favorable draw. If we advance and PSV Eindhoven presumably advance they'd be matched up. That'd be a tough and entertaining draw.

[Oranje]

mattiasbrundin, on Dec 22 2007, 03:57 PM, said:

never said you were, i was more just pointing out history's limited importance. history matters, but there are a lot more important factors in the equation... so, by curiosity, please do tell what you think gives liverpool a certain win against, arguably, europe's strongest team at the moment?

Probably doesn't matter what I say, because it'll get shot down regardless, but in the spirit of the holidays I'll give you my two cents.

Liverpool have very up and down this year. When they're on their game they're beating Besiktas 8-0, but when they're off it they're losing to Reading. Liverpool show in the CL that when qualification is on the line they can come through, they showed that in the group stage. 16 goals for and 1 against in their last 3 games in the CL. I realize Besiktas, Marseille and FC Porto aren't Inter Milan, but those wins are impressive none the less. I'm by no means saying Inter can't win, I just side with Pool. History may not mean anything, but Stevie G has shown in the past he can lead this team (many times weaker on paper than their opponents) to glory. That all being said, I believe Liverpool could still really use another center half.

[Eirenuck]

mattiasbrundin, on Dec 22 2007, 04:59 AM, said:

celtic may have a reinforcement of henrik larsson and with their biggest legend the team can find strength, especially morally, to actually rock barca's star parade.

I haven't heard anything about Larsson going back to Celtic, and even in that unlikely scenario he would be ineligible to play in the Champions League due to his involvement in the UEFA Cup with Helsingborgs IF.

I highly doubt he'd leave his local team who have advanced to the knockout round of the UEFA Cup to play domestic football in Scotland.

[mattiasbrundin]

Eirenuck, on Dec 23 2007, 02:06 AM, said:

I haven't heard anything about Larsson going back to Celtic, and even in that unlikely scenario he would be ineligible to play in the Champions League due to his involvement in the UEFA Cup with Helsingborgs IF.

I highly doubt he'd leave his local team who have advanced to the knockout round of the UEFA Cup to play domestic football in Scotland.

his swedish team is falling apart, sacked the manager, big turbulence in the team, etc, both man ure and celtic has been approaching henrik. scotland on sunday wrote about henrik considering the end his days in celtic. what we do know is that he left sweden for cape verde to have a timeout and then after the holidays tell his future plans.

[mattiasbrundin]

Oranje_1986, on Dec 22 2007, 05:55 PM, said:

Probably doesn't matter what I say, because it'll get shot down regardless, but in the spirit of the holidays I'll give you my two cents.

Liverpool have very up and down this year. When they're on their game they're beating Besiktas 8-0, but when they're off it they're losing to Reading. Liverpool show in the CL that when qualification is on the line they can come through, they showed that in the group stage. 16 goals for and 1 against in their last 3 games in the CL. I realize Besiktas, Marseille and FC Porto aren't Inter Milan, but those wins are impressive none the less. I'm by no means saying Inter can't win, I just side with Pool. History may not mean anything, but Stevie G has shown in the past he can lead this team (many times weaker on paper than their opponents) to glory. That all being said, I believe Liverpool could still really use another center half.

i'll answer in detail later, matey. now i am due for the dreaded milano derby, shaking and shivering, and please jesus and geeno let us win this one...

[toro]

That penalty given up by Everton today was perhaps the stupidest penalty I have ever seen at that level.

[toro]

mattiasbrundin, on Dec 22 2007, 06:57 PM, said:

never said you were, i was more just pointing out history's limited importance. history matters, but there are a lot more important factors in the equation... so, by curiosity, please do tell what you think gives liverpool a certain win against, arguably, europe's strongest team at the moment?

There's no such thing as certain in sports.

I'm a biased Liverpool fan, so take it with a grain of salt, but certainly, Liverpool's pedigree in Europe is far greater than Inter's over the past three years. Liverpool have eliminated the likes of Barca, Milan, Juve and Chelsea (twice) during that time. Inter, on the other hand, have done little. In the end, its two matches, and anything can happen, but Rafa's squad has shown itself to be able to beat anyone in Europe, and often have, usually with inferior players. Liverpool trump Inter in the mental aspect of the game.

If I were a betting man, I'd say 51:49 odds on Liverpool.

[mattiasbrundin]

toro, on Dec 23 2007, 08:15 AM, said:

There's no such thing as certain in sports.

I'm a biased Liverpool fan, so take it with a grain of salt, but certainly, Liverpool's pedigree in Europe is far greater than Inter's over the past three years. Liverpool have eliminated the likes of Barca, Milan, Juve and Chelsea (twice) during that time. Inter, on the other hand, have done little. In the end, its two matches, and anything can happen, but Rafa's squad has shown itself to be able to beat anyone in Europe, and often have, usually with inferior players. Liverpool trump Inter in the mental aspect of the game.

If I were a betting man, I'd say 51:49 odds on Liverpool.

inter has underachieved terribly in last year's CL, but last year ibrahimovic among other key players were playing injured, almost crippled, and in the tradition of pazza inter we often lose against weaker team (in theory) while make great games against playing class teams. we also have a great mental strength now (as shown in our derby win a few minutes ago) and when viera, figo and stankovic is back in january we will have even more depth offensive, as well as controlled lock options for defense, so my 51:49 is on inter.

[Oranje]

mattiasbrundin, on Dec 23 2007, 05:49 AM, said:

i'll answer in detail later, matey. now i am due for the dreaded milano derby, shaking and shivering, and please jesus and geeno let us win this one...

As much as I said I'm not a fan of the Serie A, I wouldn't mind watching that Milan derby. Derbys between top sides are always good. I'm stuck watching Chelsea/ Blackburn

[Cooke_Hart]

bmpa

[Oranje]

Looks like Tottenham have locked up another young Welsh defender, and this guy looks as promising as Bale.

http://soccernet.esp...d...555&cc=5901

Future is looking bright for your Spurs, Cooke.

[Cooke_Hart]

I saw thought. I don't know a darn thing about him but if he's anywhere near as effective as Bale I'm very happy. Looks like Wales is set at full back for years to come.

[Oranje]

Cooke_Hart, on Dec 24 2007, 12:51 PM, said:

I saw thought. I don't know a darn thing about him but if he's anywhere near as effective as Bale I'm very happy. Looks like Wales is set at full back for years to come.

I don't know much about him as well, but skysports named him into their emerging British 11.
http://origin.skysports.com/story/0,19528,...3004027,00.html

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Full-back Chris Gunter

Cardiff City's stopper picked up the Championship's Apprentice of the Year award in March and he has gone on to make his international debut since. The Welshman broke Graham Moore's 48-year record as the Bluebirds' youngest ever senior international at the end of last season and he has landed a move to join Tottenham Hotspur in January as a result.

[Eirenuck]

I downloaded Wolves-Leicester, and Canada's Ian Hume scored a cracking free kick goal for the Foxes in a 1-1 draw.

[Gnickers87]

nice to see Ballack score a FK in his Chelsea League return.

[Scar Tissue]

Eirenuck, on Dec 25 2007, 05:02 AM, said:

I downloaded Wolves-Leicester, and Canada's Ian Hume scored a cracking free kick goal for the Foxes in a 1-1 draw.

Hume is so money

[drdeath]

Did santa bring any of this thread's regulars anything footie-related for christmas?
I scored a new Manchester United jersey, scarf and hat to help me further serve in Ferguson's Red Army

This post has been edited by drdeath: 27 December 2007 - 04:19 PM

[Oranje]

drdeath, on Dec 27 2007, 03:18 PM, said:

Did santa bring any of this thread's regulars anything footie-related for christmas?
I scored a new Manchester United jersey, scarf and hat to help me further serve in Ferguson's Red Army

I got a Sport Chek gift card which I quickly turned into a new pair of boots.

[drdeath]

Oranje_1986, on Dec 27 2007, 07:09 PM, said:

I got a Sport Chek gift card which I quickly turned into a new pair of boots.

Sweet, what are they?