[Oranje]

drdeath, on Dec 27 2007, 07:49 PM, said:

Sweet, what are they?

Umbro, with the laces off center. Nothing special really, but my adidas were just done.

This post has been edited by Oranje_1986: 27 December 2007 - 08:57 PM

[Cooke_Hart]

Somehow I didn't think to ask for anything footy. D'oh.

Totts 5 Fulham 1: Ledley King returns. Long live the King! This is going to be a good second half.

[Ukrainian_Canuck]

sooo shevchenko starting to score when given playing time and drogbas position?
whats this?

[Gnickers87]

Ukrainian_Canuck, on Dec 28 2007, 12:57 AM, said:

sooo shevchenko starting to score when given playing time and drogbas position?
whats this?

Shev has really picked up his game lately

With Lampard and Drogba both gone for a few weeks, it looks like the two huge signings of last year will need to shine. They are off to a good start

This post has been edited by Gnickers87: 28 December 2007 - 01:59 AM

[Ukrainian_Canuck]

Scar Tissue, on Dec 22 2007, 03:48 PM, said:

i will have an orgasm if Naka plays against Barca

well if he doesnt play celtic have no chance
its not just his free kicks
he dictates the midfield masterfully and his passes make me yell at the TV
just great to watch

[Eirenuck]

Cooke_Hart, on Dec 28 2007, 12:55 AM, said:

Somehow I didn't think to ask for anything footy. D'oh.

Totts 5 Fulham 1: Ledley King returns. Long live the King! This is going to be a good second half.

Robbie Keane grabs 2 to stake the claim of highest goalscorer of this calendar year:

PLAYER CLUB(S) PLAYED SCORED
Robbie Keane Spurs 31 19
Cristiano Ronaldo Man Utd 30 17
Benni McCarthy Blackburn 35 15
Carlos Tevez West Ham/Man Utd 31 14
Yakubu Boro/Everton 32 14
Nicolas Anelka Bolton 33 14
Didier Drogba Chelsea 26 12

[Ukrainian_Canuck]

Gnickers87, on Dec 28 2007, 12:59 AM, said:

Shev has really picked up his game lately

With Lampard and Drogba both gone for a few weeks, it looks like the two huge signings of last year will need to shine. They are off to a good start

see i dont think its the fact he picked up his game
the game was always there........on the bloody bench.

[Eirenuck]

Ukrainian_Canuck, on Dec 28 2007, 12:59 AM, said:

well if he doesnt play celtic have no chance
its not just his free kicks
he dictates the midfield masterfully and his passes make me yell at the TV
just great to watch

Obviously having a fit Naka would give Celtic an edge, but they did beat AC Milan without him.

The play now goes through McGeady, and it will be interesting to see what system is worked out on Naka's return, because McGeady has been pure class when given the responsibility.

[Gnickers87]

Ukrainian_Canuck, on Dec 28 2007, 01:00 AM, said:

see i dont think its the fact he picked up his game
the game was always there........on the bloody bench.

I also think switching from Serie A to the Premiership had a fair bit to do with it.

hopefully him and Ballack can work some magic in the coming fixtures

[Ukrainian_Canuck]

Gnickers87, on Dec 28 2007, 01:09 AM, said:

I also think switching from Serie A to the Premiership had a fair bit to do with it.

hopefully him and Ballack can work some magic in the coming fixtures

mmm possibly but i dont think its the leagues that did it

think about it

in Milan sheva was a legend, on that team the mentality was "get the ball to sheva hel do the rest"
he barely ever even got subbed off

at chelsea nobody wanted him but the clubs owner
he is an outcast thats spent most of his time on the bench
he never even got a chance
he isnt a part of the team

guaranteed if he got a starting role off the bat he wouldnt of skipped a beat

but drogba is the man there and the mentality is "get the ball to didier and hel do the rest"

[Cooke_Hart]

Eirenuck, on Dec 28 2007, 02:59 AM, said:

Robbie Keane grabs 2 to stake the claim of highest goalscorer of this calendar year:

PLAYER CLUB(S) PLAYED SCORED
Robbie Keane Spurs 31 19
Cristiano Ronaldo Man Utd 30 17
Benni McCarthy Blackburn 35 15
Carlos Tevez West Ham/Man Utd 31 14
Yakubu Boro/Everton 32 14
Nicolas Anelka Bolton 33 14
Didier Drogba Chelsea 26 12

Wow, that's a stat to be proud of. I know that he's been prolific but I'm surprised that he's tops on that list. Robbie Keane, the most under rated striker in the BPL. All he does is score goals. Way to go Keaner.

Interesting that Benni McCarthy's on that list given his poor form this season. He obviously finished strong last year so perhaps he'll yet pick it up.

The BPL game has proven to be too fast for Sheva so far. No team play by the philosophy of we'll give it to ________ and he'll do the rest. Serie A is a slower build up that depends more on possession. Sheva excels on using just a little space to capatilise but in the BPL once he distributes a ball he's not necessarily going to see it back soon and in the meantime he's not going to find space effectively because he's not fast enough. This is where Drogba excels because he can win the ball, give to his support and then create space for himself to receive it again. I don't doubt that Sheva's got tons of skill (he still performs admirably for Ukraine) but unless Chelsea decides to play attacking football like they did against Aston Villa where they can draw defenders away from him then I doubt he'll ever have the same impact for Chelsea. Keep in mind that they gave up 5 goals as well.

In the meantime, bring the Ukrainian to MLS. I'd be happy to watch him rip the league up.

[Ukrainian_Canuck]

Cooke_Hart, on Dec 28 2007, 01:22 AM, said:

Wow, that's a stat to be proud of. I know that he's been prolific but I'm surprised that he's tops on that list. Robbie Keane, the most under rated striker in the BPL. All he does is score goals. Way to go Keaner.

Interesting that Benni McCarthy's on that list given his poor form this season. He obviously finished strong last year so perhaps he'll yet pick it up.

The BPL game has proven to be too fast for Sheva so far. No team play by the philosophy of we'll give it to ________ and he'll do the rest. Serie A is a slower build up that depends more on possession. Sheva excels on using just a little space to capatilise but in the BPL once he distributes a ball he's not necessarily going to see it back soon and in the meantime he's not going to find space effectively because he's not fast enough. This is where Drogba excels because he can win the ball, give to his support and then create space for himself to receive it again. I don't doubt that Sheva's got tons of skill (he still performs admirably for Ukraine) but unless Chelsea decides to play attacking football like they did against Aston Villa where they can draw defenders away from him then I doubt he'll ever have the same impact for Chelsea. Keep in mind that they gave up 5 goals as well.

In the meantime, bring the Ukrainian to MLS. I'd be happy to watch him rip the league up.

only if he comes along with at least 5 BIG names and it becomes a trend.

[Eirenuck]

U_C, you seem to be quite critical of the decision to play Drogba over Shev.....personally I don't think any rational, neutral person would choose Shev over Drogba considering the success Chelsea has had when using him as their main man up front.

I felt sympathy for Shev....until I remembered how much he was getting paid.

Bottom line, on a team like Chelsea you can't walk in and expect a team to be built around you, you have to earn that right, and for me, Shev didn't do that.

[Ukrainian_Canuck]

Eirenuck, on Dec 28 2007, 01:27 AM, said:

U_C, you seem to be quite critical of the decision to play Drogba over Shev.....personally I don't think any rational, neutral person would choose Shev over Drogba considering the success Chelsea has had when using him as their main man up front.

I felt sympathy for Shev....until I remembered how much he was getting paid.

Bottom line, on a team like Chelsea you can't walk in and expect a team to be built around you, you have to earn that right, and for me, Shev didn't do that.

nonono you misunderstand im not critical of it being drogba over sheva

chelse is Drogbas team

im critical of sheva for leaving milan and going from legend to obscurity.

he could of solidified his status in the soccer world as one of the best to ever play

instead he took the money.........dammit sheva why did you leave milan, i hate being a chelsea fan!
i like being a milan fan way better

[Eirenuck]

Ukrainian_Canuck, on Dec 28 2007, 01:30 AM, said:

nonono you misunderstand im not critical of it being drogba over sheva

chelse is Drogbas team

im critical of sheva for leaving milan and going from legend to obscurity.

he could of solidified his status in the soccer world as one of the best to ever play

instead he took the money.........dammit sheva why did you leave milan, i hate being a chelsea fan!
i like being a milan fan way better

I don't blame him for taking on the challenge of the EPL, nor for taking the money.

But when you make a move like that, you've got to be prepared to get stuck in and fight for your place.

I think Shev just expected the team to be built around him and that just wasn't the case.

The whole thing was doomed from the beginning though, since it wasn't even Mourinho's idea to get him.

[Ukrainian_Canuck]

Eirenuck, on Dec 28 2007, 01:33 AM, said:

I don't blame him for taking on the challenge of the EPL, nor for taking the money.

But when you make a move like that, you've got to be prepared to get stuck in and fight for your place.

I think Shev just expected the team to be built around him and that just wasn't the case.

The whole thing was doomed from the beginning though, since it wasn't even Mourinho's idea to get him.

yup.

and as soon as drogba is healthy no matter how much sheva scores now he will still be a sub

[Ukrainian_Canuck]

does anyone have a vid of the second goal by sheva?
it was supposedly quite beautiful

[Eirenuck]

Ukrainian_Canuck, on Dec 28 2007, 01:43 AM, said:

does anyone have a vid of the second goal by sheva?
it was supposedly quite beautiful

Here ya go:

http://www.d1g.com/v...how/?id=1637333

[Cooke_Hart]

Sheva Sheva blah blah blah. Let's talk about a real striker. Berbatov scores 4 goals in the game of the season, Tottenham 6-Reading 4. Crazy crazy game. This is different then Reading's 7-4 loss to Portsmouth because they were never really in that game. At White Hart Lane, Reading led 3 seperate times. 8 goals were scored in 30 minutes. An absolutely mind blowing second half. So fun.

The captain of Motherwall has died at the age of 35. he collapsed on the field just before getting subbed off.

[Oranje]

Cooke_Hart, on Dec 29 2007, 04:42 PM, said:

Sheva Sheva blah blah blah. Let's talk about a real striker. Berbatov scores 4 goals in the game of the season, Tottenham 6-Reading 4. Crazy crazy game. This is different then Reading's 7-4 loss to Portsmouth because they were never really in that game. At White Hart Lane, Reading led 3 seperate times. 8 goals were scored in 30 minutes. An absolutely mind blowing second half. So fun.

The captain of Motherwall has died at the age of 35. he collapsed on the field just before getting subbed off.

As high as you must be after that win, does the fact the Spurs gave up 4 goals to Reading concern you a lot? Tottenham are the EPL version of the 02/03 Canucks. Sublime up front, suspect at the back and poor goalkeeping. None the less, would have liked to see that match. Games like that are a lot of fun to watch.