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Grabner said:

itzabreeze said:

Moose @ Grand Rapids (Edler, Hansen, & Friends)

Will Raymond be playing today?

probably not

[Psycho_Path]

Apparently it was said that he's likely to join the team as early as sunday. Who knows if he's there now though.

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So I was over on HF Boards and I was looking for info about Swedish prospects for this years draft when I came across a young Danish player, Lars Eller. He is currently playing for Frölunda J20 and leading the J20 league in total points. (GP:39 G:18 A:37 P:55)

Here is a quick evaluation from a Swedish poster on HF:

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- He could be a late first rounder, I suppose, not having seen many of the top prospects outside of Sweden. IMO he is the top prospect playing in Sweden eligible for the 2007 NHL Entry Draft.

- He kind of reminds me of Henrik Zetterberg, although with little more speed IMO.

- Next season he will either 1) Play another junior league season in Sweden 2) Sign a youth contract with Frölunda's SEL team and play some SEL hockey, but mostly junior hockey 3) Go to the CHL like some successful Danes have been doing the past years

- As a player, Eller is very complete. Good speed, technical skills, very nice hockey sense and passes. Quite explosive with good puck control. One of those players that can actually be really dominant in a game. In the Swedish junior league he has very good chemistry with 89-born Swede Simon Hjalmarsson, who is usually the sniper on that line while Eller sets him up.

At 6' , 200 pounds he isn't huge but he does have size. If he does slip to our 2nd pick I think he could be a steal. Hopefully Gradin can work his magic again.

Profile: http://www.elitepros...php?player=5995
HF Boards Thread: http://hfboards.com/...124#post8023124

[timw33]

mball said:

So I was over on HF Boards and I was looking for info about Swedish prospects for this years draft when I came across a young Danish player, Lars Eller.  He is currently playing for Frölunda J20 and leading the J20 league in total points. (GP:39   G:18  A:37 P:55)

Here is a quick evaluation from a Swedish poster on HF:

Quote

- He could be a late first rounder, I suppose, not having seen many of the top prospects outside of Sweden. IMO he is the top prospect playing in Sweden eligible for the 2007 NHL Entry Draft.

- He kind of reminds me of Henrik Zetterberg, although with little more speed IMO.

- Next season he will either 1) Play another junior league season in Sweden 2) Sign a youth contract with Frölunda's SEL team and play some SEL hockey, but mostly junior hockey 3) Go to the CHL like some successful Danes have been doing the past years

- As a player, Eller is very complete. Good speed, technical skills, very nice hockey sense and passes. Quite explosive with good puck control. One of those players that can actually be really dominant in a game. In the Swedish junior league he has very good chemistry with 89-born Swede Simon Hjalmarsson, who is usually the sniper on that line while Eller sets him up.

At 6' , 200 pounds he isn't huge but he does have size. If he does slip to our 2nd pick I think he could be a steal. Hopefully Gradin can work his magic again.

Profile: http://www.elitepros...php?player=5995
HF Boards Thread: http://hfboards.com/...124#post8023124

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

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timw33 said:

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

Yeah I could care less about what most fans think. I'd rather pick the best player available than the best Canadian available. Either way I don't think Nonis will pick Eller with the Canucks first rounder.

[timw33]

mball said:

timw33 said:

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

Yeah I could care less about what most fans think. I'd rather pick the best player available than the best Canadian available. Either way I don't think Nonis will pick Eller with the Canucks first rounder.

Best CENTRE available.

[Mike27]

timw33 said:

mball said:

timw33 said:

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

Yeah I could care less about what most fans think. I'd rather pick the best player available than the best Canadian available. Either way I don't think Nonis will pick Eller with the Canucks first rounder.

Best CENTRE available.

I think a team should always draft the best PLAYER available. Who knows what your teams needs will be in 3-5 years. Taking an lower talent centre over a higher talent left winger makes no sense to me at all. Take the best player you can, and if, down the road when he is ready to play for you, you can always trade him for another guy who plays the position needed at that time.

Should Pittsburgh have passed on Malkin because they had Crosby already and nothing on defence? No way!

[timw33]

Mike27 said:

timw33 said:

mball said:

timw33 said:

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

Yeah I could care less about what most fans think. I'd rather pick the best player available than the best Canadian available. Either way I don't think Nonis will pick Eller with the Canucks first rounder.

Best CENTRE available.

I think a team should always draft the best PLAYER available. Who knows what your teams needs will be in 3-5 years. Taking an lower talent centre over a higher talent left winger makes no sense to me at all. Take the best player you can, and if, down the road when he is ready to play for you, you can always trade him for another guy who plays the position needed at that time.

Should Pittsburgh have passed on Malkin because they had Crosby already and nothing on defence? No way!

This is a different draft....

There is no superstar that you can't pass outside of the top 5.

Any player in the top 60 could go anywhere from 10-60.

This draft will be teams drafting for position just as much as skill, potential..

[Toxic]

4-1 BC in the 3rd UNH's only goal was a BC own-goal, so Schneider still hasnt been beaten by UNH

They'll prolly end up as #2 in the country after tonight and are playing better hockey than any team in the NCAA, Prolly gonna be a BC-Minnesota final

The Schneid vs. Okposo and Johnson

[timw33]

toxic rd said:

4-1 BC in the 3rd UNH's only goal was a BC own-goal, so Schneider still hasnt been beaten by UNH

They'll prolly end up as #2 in the country after tonight and are playing better hockey than any team in the NCAA, Prolly gonna be a BC-Minnesota final

The Schneid vs. Okposo and Johnson

So if they win then they ________

[Toxic]

timw33 said:

toxic rd said:

4-1 BC in the 3rd UNH's only goal was a BC own-goal, so Schneider still hasnt been beaten by UNH

They'll prolly end up as #2 in the country after tonight and are playing better hockey than any team in the NCAA, Prolly gonna be a BC-Minnesota final

The Schneid vs. Okposo and Johnson

So if they win then they ________

4-2 now, 8 min left

If they win they will wind up with a #1 seed in next weeks 16 team tourney, considering how well theyre playing they should trounce everyone, Im predicting a Minny-BC final

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timw33 said:

mball said:

timw33 said:

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

Yeah I could care less about what most fans think. I'd rather pick the best player available than the best Canadian available. Either way I don't think Nonis will pick Eller with the Canucks first rounder.

Best CENTRE available.

In this draft yes, best C available. I was speaking generally in my previous post.

[timw33]

Ohhhh they do a 16 team tourny and the final 4 are called the Frozen Four?

I see I see.

Lets go BC.

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For those interested I could make them a player specific avatar like the one I'm using. It doesn't take too long and I wouldn't mind doing it for a few people.

Rules:

1. Prospects only
2. Only one per person
3. Supply picture of prospect as well as logo.

[timw33]

mball said:

For those interested I could make them a player specific avatar like the one I'm using.  It doesn't take too long and I wouldn't mind doing it for a few people.

Rules:  

1. Prospects only
2. Only one per person
3. Supply picture of prospect as well as logo.

I like that Grabner Spokane one, it looks pretty sweet.

[itzabreeze]

BC Wins 5-2.....

[Mike27]

timw33 said:

Mike27 said:

timw33 said:

mball said:

timw33 said:

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

Yeah I could care less about what most fans think. I'd rather pick the best player available than the best Canadian available. Either way I don't think Nonis will pick Eller with the Canucks first rounder.

Best CENTRE available.

I think a team should always draft the best PLAYER available. Who knows what your teams needs will be in 3-5 years. Taking an lower talent centre over a higher talent left winger makes no sense to me at all. Take the best player you can, and if, down the road when he is ready to play for you, you can always trade him for another guy who plays the position needed at that time.

Should Pittsburgh have passed on Malkin because they had Crosby already and nothing on defence? No way!

This is a different draft....

There is no superstar that you can't pass outside of the top 5.

Any player in the top 60 could go anywhere from 10-60.

This draft will be teams drafting for position just as much as skill, potential..

I understand what you are saying, but I guarantee you that in three or four years there will be a bunch of that group of #10 to #60 who will be good players, and a bunch who will be busts. The smart teams will just have to work that much harder to try to separate the wheat from the chaff. Maybe the Canucks have a lack of centres in the system, and maybe they should pick a bunch of centres with their mid to low picks (ie 4 through 7), but with 1st and 2nd round picks I believe they should go for the best talent they can find, whether that talent is a centre or even a goaltender.

Just my opinion, but talent = assets, and assets can be moved for other assets. The higher value the asset, the greater the potential return.

When you are picking 24th, you are unlikely to get a superstar. You either have to be lucky, or extremely hard working scouting wise (and lucky too).

[timw33]

Mike27 said:

timw33 said:

Mike27 said:

timw33 said:

mball said:

timw33 said:

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

Yeah I could care less about what most fans think. I'd rather pick the best player available than the best Canadian available. Either way I don't think Nonis will pick Eller with the Canucks first rounder.

Best CENTRE available.

I think a team should always draft the best PLAYER available. Who knows what your teams needs will be in 3-5 years. Taking an lower talent centre over a higher talent left winger makes no sense to me at all. Take the best player you can, and if, down the road when he is ready to play for you, you can always trade him for another guy who plays the position needed at that time.

Should Pittsburgh have passed on Malkin because they had Crosby already and nothing on defence? No way!

This is a different draft....

There is no superstar that you can't pass outside of the top 5.

Any player in the top 60 could go anywhere from 10-60.

This draft will be teams drafting for position just as much as skill, potential..

I understand what you are saying, but I guarantee you that in three or four years there will be a bunch of that group of #10 to #60 who will be good players, and a bunch who will be busts. The smart teams will just have to work that much harder to try to separate the wheat from the chaff. Maybe the Canucks have a lack of centres in the system, and maybe they should pick a bunch of centres with their mid to low picks (ie 4 through 7), but with 1st and 2nd round picks I believe they should go for the best talent they can find, whether that talent is a centre or even a goaltender.

Just my opinion, but talent = assets, and assets can be moved for other assets. The higher value the asset, the greater the potential return.

When you are picking 24th, you are unlikely to get a superstar. You either have to be lucky, or extremely hard working scouting wise (and lucky too).

You can still get a player at 24.

[Mike27]

timw33 said:

Mike27 said:

timw33 said:

Mike27 said:

timw33 said:

mball said:

timw33 said:

Yeah, I've heard good things about him too.

CDC would go nuts for us not picking a good Canadian Kid, but I dont care.

Yeah I could care less about what most fans think. I'd rather pick the best player available than the best Canadian available. Either way I don't think Nonis will pick Eller with the Canucks first rounder.

Best CENTRE available.

I think a team should always draft the best PLAYER available. Who knows what your teams needs will be in 3-5 years. Taking an lower talent centre over a higher talent left winger makes no sense to me at all. Take the best player you can, and if, down the road when he is ready to play for you, you can always trade him for another guy who plays the position needed at that time.

Should Pittsburgh have passed on Malkin because they had Crosby already and nothing on defence? No way!

This is a different draft....

There is no superstar that you can't pass outside of the top 5.

Any player in the top 60 could go anywhere from 10-60.

This draft will be teams drafting for position just as much as skill, potential..

I understand what you are saying, but I guarantee you that in three or four years there will be a bunch of that group of #10 to #60 who will be good players, and a bunch who will be busts. The smart teams will just have to work that much harder to try to separate the wheat from the chaff. Maybe the Canucks have a lack of centres in the system, and maybe they should pick a bunch of centres with their mid to low picks (ie 4 through 7), but with 1st and 2nd round picks I believe they should go for the best talent they can find, whether that talent is a centre or even a goaltender.

Just my opinion, but talent = assets, and assets can be moved for other assets. The higher value the asset, the greater the potential return.

When you are picking 24th, you are unlikely to get a superstar. You either have to be lucky, or extremely hard working scouting wise (and lucky too).

You can still get a player at 24.

Of course you can. You can still get a player at 210, but it is less likely the lower you go. Otherwise, why would a 1st round pick have more value than a 5th round pick.
If a team, say with the 24th overall pick, only looks at centres, they might not get the best talent. They still have to look at all players available. If there is a dman who is rated higher by their scouts, they should take him (in my opinion)

[timw33]

Simek still out with Injury.