[Cooke_Hart]

jayRmichigan said:

itzabreeze said:

Cry me a river.

I understand what he had given to the Moose organization, but it's really time for him to retire.

Oh yeah you're right he should retire, I mean 17-9 is a horrible record. Much worse than Ellis' 0-6 record.

Oh, and if you payed attention to that team prior to this season you would know just how incredible Flaherty is during the playoffs and what a HUGE blow that is to the team.

Not only that but it's completely classless to celebrate someone's injury. Just so that a so so prospect can get some important playing (or not) which they would probably get the next year if Ellis earned it.

[itzabreeze]

jayRmichigan said:

itzabreeze said:

jayRmichigan said:

itzabreeze said:

Ellis Called up to the Moose.

"The Manitoba Moose, the AHL affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks, announced they recalled goaltender Julien Ellis from the Victoria Salmon Kings of the ECHL.  

Ellis, 21, has appeared in six games with the Moose so far in his first season of professional hockey. He has compiled a record of 0-6-0 with a goals against average of 3.71 and a save percentage of .885. He has also appeared in 34 games this year with the Salmon Kings where he is 18-14-2 with a 3.31 goals against average and a .910 save percentage and was named to the ECHL All-Star Game.  

Ellis was originally drafted by the Vancouver Canucks with their sixth choice, 189th overall, in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft.  
"

Flats gone 6-8 Weeks with an MCL tear......

Boy do I gotta hold back the tears on that.....


:twisted:

Dude ... You dissing Flaherty?




Maybe you should just leave.

Cry me a river.

I understand what he had given to the Moose organization, but it's really time for him to retire.

Oh yeah you're right he should retire, I mean 17-9 is a horrible record. Much worse than Ellis' 0-6 record.

Oh, and if you payed attention to that team prior to this season you would know just how incredible Flaherty is during the playoffs and what a HUGE blow that is to the team.

Flats hasn't been the same ever since he was sent back to the Moose right before the season started. He's been outplayed by Drew


D-MAC

2.16GAA with a 925 SV%

Flats

2.42GAA 909 SV%

I'm not saying Ellis is better then Flats..... my point is that, at 39 years old?, it's time for him to call it a career, and give the young guns some time to develop.

[YaK]

itzabreeze said:

Flats
2.42GAA 909 SV%  

That stat honestly takes me aback. In the few Moose games I've actually been able to watch (mostly on the NHL Network) I was extremely impressed with Flats. I thought he looked dominant in those games. It just really surprises me.

[Cooke_Hart]

You say it like those stats are poor.

[Toxic]

I'm with Breeze on this one, Flaherty is the reason Alex Vincent is on the IR and Julien Ellis isnt being given the proper chance he deserves

[Awesome]

Can someone make me a Juraj Simek pixel avatar?

Brandon Wheat Kings - (Home Jersey)(Clear Visor)(#12)

Thanks 8) . *PM*

[itzabreeze]

Cooke_Hart said:

You say it like those stats are poor.

My point isn't that his stats are poor, but you guys make it out to me a huge lose for the Moose. I doubt Arniel would rotate the goalies in the playoffs, and obviously D-mac has been the better player.....ALL YEAR LONG. Plus, he's 15 years younger then Flats.

Anyways, The Moose are D-Mac's team now. They will live and die with him.

[jayRmichigan]

itzabreeze said:

jayRmichigan said:

itzabreeze said:

jayRmichigan said:

itzabreeze said:

Ellis Called up to the Moose.

"The Manitoba Moose, the AHL affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks, announced they recalled goaltender Julien Ellis from the Victoria Salmon Kings of the ECHL.  

Ellis, 21, has appeared in six games with the Moose so far in his first season of professional hockey. He has compiled a record of 0-6-0 with a goals against average of 3.71 and a save percentage of .885. He has also appeared in 34 games this year with the Salmon Kings where he is 18-14-2 with a 3.31 goals against average and a .910 save percentage and was named to the ECHL All-Star Game.  

Ellis was originally drafted by the Vancouver Canucks with their sixth choice, 189th overall, in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft.  
"

Flats gone 6-8 Weeks with an MCL tear......

Boy do I gotta hold back the tears on that.....


:twisted:

Dude ... You dissing Flaherty?




Maybe you should just leave.

Cry me a river.

I understand what he had given to the Moose organization, but it's really time for him to retire.

Oh yeah you're right he should retire, I mean 17-9 is a horrible record. Much worse than Ellis' 0-6 record.

Oh, and if you payed attention to that team prior to this season you would know just how incredible Flaherty is during the playoffs and what a HUGE blow that is to the team.

Flats hasn't been the same ever since he was sent back to the Moose right before the season started. He's been outplayed by Drew


D-MAC

2.16GAA with a 925 SV%

Flats

2.42GAA 909 SV%

I'm not saying Ellis is better then Flats..... my point is that, at 39 years old?, it's time for him to call it a career, and give the young guns some time to develop.

I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place. Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs. Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Oh, and need I remind you of Johnny Bower who became made it to the NHL at the age of 35 won 4 Stanley Cups and two Vezina Trophys, and only retired at the age of 45? Age isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[itzabreeze]

[quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quo
e=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze]Ellis Called up to the Moose.

"The Manitoba Moose, the AHL affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks, announced they recalled goaltender Julien Ellis from the Victoria Salmon Kings of the ECHL.  

Ellis, 21, has appeared in six games with the Moose so far in his first season of professional hockey. He has compiled a record of 0-6-0 with a goals against average of 3.71 and a save percentage of .885. He has also appeared in 34 games this year with the Salmon Kings where he is 18-14-2 with a 3.31 goals against average and a .910 save percentage and was named to the ECHL All-Star Game.  

Ellis was originally drafted by the Vancouver Canucks with their sixth choice, 189th overall, in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft.  
"

Flats gone 6-8 Weeks with an MCL tear......

Boy do I gotta hold back the tears on that.....


:twisted:[/quote]

Dude ... You dissing Flaherty?




Maybe you should just leave.[/quote]

Cry me a river.

I understand what he had given to the Moose organization, but it's really time for him to retire.[/quote]

Oh yeah you're right he should retire, I mean 17-9 is a horrible record. Much worse than Ellis' 0-6 record.

Oh, and if you payed attention to that team prior to this season you would know just how incredible Flaherty is during the playoffs and what a HUGE blow that is to the team.[/quote]

Flats hasn't been the same ever since he was sent back to the Moose right before the season started. He's been outplayed by Drew


D-MAC

2.16GAA with a 925 SV%

Flats

2.42GAA 909 SV%

I'm not saying Ellis is better then Flats..... my point is that, at 39 years old?, it's time for him to call it a career, and give the young guns some time to develop.[/quote]

I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place. Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs. Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Oh, and need I remind you of Johnny Bower who became made it to the NHL at the age of 35 won 4 Stanley Cups and two Vezina Trophys, and only retired at the age of 45? Age isn't necessarily a bad thing.[/quote]

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I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place.

You may not need him right now, but you may need him in the future.

Quote

Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs.

Who says Ellis isn't as good as Flats?, we don't know because he hasn't honestly had the opportunity to prove himself. A better +/-?
LMAO, I highly doubt the Players would have a huge burst of confidence all of a sudden if they went from a -5 to +5 Maybe you should teach a player how to play defence instead.

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Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Will considering he is pretty much done for the year, and now the rumours of Cory Schneider turning Pro, I highly doubt they would keep a 40 year old average, injury prone goalie around. Especially since D-mac has proven himself that he CAN be a starter.

[itzabreeze]

Prospect Games for Tuesday!.

Houston @ Moose (Hansen & Raymond!! :twisted:

Raymond





First picture of Raymond in a Moose uniform



Hansen

[Rinslet]

BTW, to all those prospect experts.. XD I've always wondered what the difference was between an ATO contract and a 2-way contract? Does this mean Raymond hasn't signed with the Canucks yet? :?

[CCF4E]

itzabreeze said:

First picture of Raymond in a Moose uniform

8) 8) 8)

[jayRmichigan]

[quote=itzabreeze][quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quote=jayRmichigan][quo
e=itzabreeze][quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze]Ellis Called up to the Moose.

"The Manitoba Moose, the AHL affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks, announced they recalled goaltender Julien Ellis from the Victoria Salmon Kings of the ECHL.  

Ellis, 21, has appeared in six games with the Moose so far in his first season of professional hockey. He has compiled a record of 0-6-0 with a goals against average of 3.71 and a save percentage of .885. He has also appeared in 34 games this year with the Salmon Kings where he is 18-14-2 with a 3.31 goals against average and a .910 save percentage and was named to the ECHL All-Star Game.  

Ellis was originally drafted by the Vancouver Canucks with their sixth choice, 189th overall, in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft.  
"

Flats gone 6-8 Weeks with an MCL tear......

Boy do I gotta hold back the tears on that.....


:twisted:[/quote]

Dude ... You dissing Flaherty?




Maybe you should just leave.[/quote]

Cry me a river.

I understand what he had given to the Moose organization, but it's really time for him to retire.[/quote]

Oh yeah you're right he should retire, I mean 17-9 is a horrible record. Much worse than Ellis' 0-6 record.

Oh, and if you payed attention to that team prior to this season you would know just how incredible Flaherty is during the playoffs and what a HUGE blow that is to the team.[/quote]

Flats hasn't been the same ever since he was sent back to the Moose right before the season started. He's been outplayed by Drew


D-MAC

2.16GAA with a 925 SV%

Flats

2.42GAA 909 SV%

I'm not saying Ellis is better then Flats..... my point is that, at 39 years old?, it's time for him to call it a career, and give the young guns some time to develop.[/quote]

I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place. Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs. Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Oh, and need I remind you of Johnny Bower who became made it to the NHL at the age of 35 won 4 Stanley Cups and two Vezina Trophys, and only retired at the age of 45? Age isn't necessarily a bad thing.[/quote]

Quote

I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place.

You may not need him right now, but you may need him in the future.

Quote

Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs.

Who says Ellis isn't as good as Flats?, we don't know because he hasn't honestly had the opportunity to prove himself. A better +/-?
LMAO, I highly doubt the Players would have a huge burst of confidence all of a sudden if they went from a -5 to +5 Maybe you should teach a player how to play defence instead.

Quote

Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Will considering he is pretty much done for the year, and now the rumours of Cory Schneider turning Pro, I highly doubt they would keep a 40 year old average, injury prone goalie around. Especially since D-mac has proven himself that he CAN be a starter.[/quote]

When will we ever need Ellis? You said that Schneider will likely be turning pro, so that would mean that Luongo, Sabourin, Schnieder and D-Mac would all have to go down before we needed him. That's pretty unlikely ...

I'm not saying that Macintyre sucks or anything either, I realize that he's been having a good season which is excellent for the Moose, and he'll probably go far in the playoffs. Here's the thing, you're saying that Flaherty sucks when he cleary doesn't, and you're saying that he should retire only because he's old. That's a really dumb reason to tell a guy he should retire.

And until he starts to suck, why get rid of him? I mean this would be like telling Brodeur to retire so they could give a new goalie room to develope.

[-mb]

CCF4E said:

itzabreeze said:

First picture of Raymond in a Moose uniform

8) 8) 8)

I call dibs on a Raymond Moose sig...
Also:

Is up for grabs again.

[-mb]

jayRmichigan said:

When will we ever need Ellis? You said that Schneider will likely be turning pro, so that would mean that Luongo, Sabourin, Schnieder and D-Mac would all have to go down before we needed him. That's pretty unlikely ...

Sabou is likely to leave the Canucks at the end of this season as he is a UFA. With the stellar play of D-Mac I'm sure the Canucks would not have a problem with him backing up Luongo next season.

So with D-Mac on the Canucks and Flaherty's pending retirement that leaves room for two new goalies on the Moose. Ellis could be one of them, Schneider could be one of them and even Vincent or any other goalie out there.

I'm not trying to argue anything you said I'm just pointing out that there is a world of possibilities for the Moose net next season so don't count Ellis out as being one of them.

[CCF4E]

[quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quo
e=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze]Ellis Called up to the Moose.

"The Manitoba Moose, the AHL affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks, announced they recalled goaltender Julien Ellis from the Victoria Salmon Kings of the ECHL.  

Ellis, 21, has appeared in six games with the Moose so far in his first season of professional hockey. He has compiled a record of 0-6-0 with a goals against average of 3.71 and a save percentage of .885. He has also appeared in 34 games this year with the Salmon Kings where he is 18-14-2 with a 3.31 goals against average and a .910 save percentage and was named to the ECHL All-Star Game.  

Ellis was originally drafted by the Vancouver Canucks with their sixth choice, 189th overall, in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft.  
"

Flats gone 6-8 Weeks with an MCL tear......

Boy do I gotta hold back the tears on that.....


:twisted:[/quote]

Dude ... You dissing Flaherty?




Maybe you should just leave.[/quote]

Cry me a river.

I understand what he had given to the Moose organization, but it's really time for him to retire.[/quote]

Oh yeah you're right he should retire, I mean 17-9 is a horrible record. Much worse than Ellis' 0-6 record.

Oh, and if you payed attention to that team prior to this season you would know just how incredible Flaherty is during the playoffs and what a HUGE blow that is to the team.[/quote]

Flats hasn't been the same ever since he was sent back to the Moose right before the season started. He's been outplayed by Drew


D-MAC

2.16GAA with a 925 SV%

Flats

2.42GAA 909 SV%

I'm not saying Ellis is better then Flats..... my point is that, at 39 years old?, it's time for him to call it a career, and give the young guns some time to develop.[/quote]

I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place. Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs. Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Oh, and need I remind you of Johnny Bower who became made it to the NHL at the age of 35 won 4 Stanley Cups and two Vezina Trophys, and only retired at the age of 45? Age isn't necessarily a bad thing.[/quote]

Quote

I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place.

You may not need him right now, but you may need him in the future.

Quote

Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs.

Who says Ellis isn't as good as Flats?, we don't know because he hasn't honestly had the opportunity to prove himself. A better +/-?
LMAO, I highly doubt the Players would have a huge burst of confidence all of a sudden if they went from a -5 to +5 Maybe you should teach a player how to play defence instead.

Quote

Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Will considering he is pretty much done for the year, and now the rumours of Cory Schneider turning Pro, I highly doubt they would keep a 40 year old average, injury prone goalie around. Especially since D-mac has proven himself that he CAN be a starter.[/quote]

When will we ever need Ellis? You said that Schneider will likely be turning pro, so that would mean that Luongo, Sabourin, Schnieder and D-Mac would all have to go down before we needed him. That's pretty unlikely ...

I'm not saying that Macintyre sucks or anything either, I realize that he's been having a good season which is excellent for the Moose, and he'll probably go far in the playoffs. Here's the thing, you're saying that Flaherty sucks when he cleary doesn't, and you're saying that he should retire only because he's old. That's a really dumb reason to tell a guy he should retire.

And until he starts to suck, why get rid of him? I mean this would be like telling Brodeur to retire so they could give a new goalie room to develope.[/quote]Flats is in the AHL right now, it'll be highly unlikely he'll be in the NHL again at his age, I think what Breezze is trying to say here, is that since Flats probably will not play in the NHL anytime soon, why not let Ellis develop with the Moose. Also, Sabby is UFA at the end of the year, which would probably leave D-Mac as Luongos back-up unless we get a UFA goalie.And if Flats does retire, its better to give Ellis some time to adjust to the AHL.Also, on After Hours, Nonis stated he has every intention of signing Schnieds. Flats and Brodeur arent a very a good comparison either. Broduer is probably a record breaking goalie in the NHL and younger then Flats, while Flats is stuck in the AHL
Canucks-
Luongo
D-Mac

Moose-
Schnieds
Ellis

S-Kings
Vincent
Bridges

[itzabreeze]

[quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quo
e=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze][quote=jayRmichigan][quote=itzabreeze]Ellis Called up to the Moose.

"The Manitoba Moose, the AHL affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks, announced they recalled goaltender Julien Ellis from the Victoria Salmon Kings of the ECHL.  

Ellis, 21, has appeared in six games with the Moose so far in his first season of professional hockey. He has compiled a record of 0-6-0 with a goals against average of 3.71 and a save percentage of .885. He has also appeared in 34 games this year with the Salmon Kings where he is 18-14-2 with a 3.31 goals against average and a .910 save percentage and was named to the ECHL All-Star Game.  

Ellis was originally drafted by the Vancouver Canucks with their sixth choice, 189th overall, in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft.  
"

Flats gone 6-8 Weeks with an MCL tear......

Boy do I gotta hold back the tears on that.....


:twisted:[/quote]

Dude ... You dissing Flaherty?




Maybe you should just leave.[/quote]

Cry me a river.

I understand what he had given to the Moose organization, but it's really time for him to retire.[/quote]

Oh yeah you're right he should retire, I mean 17-9 is a horrible record. Much worse than Ellis' 0-6 record.

Oh, and if you payed attention to that team prior to this season you would know just how incredible Flaherty is during the playoffs and what a HUGE blow that is to the team.[/quote]

Flats hasn't been the same ever since he was sent back to the Moose right before the season started. He's been outplayed by Drew


D-MAC

2.16GAA with a 925 SV%

Flats

2.42GAA 909 SV%

I'm not saying Ellis is better then Flats..... my point is that, at 39 years old?, it's time for him to call it a career, and give the young guns some time to develop.[/quote]

I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place. Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs. Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Oh, and need I remind you of Johnny Bower who became made it to the NHL at the age of 35 won 4 Stanley Cups and two Vezina Trophys, and only retired at the age of 45? Age isn't necessarily a bad thing.[/quote]

Quote

I would rather have a goalie who can put up some wins and get the team a playoff birth than trying to develope a younger goalie who we don't really need in the first place.

You may not need him right now, but you may need him in the future.

Quote

Don't you think the skaters would benefit more from having a solid goalie behind them? Better +/-, better morale, it means they get to play in the playoffs.

Who says Ellis isn't as good as Flats?, we don't know because he hasn't honestly had the opportunity to prove himself. A better +/-?
LMAO, I highly doubt the Players would have a huge burst of confidence all of a sudden if they went from a -5 to +5 Maybe you should teach a player how to play defence instead.

Quote

Flaherty has never been incredible during the regular season (still good mind you), but he's always been fantastic during the playoffs, just you wait.

Will considering he is pretty much done for the year, and now the rumours of Cory Schneider turning Pro, I highly doubt they would keep a 40 year old average, injury prone goalie around. Especially since D-mac has proven himself that he CAN be a starter.[/quote]

When will we ever need Ellis? You said that Schneider will likely be turning pro, so that would mean that Luongo, Sabourin, Schnieder and D-Mac would all have to go down before we needed him. That's pretty unlikely ...

I'm not saying that Macintyre sucks or anything either, I realize that he's been having a good season which is excellent for the Moose, and he'll probably go far in the playoffs. Here's the thing, you're saying that Flaherty sucks when he cleary doesn't, and you're saying that he should retire only because he's old. That's a really dumb reason to tell a guy he should retire.

And until he starts to suck, why get rid of him? I mean this would be like telling Brodeur to retire so they could give a new goalie room to develope.[/quote]

:roll:

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When will we ever need Ellis? You said that Schneider will likely be turning pro, so that would mean that Luongo, Sabourin, Schnieder and D-Mac would all have to go down before we needed him. That's pretty unlikely ...

#1 I'm talking about Ellis on the Moose next year. I doubt Sabby will be back, and he wouldn't want to be in the AHL anyways. Who knows if D-MAC will be signed next year. That leaves 2 OPEN spots on the Moose Goalie rotation (Flats Retires). If Cory comes in, he would most likely split the games his first season (say with Ellis)........ or it would be something like 60% 40% split with Cory getting the more games. I never said Cory will turn Pro, their have been rumours (and according to the Moose GM he WILL turn Pro next season). You can NEVER have enough prospects, and you're pretty much saying Ellis is expendable, which any person should know you can NEVER have enough depth in a position.

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I'm not saying that Macintyre sucks or anything either, I realize that he's been having a good season which is excellent for the Moose, and he'll probably go far in the playoffs. Here's the thing, you're saying that Flaherty sucks when he cleary doesn't, and you're saying that he should retire only because he's old. That's a really dumb reason to tell a guy he should retire.

I'm not saying Flats sucks, go over my posts again. I'm saying, in conclusion: He has been outplayed by a kid 15 years younger then him. He doesn't have to retire, but with his injury's with the last two years, he can't say healthy for a full season.

Nuff" Said.

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And until he starts to suck, why get rid of him? I mean this would be like telling Brodeur to retire so they could give a new goalie room to develope

He is expendable.

Again, D-MAC has proved he can be the Starting goalie. Say Cory comes in next season...

Cory plays 50% of the games

Flats plays 50% of the games

Flats gets injured the same the same time next year, and you expect a 21 Year old kid in his first year of Pro to put the team on his back when all of the presure of being the "superstar" canuck prospect. I would hate to see him be put in a situation where it could hurt his confidence, especially in his first year as a Pro.

Anyways, I'm done with this argument.

[AmazingNuck]

mball said:

CCF4E said:

itzabreeze said:

First picture of Raymond in a Moose uniform

8) 8) 8)

I call dibs on a Raymond Moose sig...
Also:

Is up for grabs again.

Mind me using that?

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AmazingNuck said:

Mind me using that?

No problem.

[jayRmichigan]

itzabreeze said:

:roll:  

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When will we ever need Ellis? You said that Schneider will likely be turning pro, so that would mean that Luongo, Sabourin, Schnieder and D-Mac would all have to go down before we needed him. That's pretty unlikely ...

#1 I'm talking about Ellis on the Moose next year. I doubt Sabby will be back, and he wouldn't want to be in the AHL anyways. Who knows if D-MAC will be signed next year. That leaves 2 OPEN spots on the Moose Goalie rotation (Flats Retires). If Cory comes in, he would most likely split the games his first season (say with Ellis)........ or it would be something like 60% 40% split with Cory getting the more games. I never said Cory will turn Pro, their have been rumours (and according to the Moose GM he WILL turn Pro next season). You can NEVER have enough prospects, and you're pretty much saying Ellis is expendable, which any person should know you can NEVER have enough depth in a position.

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I'm not saying that Macintyre sucks or anything either, I realize that he's been having a good season which is excellent for the Moose, and he'll probably go far in the playoffs. Here's the thing, you're saying that Flaherty sucks when he cleary doesn't, and you're saying that he should retire only because he's old. That's a really dumb reason to tell a guy he should retire.

I'm not saying Flats sucks, go over my posts again. I'm saying, in conclusion: He has been outplayed by a kid 15 years younger then him. He doesn't have to retire, but with his injury's with the last two years, he can't say healthy for a full season.

Nuff" Said.

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And until he starts to suck, why get rid of him? I mean this would be like telling Brodeur to retire so they could give a new goalie room to develope

He is expendable.

Again, D-MAC has proved he can be the Starting goalie. Say Cory comes in next season...

Cory plays 50% of the games

Flats plays 50% of the games

Flats gets injured the same the same time next year, and you expect a 21 Year old kid in his first year of Pro to put the team on his back when all of the presure of being the "superstar" canuck prospect. I would hate to see him be put in a situation where it could hurt his confidence, especially in his first year as a Pro.

Anyways, I'm done with this argument.

The major flaw in your thinking is that the Moose are expendable. They are a team, so naturally the coach will make desicions based on what is best for his team. If he has a younger goalie who loses most of his games and an older goalie who wins the majority of his do you honestly think that he'll put in the younger goalie with hopes that he'll be able to mature into a decent player so that the main club will benefit? Of course not, that's ridiculous. That's why Hansen's been playing on the third line most of the year, not because they don't want him to develope or anything, but because there are other players doing better.

You're hating on the guy when he's doing good, that's retarded. Now I'm not against Ellis, and he probably will play for the Moose eventually, but he shouldn't be put in over a solid guy who we know will have success just because he has potential. That won't work, and it's not fair to Flaherty.