[timw33]

gonucksgo0420 said:

timw33 said:

thecupismine said:

If Grabner needs a good playmaking center Nonis's incentives to draft a big, playmaking Canadian center just got a lot larger.  It would help Grabner and our entire team long term.  The Canadian center should also be a good leader, so when Naslund and his following captain leave we have someone within the system who can step up.  This would be a few years down the line, but hey, we must always be prepared lol.  Two centers that come to mind are Sutter and Hamill (not sure about there leadership but they seem obtainable, Hamill a little less likely but Sutter is probable).

Hamill is a small centre, only 5'10.5.

Sutter or Veillieux would be a better fit at 6'3 and 6'5 respectively.

Don't worry, our focus is centres in this draft.

how do you know??

Interweb.....

Edit: if you are refering to our focus.

Our top centre "prospect" is Rick Rypien......*shudder*

Followed by ECHL player F-P Guennete.

We have no centres whatsover and this team has never had a good skilled centre with size play on this team.

[NucksTillIDie]

timw33 said:

thecupismine said:

If Grabner needs a good playmaking center Nonis's incentives to draft a big, playmaking Canadian center just got a lot larger.  It would help Grabner and our entire team long term.  The Canadian center should also be a good leader, so when Naslund and his following captain leave we have someone within the system who can step up.  This would be a few years down the line, but hey, we must always be prepared lol.  Two centers that come to mind are Sutter and Hamill (not sure about there leadership but they seem obtainable, Hamill a little less likely but Sutter is probable).

Hamill is a small centre, only 5'10.5.

Sutter or Veillieux would be a better fit at 6'3 and 6'5 respectively.

Don't worry, our focus is centres in this draft.

If we finish top in NorthWest Division, we will get 26-27 pick overall and Sutter, Veillieux and Hamill will all be taken before then...

Maybe Oscar Moller?

[NucksTillIDie]

Do you guys think Nonis should trade our L.A. 2nd rounder (most likely 31st overall) with our 1st rounder (most likely 25-26 overall) to trade up maybe 10 spots to 15th overall to get one of these guys??

[timw33]

NucksTillIDie said:

Do you guys think Nonis should trade our L.A. 2nd rounder (most likely 31st overall) with our 1st rounder (most likely 25-26 overall) to trade up maybe 10 spots to 15th overall to get one of these guys??

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No.

Talent level is pretty much even throughtout the top 50, not much higher at 15 then at 25.

Players will be going at very erratic spots (in compariason to their rankings) so trading up does not guarentee much.

It would be stupid to trade 2 late 1sts for 1 mid 1st, its better to get numerous prospects.

[timw33]

NucksTillIDie said:

timw33 said:

thecupismine said:

If Grabner needs a good playmaking center Nonis's incentives to draft a big, playmaking Canadian center just got a lot larger.  It would help Grabner and our entire team long term.  The Canadian center should also be a good leader, so when Naslund and his following captain leave we have someone within the system who can step up.  This would be a few years down the line, but hey, we must always be prepared lol.  Two centers that come to mind are Sutter and Hamill (not sure about there leadership but they seem obtainable, Hamill a little less likely but Sutter is probable).

Hamill is a small centre, only 5'10.5.

Sutter or Veillieux would be a better fit at 6'3 and 6'5 respectively.

Don't worry, our focus is centres in this draft.

If we finish top in NorthWest Division, we will get 26-27 pick overall and Sutter, Veillieux and Hamill will all be taken before then...

Maybe Oscar Moller?

Well I'd rather pick 30th.

But If we can get Hamill with a 25+ pick I'd be surprised.

But if we can pick up both of Veilliex and Sutter it would really help out our centre prospect depth and size.

There will be some good forwards available to pick with a late 2nd, maybe even Backlund.

[NucksTillIDie]

I think there is a between top 10-12 than there is 25th overall.. So maybe trading up into the top 10 to draft Espisito or Turris woudlnt be bad..

[NucksTillIDie]

timw33 said:

NucksTillIDie said:

timw33 said:

thecupismine said:

If Grabner needs a good playmaking center Nonis's incentives to draft a big, playmaking Canadian center just got a lot larger.  It would help Grabner and our entire team long term.  The Canadian center should also be a good leader, so when Naslund and his following captain leave we have someone within the system who can step up.  This would be a few years down the line, but hey, we must always be prepared lol.  Two centers that come to mind are Sutter and Hamill (not sure about there leadership but they seem obtainable, Hamill a little less likely but Sutter is probable).

Hamill is a small centre, only 5'10.5.

Sutter or Veillieux would be a better fit at 6'3 and 6'5 respectively.

Don't worry, our focus is centres in this draft.

If we finish top in NorthWest Division, we will get 26-27 pick overall and Sutter, Veillieux and Hamill will all be taken before then...

Maybe Oscar Moller?

Well I'd rather pick 30th.

But If we can get Hamill with a 25+ pick I'd be surprised.

But if we can pick up both of Veilliex and Sutter it would really help out our centre prospect depth and size.

There will be some good forwards available to pick with a late 2nd, maybe even Backlund.

Sutter and Veillieux will be drafted anywhere between 15-30. I would be shocked to see them still available with our L.A. 2nd but who knows...

[timw33]

NucksTillIDie said:

timw33 said:

NucksTillIDie said:

timw33 said:

thecupismine said:

If Grabner needs a good playmaking center Nonis's incentives to draft a big, playmaking Canadian center just got a lot larger.  It would help Grabner and our entire team long term.  The Canadian center should also be a good leader, so when Naslund and his following captain leave we have someone within the system who can step up.  This would be a few years down the line, but hey, we must always be prepared lol.  Two centers that come to mind are Sutter and Hamill (not sure about there leadership but they seem obtainable, Hamill a little less likely but Sutter is probable).

Hamill is a small centre, only 5'10.5.

Sutter or Veillieux would be a better fit at 6'3 and 6'5 respectively.

Don't worry, our focus is centres in this draft.

If we finish top in NorthWest Division, we will get 26-27 pick overall and Sutter, Veillieux and Hamill will all be taken before then...

Maybe Oscar Moller?

Well I'd rather pick 30th.

But If we can get Hamill with a 25+ pick I'd be surprised.

But if we can pick up both of Veilliex and Sutter it would really help out our centre prospect depth and size.

There will be some good forwards available to pick with a late 2nd, maybe even Backlund.

Sutter and Veillieux will be drafted anywhere between 15-30. I would be shocked to see them still available with our L.A. 2nd but who knows...

But you never know in this type of draft, a player could go at any selection, I sure hope one is available however.

But we really need our scouting team to come through with another gem.

[NucksTillIDie]

Maybe we should pick up David Schlemko with a 2nd rounder?? I have a buddy in Alberta who says this guy is amazing at creating plays and good smart skater..

[timw33]

NucksTillIDie said:

Maybe we should pick up David Schlemko with a 2nd rounder??  I have a buddy in Alberta who says this guy is amazing at creating plays and good smart skater..

I'd rather hear from pro scouts than some guy in Alberta.

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thecupismine said:

If Grabner needs a good playmaking center Nonis's incentives to draft a big, playmaking Canadian center just got a lot larger.  It would help Grabner and our entire team long term.  The Canadian center should also be a good leader, so when Naslund and his following captain leave we have someone within the system who can step up.  This would be a few years down the line, but hey, we must always be prepared lol.  Two centers that come to mind are Sutter and Hamill (not sure about there leadership but they seem obtainable, Hamill a little less likely but Sutter is probable).

What is this hard on for drafting "Good Canadian Kids" . .

"Oh My Bloody Hell!" it's happened, it's really happened Don Cherry has finally figured out the instruction to his mind control devise and is using it during Coaches Corner, I told Super Man he was danger, but would be listen? Noooo! he just rambled on about Lex Luther and his attempt to take over the word . . . .

I am glad I missed Coaches Corner today, or I may be going around saying this like, "Those week Euros, who needs em" :shock: .

Anyways . . . What constitutes a good Canadian Kid?, a Family could very well move from say, Sweden when their child was very young, say 1, and have him grow up in Canada and everyone would call him a "Good Canadian Kid" .

Is "Good Canadian Kid" a code word for 6'2 230 pound steroid fed monsters who don't have a problem throwing punches at the first guy who gives them a check?.

I myself prefer skilled forwards who can take/give a check but would rather look to make a fancy play.

Hell, look at the Sedins, they battle it out in the corners . .is that not what the model "Good Canadian Kid" is suppose to be?, a hard nosed grinder who can put the puck in the net?.

[/Rant]

PS: It's Late, I am sick and my head feels like an over-sized watermelon that had a spike driven into it, so if anything in the above post makes no sense i have an excuse.

[Millerdraft]

:Unknown said:

timw33 said:

itzabreeze said:

Grabner GOALZ GOALZ GOALZ!!!!!!!. Again! 1 in the 1st period!.

YES!!!!!!!

GOALLLZZZZ!!1!!!1


The radio feed isnt working for me tonight :cry:

So thats 6 goals, 1 assist since the incident.

Thats quite the response .

Yep. Lovely to see some fire. Exactly the type of response you'd expect from an NHL-calibre sniper! No one can argue that he's got no character now.

[hiroshima]

you guys are ****ed,talking already about the draft.oh my god.lets talk about the draft in 2030?

[vincetheprince]

NucksTillIDie said:

Maybe we should pick up David Schlemko with a 2nd rounder??  I have a buddy in Alberta who says this guy is amazing at creating plays and good smart skater..

hes good but hes a defenceman.. i think with our first 2 picks we should pick up a center with size and another forward and if still available when its OUR pick then ok.

[Boudrias]

Center has to be a priority but i still suspect that Nonis will trade for a NHL ready top six forward before the trade deadline. Just hope it doesn't cost to much!

[thecupismine]

Look, I only said Canadian kid as a generality. To expand on what I meant by that, Canadian kid was only a term in there that meant that he was willing to get physical and create space. The more space Grabner has, the better. Now if there's a european in this draft that can do that, I'm all for drafting him. That's what I was trying to convey.

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thecupismine said:

Look, I only said Canadian kid as a generality.  To expand on what I meant by that, Canadian kid was only a term in there that meant that he was willing to get physical and create space.  The more space Grabner has, the better.  Now if there's a european in this draft that can do that, I'm all for drafting him.  That's what I was trying to convey.

I agree with what you're saying here, with the big ice in Europe there isn't much need for some players to open the ice up. Canadian centres might be more adept to that style.

[Rinslet]

Just so you guys now, I think there's an article (don't know if it's long/short) on Grabner in The Province. It's locked for subscribers so I can't see :3 buut

http://www.canada.co...orts/index.html

The summary said:

Vancouver Canucks draft pick Michael Grabner has rebounded from the public chastising he took from his...

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Rinslet said:

Just so you guys now, I think there's an article (don't know if it's long/short) on Grabner in The Province. It's locked for subscribers so I can't see :3 buut

http://www.canada.co...orts/index.html

The summary said:

Vancouver Canucks draft pick Michael Grabner has rebounded from the public chastising he took from his...

It was short. Basically just says that he rebounded from the public criticism and scored 5 goals in 2 games. Good to see some positive media attention.
I think either the Sun or the Province should do an article on the prospects. Just an informative article on how each prospect is doing. Like toxics first page article. Actually, toxic why don't you just offer to right an article yourself, send it in and see what they think. I think it would be interesting and the prospects would receive more widespread recognition.

[Grabner]

This draft is all about quantity over quality, so we shouldn't be doing 2 for 1 deals with our draft picks.