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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:24 AM
-mb, on Apr 2 2007, 10:41 PM, said:
I didn't say anything about Grabner's potential. All I said was that I think he may not be ready for the AHL. I also said that he may be ready and making the jump to the Moose would be the best thing for him. I've followed Grabner all year and I would not call his season consistent. Sure he went through stretches where he lit it up but he also went through some slumps throughout the year. The decision will be left to the Canucks and the Moose.
I think Grabner is one of those guys that wants to get the NHL as fast as possible which he has stated before in several interviews. And in an offensive role I believe he could have success at the AHL level. However if he's going to be getting third or fourth line minutes with the Moose he would probably be better off playing another year in the dub.
I think Grabner is one of those guys that wants to get the NHL as fast as possible which he has stated before in several interviews. And in an offensive role I believe he could have success at the AHL level. However if he's going to be getting third or fourth line minutes with the Moose he would probably be better off playing another year in the dub.
ic, thanks for the detail respond:) However, do you think the injury would have to do with his slump?
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 01:27 AM
This may have been asked before, but I am curious if Grabner can join the Canucks or one of our affiliates now that his team has been bounced from the playoffs. With unlimited roster space in the playoffs I think (if we could) he should be brought up to be with the team and kind of get a feel of what the playoffs and what being a pro is all about. As for him playing a game in the playoffs that is obviously far-fetched but I wonder if he can be called up at all
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Canadian, on Apr 3 2007, 07:58 AM, said:
One playoff series determines how good a player is???
Hmm..
Hmm..
Don't worry it's just Hiroshima, he's only saying this because Simek scored some points in his series so he's 1000 times better than Grabner
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Schneider not letting in goals during practice... I get reminded of Luongo and how he gets pissed when he lets in a goal during practice.
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BC's Schneider In Frozen Four Focus
by Nick Tarnoff/The Heights/Boston College
(CSTV U-WIRE) CHESTNUT HILL, Mass. — Solving a standout goaltender is a difficult art to master: It takes precision and a tremendous amount of effort for the opposing team, though his own teammates should have a better idea of how to sneak the puck by him in practice. To the frustration of many of his fellow Eagles, however, this is not the case for Boston College's Cory Schneider.
The BC junior prides himself on being close to perfect in practice and carrying that attitude and skill into games. His teammates struggle to score on him almost as much as opposing teams. But, when the other Eagles beat the first-round draft pick of the Vancouver Canucks, they make sure that he is well-aware.
"That's the funny thing; whenever we score on Cory, we're always celebrating and stuff, because he doesn't let in a lot in practice," joked teammate and close friend Mike Brennan.
Schneider responded: "All the guys let me know when they score on me. They don't let me get off the hook ever. It's very competitive. It's a fun little rivalry, but we all push each other."
It's not by accident that Schneider has become one of the elite goalies in college hockey. He works tirelessly to perfect his game, and makes himself not only a better hockey player, but a better athlete every day. And that is something that his teammates notice and respect in him.
"As a player, every day in practice, he comes to get better. He's focused. He's always taking extra shots, he works out after practice. He wants to be a player; he wants to be an athlete," Brennan said about Schneider's work ethic.
Schneider has a bright future, as he continues to progress and develop as a player, but he often opts to focus on the present — and the present is a good place to be right now, as the Eagles embark on their second consecutive trip to the Frozen Four in search of BC's third national championship.
Over the past three seasons, the junior has developed a penchant for coming up big when the team needs him the most: in the big games when the spotlight is shining the brightest. Schneider has played some of the best hockey of his Eagles career over the past six weeks, backstopping the squad to the nation's longest winning streak, which is now at 12 and counting. In that stretch, the junior goalie has posted a 1.60 goals-against average and .946 save percentage, collecting three shutouts in the process. He is making tough saves almost look routine and has certainly returned to the form that made him an All-American during the 2005-2006 campaign.
Schneider came to BC as a highly touted recruit, but his emergence on the Eagles squad came while sharing the spotlight. He spent his freshman year splitting time with since-graduated goalie Matti Kaltianen and adjusting to the change in tempo of the college game, a move he feels has helped in the long run.
"Coach kind of eased me into it. He didn't throw me against UNH and Maine the first few games," Schneider said. "Matti was there to kind of take those games and coach could put me in where he wanted to and kind of get in a nice rotation where they weren't counting on me every single night. I think that helps a lot as a freshman. It lets you get your feet wet and get used to the college game, and I think Matti really helped take a lot of pressure off my shoulders."
But late in the season, coach Jerry York decided to ride the young freshman in the playoffs and into the national tournament.
Schneider has proven that he can play at the highest level — and win at the highest level — having backstopped not only BC to Hockey East titles, but the U.S. under-18 national team to a gold medal in the 2003 world junior championships.
Schneider, though, struggled in his first run through the NCAAs freshman year, but felt that that experience helped him.
"I kind of got some exposure to it my freshman year in the Hockey East and the NCAA's and I think that helped a lot because I struggled a bit in the tournament my freshman year. When it's a big game, it's easy to get up for it, easy to get focused. You're nervous for a little bit, but once you see a few shots, you settle down. I think that the excitement and anticipation makes you more ready to go," he said.
Now, Brennan says, "He's a big-game goalie without a doubt. He comes up big whenever we need him in a huge, huge game, as you can see by this playoff run that we've had. I think it's his focus, his focus before games, during practice, he's always trying to get better."
Schneider and the Eagles battled through a rough stretch in the early portion of the season, dropping in the national polls from No. 1 to as low as No. 15. This year, BC has at times seemed in jeopardy of not making the NCAA Tournament, and part of the Eagle's struggles were between the pipes. On Oct. 20, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish came to Conte Forum and smoked the Eagles, 7-1. Schneider had one of his toughest outings of his career — though BC was able to recover, they couldn't gain any momentum or put together a winning streak longer than three games.
Inconsistency continued to plague the Eagles throughout the season, but when the Beanpot rolled around, the whole season turned for Jerry York's squad. Cory's early-season struggles, said York, could have stemmed from his previous success.
"I think we expect an awful lot of him," he said. "Our expectation is that he'd stop every single puck. I think he got into that framework during the year that, 'hey Coach, I have to be perfect, 1.000 percent save percentage, I'm a returning All-American.' He put a lot of pressure on himself."
York, who leads all active coaches in victories, explained how he helped his netminder, saying, "I just talked to him and told him to be athletic, relax a little bit Cory. It's almost like the golfer on the first tee, you're expecting him to hit it right down the middle all the time — and hey, Tiger doesn't hit it down the middle all the time."
"The whole year, the team was inconsistent in the first three quarters of the season," Schneider said. "But I think once they started playing well, I started playing well too. They started playing a little tighter D, and I started taking care of my own business. This streak here at the end has been huge, just to get back to where I know I can play and where I should have been playing the whole year."
And Schneider has been at the forefront of the turnaround. He has been lights-out recently and is certainly ready to carry the Eagles to a national title, the school's first since 2001. It is hardly surprising that Schneider's play has elevated at the same time as that of the entire squad. When he is at the top of his game, the rest of the team is able to play with the confidence that he will stop everything, and thus it allows the rest of the squad to take more chances and play in a more relaxed frame of mind.
"Having him back there gives you a lot of confidence," Brennan said. "But, at the same time, you can't get stuck in a complacent state of mind, which you can because he's so good and he's always back there when you need him and he comes up big for us."
And his teammates and the Eagles faithful hope that Schneider can come up big in the next two games.
"This year we're not just satisfied to be in the Frozen Four; we want more than that, so I think that's going to be a big driving force," Schneider said about the team's goal. "We want to finish out what we started here. For right now, I'm just focused on winning these two games."
by Nick Tarnoff/The Heights/Boston College
(CSTV U-WIRE) CHESTNUT HILL, Mass. — Solving a standout goaltender is a difficult art to master: It takes precision and a tremendous amount of effort for the opposing team, though his own teammates should have a better idea of how to sneak the puck by him in practice. To the frustration of many of his fellow Eagles, however, this is not the case for Boston College's Cory Schneider.
The BC junior prides himself on being close to perfect in practice and carrying that attitude and skill into games. His teammates struggle to score on him almost as much as opposing teams. But, when the other Eagles beat the first-round draft pick of the Vancouver Canucks, they make sure that he is well-aware.
"That's the funny thing; whenever we score on Cory, we're always celebrating and stuff, because he doesn't let in a lot in practice," joked teammate and close friend Mike Brennan.
Schneider responded: "All the guys let me know when they score on me. They don't let me get off the hook ever. It's very competitive. It's a fun little rivalry, but we all push each other."
It's not by accident that Schneider has become one of the elite goalies in college hockey. He works tirelessly to perfect his game, and makes himself not only a better hockey player, but a better athlete every day. And that is something that his teammates notice and respect in him.
"As a player, every day in practice, he comes to get better. He's focused. He's always taking extra shots, he works out after practice. He wants to be a player; he wants to be an athlete," Brennan said about Schneider's work ethic.
Schneider has a bright future, as he continues to progress and develop as a player, but he often opts to focus on the present — and the present is a good place to be right now, as the Eagles embark on their second consecutive trip to the Frozen Four in search of BC's third national championship.
Over the past three seasons, the junior has developed a penchant for coming up big when the team needs him the most: in the big games when the spotlight is shining the brightest. Schneider has played some of the best hockey of his Eagles career over the past six weeks, backstopping the squad to the nation's longest winning streak, which is now at 12 and counting. In that stretch, the junior goalie has posted a 1.60 goals-against average and .946 save percentage, collecting three shutouts in the process. He is making tough saves almost look routine and has certainly returned to the form that made him an All-American during the 2005-2006 campaign.
Schneider came to BC as a highly touted recruit, but his emergence on the Eagles squad came while sharing the spotlight. He spent his freshman year splitting time with since-graduated goalie Matti Kaltianen and adjusting to the change in tempo of the college game, a move he feels has helped in the long run.
"Coach kind of eased me into it. He didn't throw me against UNH and Maine the first few games," Schneider said. "Matti was there to kind of take those games and coach could put me in where he wanted to and kind of get in a nice rotation where they weren't counting on me every single night. I think that helps a lot as a freshman. It lets you get your feet wet and get used to the college game, and I think Matti really helped take a lot of pressure off my shoulders."
But late in the season, coach Jerry York decided to ride the young freshman in the playoffs and into the national tournament.
Schneider has proven that he can play at the highest level — and win at the highest level — having backstopped not only BC to Hockey East titles, but the U.S. under-18 national team to a gold medal in the 2003 world junior championships.
Schneider, though, struggled in his first run through the NCAAs freshman year, but felt that that experience helped him.
"I kind of got some exposure to it my freshman year in the Hockey East and the NCAA's and I think that helped a lot because I struggled a bit in the tournament my freshman year. When it's a big game, it's easy to get up for it, easy to get focused. You're nervous for a little bit, but once you see a few shots, you settle down. I think that the excitement and anticipation makes you more ready to go," he said.
Now, Brennan says, "He's a big-game goalie without a doubt. He comes up big whenever we need him in a huge, huge game, as you can see by this playoff run that we've had. I think it's his focus, his focus before games, during practice, he's always trying to get better."
Schneider and the Eagles battled through a rough stretch in the early portion of the season, dropping in the national polls from No. 1 to as low as No. 15. This year, BC has at times seemed in jeopardy of not making the NCAA Tournament, and part of the Eagle's struggles were between the pipes. On Oct. 20, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish came to Conte Forum and smoked the Eagles, 7-1. Schneider had one of his toughest outings of his career — though BC was able to recover, they couldn't gain any momentum or put together a winning streak longer than three games.
Inconsistency continued to plague the Eagles throughout the season, but when the Beanpot rolled around, the whole season turned for Jerry York's squad. Cory's early-season struggles, said York, could have stemmed from his previous success.
"I think we expect an awful lot of him," he said. "Our expectation is that he'd stop every single puck. I think he got into that framework during the year that, 'hey Coach, I have to be perfect, 1.000 percent save percentage, I'm a returning All-American.' He put a lot of pressure on himself."
York, who leads all active coaches in victories, explained how he helped his netminder, saying, "I just talked to him and told him to be athletic, relax a little bit Cory. It's almost like the golfer on the first tee, you're expecting him to hit it right down the middle all the time — and hey, Tiger doesn't hit it down the middle all the time."
"The whole year, the team was inconsistent in the first three quarters of the season," Schneider said. "But I think once they started playing well, I started playing well too. They started playing a little tighter D, and I started taking care of my own business. This streak here at the end has been huge, just to get back to where I know I can play and where I should have been playing the whole year."
And Schneider has been at the forefront of the turnaround. He has been lights-out recently and is certainly ready to carry the Eagles to a national title, the school's first since 2001. It is hardly surprising that Schneider's play has elevated at the same time as that of the entire squad. When he is at the top of his game, the rest of the team is able to play with the confidence that he will stop everything, and thus it allows the rest of the squad to take more chances and play in a more relaxed frame of mind.
"Having him back there gives you a lot of confidence," Brennan said. "But, at the same time, you can't get stuck in a complacent state of mind, which you can because he's so good and he's always back there when you need him and he comes up big for us."
And his teammates and the Eagles faithful hope that Schneider can come up big in the next two games.
"This year we're not just satisfied to be in the Frozen Four; we want more than that, so I think that's going to be a big driving force," Schneider said about the team's goal. "We want to finish out what we started here. For right now, I'm just focused on winning these two games."
Schneider not letting in goals during practice... I get reminded of Luongo and how he gets pissed when he lets in a goal during practice.
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 08:32 AM
Rinslet, on Apr 3 2007, 12:17 AM, said:
breeze: Does all the QMJHL playoff teams have something like that going on? Or Cape Breton just wanted something fun to do?
Ya, most Junior teams have some type of hair theme. Last here Luc's team (Moncton Wildcats all had yellow highlighted hair.
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 08:56 AM
hiroshima, on Apr 3 2007, 06:10 AM, said:
grabner didnt prove that he is a first rounder at all.bad pick nonis
What a moron, your defining this guys position as a first round draft pick based on six games, where Everret's goalie was and is a wall and their D was all over Grabner. It's a good bet the game plan for Everett was to take grabner out of it.
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:42 AM
good excuse bud.but he should be smart and good enough,to find a way,how to break this wall,and score goal,and be outstanding,like u guys always talking about him.like i mean,he is not a good stickhandler at all,all he can is skate and shoot the puck.he is not at all a stickhandler,compare to simek and shirokov.and he is not a physical player,he cant stand up for himself,simek can,he showed that this year,that he can score,he can give passes for a scoring chance,can hit,can skate, and he has a plus,that he played pro back home,so he will do better then grabner in AHL in my opinion.
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 10:56 AM
hiroshima, on Apr 3 2007, 09:42 AM, said:
good excuse bud.but he should be smart and good enough,to find a way,how to break this wall,and score goal,and be outstanding,like u guys always talking about him.like i mean,he is not a good stickhandler at all,all he can is skate and shoot the puck.he is not at all a stickhandler,compare to simek and shirokov.and he is not a physical player,he cant stand up for himself,simek can,he showed that this year,that he can score,he can give passes for a scoring chance,can hit,can skate, and he has a plus,that he played pro back home,so he will do better then grabner in AHL in my opinion.
Ok comparing Grabner and Simeks skating ability is like Bure vs the Sedins. Both can skate well but Grabner is lights out better than Simek. Goal scoring ability well Grabner scored more goals in less games and didn't play with Burki, Delargo, Klinkhammer all top end players in the WHL. Also, since there hasn't been any wind of Grabner going anywhere yet and since he sat out the last 4 reg season games. I have a funny feeling he played hurt the whole series. Grabner will be better than Simek for sure.
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:28 PM
hockeyboi89, on Apr 3 2007, 01:27 AM, said:
This may have been asked before, but I am curious if Grabner can join the Canucks or one of our affiliates now that his team has been bounced from the playoffs. With unlimited roster space in the playoffs I think (if we could) he should be brought up to be with the team and kind of get a feel of what the playoffs and what being a pro is all about. As for him playing a game in the playoffs that is obviously far-fetched but I wonder if he can be called up at all
my impression is that he can even play with the canucks if nonis allowed him to, but most likely he can play for the moose right now, consider that the chief is being eliminated in the playoffs, but i am no expert in this field, so better verify with toxic rd.
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:34 PM
Grabner can play for the Canucks yes, it wont happen though. If he began playing for the Moose, and he was called up we couldnt call up anyone else though, we only have 1 call-up left.
If he opts for pro this year, i think hell go to Victoria, the Moose roster is getting crowded, and the S-Kings sure as hell could use him, they actually have some good ECHL'ers he could play with as well, including a great ECHL set-up guy in F-P Guenette
If he opts for pro this year, i think hell go to Victoria, the Moose roster is getting crowded, and the S-Kings sure as hell could use him, they actually have some good ECHL'ers he could play with as well, including a great ECHL set-up guy in F-P Guenette
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 03:07 PM
toxic rd, on Apr 3 2007, 12:34 PM, said:
Grabner can play for the Canucks yes, it wont happen though. If he began playing for the Moose, and he was called up we couldnt call up anyone else though, we only have 1 call-up left.
If he opts for pro this year, i think hell go to Victoria, the Moose roster is getting crowded, and the S-Kings sure as hell could use him, they actually have some good ECHL'ers he could play with as well, including a great ECHL set-up guy in F-P Guenette
If he opts for pro this year, i think hell go to Victoria, the Moose roster is getting crowded, and the S-Kings sure as hell could use him, they actually have some good ECHL'ers he could play with as well, including a great ECHL set-up guy in F-P Guenette
I think he was talking about the playoffs where the amount of players allowed on the roster is unlimited. I don't think the call up rule applies to the playoffs so that wouldn't be a problem.
Also to answer hockeyboi89's question...Yes Grabner can be called up by either the Canucks, Moose or S-Kings. He is under contract with the Canucks and would probably have to sign an ATO with the Moose but it is a possibility that has been discussed several times. Getting a first hand experience at how the pro game is played would be great for a guy like Grabner but like you said, at this point in the season he wouldn't get much playing time.
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 04:24 PM
toxic rd, on Apr 3 2007, 12:34 PM, said:
Grabner can play for the Canucks yes, it wont happen though. If he began playing for the Moose, and he was called up we couldnt call up anyone else though, we only have 1 call-up left.
If he opts for pro this year, i think hell go to Victoria, the Moose roster is getting crowded, and the S-Kings sure as hell could use him, they actually have some good ECHL'ers he could play with as well, including a great ECHL set-up guy in F-P Guenette
If he opts for pro this year, i think hell go to Victoria, the Moose roster is getting crowded, and the S-Kings sure as hell could use him, they actually have some good ECHL'ers he could play with as well, including a great ECHL set-up guy in F-P Guenette
We have three call-ups left, Tremblay and Edler were emergencies. Rypien wasn't though. The rule doesn't apply once the playoffs start though.
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