[MrTubesteak]

The Imposter, on Apr 9 2007, 08:48 PM, said:

I have a question. How is it that Rahimi can come over now yet Shirokov cannot. Is there a difference in the Russian leagues and the other European leagues?

Well, the big difference is that there is currently no transfer agreement between the Russian Super League and the NHL. Whether or not that prevents Shirikov from coming over and playing/hang out with the Moose, I can't say for certain, but I suspect that has something to do with it. Every other Euro league has signed the transfer agreement with the NHL except for the Russians.

Instead of just allowing players to leave the Euro club and come to the NHL (I'm sure there's some financial compensation in there but I suspect its a flat fee for any player), the Russian teams want to deal with the NHL teams on a case by case basis (ie, Malkin and Ovechkin would cost a lot more than say Shirikov and Koltsov). This is a purely financial reason where the Russian clubs want to gouge the NHL teams when their best players want to leave for the NHL.

This is why the Russian prospects aren't being drafted as highly over the past couple of years (and why we got Shirikov much later than he might otherwise have gone).

[itzabreeze]

MrTubesteak, on Apr 9 2007, 11:14 PM, said:

Well, the big difference is that there is currently no transfer agreement between the Russian Super League and the NHL. Whether or not that prevents Shirikov from coming over and playing/hang out with the Moose, I can't say for certain, but I suspect that has something to do with it. Every other Euro league has signed the transfer agreement with the NHL except for the Russians.

Instead of just allowing players to leave the Euro club and come to the NHL (I'm sure there's some financial compensation in there but I suspect its a flat fee for any player), the Russian teams want to deal with the NHL teams on a case by case basis (ie, Malkin and Ovechkin would cost a lot more than say Shirikov and Koltsov). This is a purely financial reason where the Russian clubs want to gouge the NHL teams when their best players want to leave for the NHL.

This is why the Russian prospects aren't being drafted as highly over the past couple of years (and why we got Shirikov much later than he might otherwise have gone).

Yup, and I do believe that he was actually passed over (not drafted in his original eligible draft year)

[itzabreeze]

Pretty Good S-Kings Article:

http://echl.com/cgi-...n...=1&id=10696

Victoria Beats Alaska 3-2
Salmon Kings Lead Series 1-0
April 10, 2007


By Cleve Dheensaw
© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2007

The Victoria Salmon Kings proved they belong. The Salmon Kings' first playoff game in franchise history was also the first postseason victory in franchise history.

The ECHL National Conference seventh seed scored a stunning 3-2 upset over the No. 2 seed and defending Kelly Cup champion Alaska Aces here last night to take a 1-0 lead in their best-of-seven first-round series.

"We carried a lot of the play and it seems like they were just hanging on," said Alaska mentor and ECHL coach of the year Davis Payne. "It was a wake-up call and we have to come together awfully quickly. I'm sure Victoria feels right now that it can win the series."

But Alaska twice lost first games of series last spring in their march to the Kelly Cup. "We're not going to call Victoria a first round winner just yet," said Payne.

It was only Victoria's third win over Alaska in 12 games this season and just the fourth in the three-season and 32-game history of this rivalry. It couldn't have come at a more opportune time.

Victoria came into the contest with a nine-game winning streak to close out the regular season, while Alaska hadn't lost at home in the last 21 games at Sullivan Arena. Something had to give. It was the Aces.

It took, for one night at least, some of the swagger away from the Aces. The Aces entered the game with that quiet, confident glow of a champion. And no disrespect meant to the Salmon Kings, but the Aces simply cannot envision a universe where they don't advance out of the first round of the 2007 ECHL Kelly Cup playoffs. Being the defending champions gives you that air of invincibility, especially during the early rounds.

"Ours is a team of confidence and has been for the last three years," said veteran Aces forward Joe Talbot.

But Talbot and his mates didn't figure on a vastly improved Salmon Kings squad. Nor did the 3,713 noisy, cow-bell clanging fans.

The situation is completely different for the Vancouver Canucks-affiliate Salmon Kings, who finally made the Kelly Cup dance in their third season of existence. The first round IS a big deal.

"It's playoff hockey and we're all excited to be here," said Salmon Kings forward Ryan Wade. "This first game was really important for us in terms of confidence."

The Salmon Kings took it to the Aces in the first period and the pressure paid off when forward Milan Gajic's slapshot beat Alaska goaltender Derek Gustafson at 14:44. But the cagey Aces slowly began finding their feet and tied it 1-1 just 1:37 into the second period through Mike Scott on the short side. Victoria got that back later in the period on the power play with a Wes Goldie tip-in at 10:58. Another shot tipped in by Goldie made it 3-1 at 14:20 of the second period.

Matt Robinson brought the Aces to within one at 11:44 of the third period, but Victoria goaltender Julien Ellis was money the rest of the way making 14 third-period saves.

© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2007

[itzabreeze]

Prospect Games for Tuesday:

Playoffs:

Vancouver Giants @ Seattle (Bliznak)
Series Tied 1-1
Game #3



Wheat Kings @ Calgary (Simek)
Wheat Kings lead Series 2-0
Game #3



Cape Breton @ Acadie-Bathurst (Bourdon)
Cape leads Series 2-0
Game #3





S-Kings @ Alaska (Ellis)
Salmon Kings lead series 1-0
Game #2

[BluXington]

Haha cool hair going on with Bourdons team , happen to have a picture of him with the new hair color?.

[vincetheprince]

BluXington, on Apr 10 2007, 12:49 PM, said:

Haha cool hair going on with Bourdons team , happen to have a picture of him with the new hair color?.

http://i161.photobuc...7/lucplayo2.jpg

This post has been edited by vincetheprince: 10 April 2007 - 02:07 PM

[Toxic]

Arniel on the Moose radio show:

Grabner and Rahimi might get in on the Marlies games this weekend

[Toxic]

WTH, they're restricting the # of images i can have!!!

Man does this new board stink

[timw33]

toxic rd, on Apr 10 2007, 03:01 PM, said:

Arniel on the Moose radio show:

Grabner and Rahimi might get in on the Marlies games this weekend

Awesome news.

[Grabner]

timw33, on Apr 10 2007, 04:03 PM, said:

Awesome news.

That's great news, but that means he's already here...but we haven't heard much about him.

[ltrain]

rahimi is already in manitoba??? Fantastic!!!

[Rough Neck]

Shirokov should pull a Malkin and just sneak over.

[timw33]

Cape Breton up 4-2.

Bourdon +1, 2PIM.

[Dortmund]

timw33, on Apr 10 2007, 05:51 PM, said:

Cape Breton up 4-2.

Bourdon +1, 2PIM.

You can change that to complete 3rd period collapse by the Cape Breton eagles..it's now 4-4 and Luc is now a -1

[Fedor_Chubarov]

The Imposter, on Apr 9 2007, 08:48 PM, said:

I have a question. How is it that Rahimi can come over now yet Shirokov cannot. Is there a difference in the Russian leagues and the other European leagues?

Guys who have gone pro like Koltsov Chubarov Norronen Balej King and Shirokov cannot come over after oct 5th if they play in a game after that point for whatever league they have signed with. If they hold out and do not play they have until dec 1st to deal with their NHL team and come over. After dec 1st or if playing after the NHL season starts they are ineligable to play the current season and have to wait for the next one.

On the other hand you have Rahimi Grabner and Raymond guys who were not playing in PROFESSIONAL LEAGUES and sign an ATO to go pro (amateur try out) in previous years Skinner and Bieksa hopped on the moose caboose with ATO's after leaving NCAA, like Raymond this year or Rypien after his WHL/CHL seasons. On top of the ATO signings some players like Grabner and Rahimi i believe were signed around camp but didn't go pro, and seem to just get assigned when they are ready.

I don't know if that helps, but basically it's restrictive to pro hockey players, where Rahimi was not in the Swedish Elite League, his league or teir or whatever counts as junior or amateur, and would not be able to join the moose from the Elite league

[Blister Soul]

Ah, thanks. That clears it up for me.

[vincetheprince]

Dortmund, on Apr 10 2007, 05:04 PM, said:

You can change that to complete 3rd period collapse by the Cape Breton eagles..it's now 4-4 and Luc is now a -1

And 1 assist. He also finished even.

They lost 5-4 in OT

This post has been edited by vincetheprince: 10 April 2007 - 06:44 PM

[Toxic]

Man, i hope Spencer Machacek falls deep in the draft to us, he's having a great playoff but is a relative unknown.

I'm still waiting for this organization to pick more g-men

[Rinslet]

Looks like Bliznak had a goal, +3 for Giants 9-2 win. Simek was a -3 in an 1-8 loss.

[timw33]

Evan Fuller continues to impress in the playoffs with 1G, 1A tonight.