[timw33]

Sportnet power poll on who the best Canuck prospect is:

48 Bourdon
23 Hansen
10 Schnieder
7 Fedor Fedorov (the joke selection)
6 Grabner
5 Edler
2 Raymond

[itzabreeze]

Im back.... I don't know where the hell to start.

Hansen..... Playoffs..... 1st nhl game.....

[timw33]

itzabreeze, on Apr 16 2007, 11:39 PM, said:

Im back.... I don't know where the hell to start.

Hansen..... Playoffs..... 1st nhl game.....

Good trip Itza?

[itzabreeze]

timw33, on Apr 16 2007, 11:45 PM, said:

Good trip Itza?

Well no, I was on a business trip, out of country and almost missed a week of Playoffs. So it sucked. I think I was able to get a couple of playoff games + the Moose game taped so I think I'll survive.

[itzabreeze]

So, appearently everyone thinks Hansen in better then Grabs now eh?

[ModoExpress]

itzabreeze, on Apr 16 2007, 11:49 PM, said:

So, appearently everyone thinks Hansen in better then Grabs now eh?

i wouldn't go that far, but hes been really good these past couple games

i never knew he was such a big kid, and hes a very good skater

hard to imagine why arneil would bench the kid

[timw33]

itzabreeze, on Apr 16 2007, 11:49 PM, said:

So, appearently everyone thinks Hansen in better then Grabs now eh?

That is to be expected from fans who don't follow our prospects often.

But good for Hansen.

[NucksTillIDie]

Anyone have any updates on the next Moose game? When do thier playoffs start?

[BluXington]

timw33, on Apr 17 2007, 12:09 AM, said:

That is to be expected from fans who don't follow our prospects often.

But good for Hansen.

When the only time the casual fan hears about Grabner is in the Province and he is being talked about in a bad light its not hard to see why people don't think too highly of him yet.

Its a case of "What Have You Done For Me Latelly" , syndrome.

And the people who Picked Fedor where probably either going along with the joke or are clueless idiots.

[Vancouver_Canucks]

I am curious to see training camp next season, that 6th defenseman spot could be up for grabs right?

This post has been edited by Vancouver_Canucks: 17 April 2007 - 08:28 AM

[lfergs]

Yep, it's there for the taking:
Salo/Ohlund
Mitchell/Bieksa
Kraijeck/Bourdon, Koltsov, Edler, Rahimi, Sopel hahah man he's been poor

This post has been edited by lfergs: 17 April 2007 - 10:19 AM

[itzabreeze]

Good Hansen Article:

Moose rookie a hit with the big club
Hansen beefs up Canuck attack
http://slam.canoe.ca...045341-sun.html

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There were a few eyebrows raised when the Vancouver Canucks summoned Jannik Hansen from the Manitoba Moose last week.

Considering the Canucks were down a physical, aggressive winger in Matt Cooke after the first game in the series with the Dallas Stars, recalling Hansen, a skinny rookie who does carry some raw skill, seemed strange for the grinding style of the parent club.

An odd choice? Maybe. Wrong choice? Not even close, as here we are, talking about the speedy winger and eyebrow-raising in a whole different context.

"We all watched the game, I think we'd all agree that he was one of the better players on the ice," Mike Keane said after practice yesterday.

The captain, a three-time Stanley Cup champion, wasn't the only member of the Moose raving about the work Hansen did during Vancouver's 2-1 overtime victory in Game 3.

"I'd put Jannik Hansen as one of the best forwards for the Canucks (Sunday)," said coach Scott Arniel. "Getting to be a part of that tying goal, it's great to see him making the most of his chances."

JITTERY DEBUT

After a jittery NHL debut Friday night, Hansen, who had 12 goals and 34 points in 72 games for the Moose, settled into a big part of the Canucks attack Sunday.

On a line with Markus Naslund and Brendan Morrison to begin the game, Vancouver coach Alain Vigneault decided to switch things around, landing Hansen still with Morrison, but with Jan Bulis on the other side.

The move paid off as Bulis scored the goal that sent the game to overtime, with Hansen drawing an assist on the play.

Hansen was a threat for the Canucks every time he took a shift in the third period and overtime session. His 15:27 of ice time was more than NHL regulars Bryan Smolinski, Jeff Cowan, and Taylor Pyatt.

Did we mention Hansen was the fifth-last player taken in the 2004 NHL entry draft (287th overall)?

"I don't think he knows any better at this point," Keane said about the 21-year-old. "He got called up, the next thing you know you're playing in the Stanley Cup (playoffs).

"If he had a couple days to sit on it, I think it'd be 'Gee, I hope I don't screw up, I hope I don't do this.'"

Moose defenceman Alex Edler knows what Keane is talking about. Getting that first promotion to the parent club is an experience a young player can't even begin to prepare for.

It doesn't matter how many teammates you talk with, or how many different pieces of advice you receive from family and friends, keeping the emotion (and fear) in check is the toughest part.

According to the gifted first-year Swede, who has been up and down all season, the actual hockey itself is where things begin to calm.

"You get really excited when you go up there, and I think in one way it's easier to play up there sometimes because your teammates are so skilled and always in the right position," Edler said.

"That makes it easier, but of course, the other teams are a lot more skilled, too. It's easier and harder at the same time."

Arniel doesn't expect Hansen (or Nathan Smith, who is playing a prominent penalty-killing role with the Canucks) to be in the line-up when the Moose host Grand Rapids for Game 1 of the North Division semifinal Thursday (7:30 p.m., MTS Centre).

[Canadian]

I think that out of the defensive prospects, Ramimi will probably spend the full season with the Moose, Bourdon (unless he has a spectacular camp) will probably see the same type of deal as this year. Edler, in my opinion, will get a full-time job with the Canucks because he has already put his one year in with the Moose. And finally, if Koltsov comes over, he will either make Krajicek expendable for a trade, or rotate in 6/7 slots with him.

Quick question to all the regulars in this thread. I know there's been a thread on this already, but would any of you trade Schneider for a top-centre prospect? ie Players that are really close to breaking into the NHL as full-time guys (not guys 2-3 years away),eg. a Brule, or a Toews (I know he's not going to be traded) or players similar to them

[sami-glass]

Canadian, on Apr 17 2007, 10:38 AM, said:

I think that out of the defensive prospects, Ramimi will probably spend the full season with the Moose, Bourdon (unless he has a spectacular camp) will probably see the same type of deal as this year. Edler, in my opinion, will get a full-time job with the Canucks because he has already put his one year in with the Moose. And finally, if Koltsov comes over, he will either make Krajicek expendable for a trade, or rotate in 6/7 slots with him.

Quick question to all the regulars in this thread. I know there's been a thread on this already, but would any of you trade Schneider for a top-centre prospect? ie Players that are really close to breaking into the NHL as full-time guys (not guys 2-3 years away),eg. a Brule, or a Toews (I know he's not going to be traded) or players similar to them

i asked dave tomlinson the exact same question, on the radio, and he really emphasized the need for depth, referring to tandems like toskala/nabokov, vokoun/mason and gerber/ ward last year.

In my opinion, i think we should try and hold onto schneider, i think that our scouts have done a nice job, restocking our prospects, with relative quietness. I know we still are in need of a big centre, but i'm hoping that the canucks use their first and second round pick to pick up a guy like oscar moller, lars eller (not sure if he's a C). just my 2 cents.

[lfergs]

Canadian, on Apr 17 2007, 10:38 AM, said:

I think that out of the defensive prospects, Ramimi will probably spend the full season with the Moose, Bourdon (unless he has a spectacular camp) will probably see the same type of deal as this year. Edler, in my opinion, will get a full-time job with the Canucks because he has already put his one year in with the Moose. And finally, if Koltsov comes over, he will either make Krajicek expendable for a trade, or rotate in 6/7 slots with him.

Quick question to all the regulars in this thread. I know there's been a thread on this already, but would any of you trade Schneider for a top-centre prospect? ie Players that are really close to breaking into the NHL as full-time guys (not guys 2-3 years away),eg. a Brule, or a Toews (I know he's not going to be traded) or players similar to them

I sure would. Although Schneider is going to be a legitamate #1 we already have that, yet it wouold be nice if Schneider could learn from Luongo but again playing 10 games/year is not going to help him develop.

Our top center prospect right now is Rypien, and to get a guy back of the calibre you mentoned would be more eneficial than a #1 NHL goalie playing for the Moose the next four years.

[Millerdraft]

ModoExpress, on Apr 17 2007, 12:09 AM, said:

i wouldn't go that far, but hes been really good these past couple games

i never knew he was such a big kid, and hes a very good skater

hard to imagine why arneil would bench the kid

It's called "building character". He made Jannik mentally work through adversity and at the end of the day, after tenaciously hard work, Arniel elevated Hansen to the top line just prior to his callup. Arniel is a fantastic coach who had been working this same formula with all the Afinogenovs, Vaneks, Kotaliks, etc. He knows what he's doing playing Hansen with Mike Keane for 3/4 of the year and then letting him loose offensively come April.

[Vancouver_Canucks]

Millerdraft, on Apr 17 2007, 11:04 AM, said:

It's called "building character". He made Jannik mentally work through adversity and at the end of the day, after tenaciously hard work, Arniel elevated Hansen to the top line just prior to his callup. Arniel is a fantastic coach who had been working this same formula with all the Afinogenovs, Vaneks, Kotaliks, etc. He knows what he's doing playing Hansen with Mike Keane for 3/4 of the year and then letting him loose offensively come April.

They wanted to improve his defensive aspect of his game right so they put him in a checking line for most the season?

[Blister Soul]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens in the 6th-7th D-man spot as someone said above. I'm hoping Edler and Koltsov can be semi-regulars but I do like Rory's defensive play...

[Millerdraft]

Vancouver_Canucks, on Apr 17 2007, 02:19 PM, said:

They wanted to improve his defensive aspect of his game right so they put him in a checking line for most the season?

Yeah. Arniel has been developing Hansen properly for play in the NHL.

1) He's taught him a defense first approach, which fits our style, by playing him on the third line with NHL veteran and defensive specialist, Mike Keane.
2) He's taught him how to produce offense with limited third line minutes since Jannik has most likely been the best player, 1st liner, on every team he's played until his time in North America. It's a mental adjustment.
3) He's prepared him to deal with mental adversity. There was no reason offensively at the time for Hansen to be benched/scratched and Jannik kind of wilted at first under this tough approach. In the end though it did him good and he worked harder and harder to first get back into the lineup, and then even harder to make his way to the top line. In short, Arniel made him earn it and then rewarded him for his tremendous effort.

Arniel has alot of experience with young, talented players and what it takes to prepare them mentally, and physically, for the big leagues. Think of the confidence problems Afinogenov must've had when he first came over and couldn't finish on glorious chances. Or the defensive holes in Vanek's game. Arniel deserves a little credit for Sabre success too, not just Lindy Ruff.

[Toxic]

I dont doubt Arniel's ends work, but the ways he goes about getting there make me worrysome