[lfergs]

Yep, it's there for the taking:
Salo/Ohlund
Mitchell/Bieksa
Kraijeck/Bourdon, Koltsov, Edler, Rahimi, Sopel hahah man he's been poor

This post has been edited by lfergs: 17 April 2007 - 10:19 AM

[itzabreeze]

Good Hansen Article:

Moose rookie a hit with the big club
Hansen beefs up Canuck attack
http://slam.canoe.ca...045341-sun.html

\\
There were a few eyebrows raised when the Vancouver Canucks summoned Jannik Hansen from the Manitoba Moose last week.

Considering the Canucks were down a physical, aggressive winger in Matt Cooke after the first game in the series with the Dallas Stars, recalling Hansen, a skinny rookie who does carry some raw skill, seemed strange for the grinding style of the parent club.

An odd choice? Maybe. Wrong choice? Not even close, as here we are, talking about the speedy winger and eyebrow-raising in a whole different context.

"We all watched the game, I think we'd all agree that he was one of the better players on the ice," Mike Keane said after practice yesterday.

The captain, a three-time Stanley Cup champion, wasn't the only member of the Moose raving about the work Hansen did during Vancouver's 2-1 overtime victory in Game 3.

"I'd put Jannik Hansen as one of the best forwards for the Canucks (Sunday)," said coach Scott Arniel. "Getting to be a part of that tying goal, it's great to see him making the most of his chances."

JITTERY DEBUT

After a jittery NHL debut Friday night, Hansen, who had 12 goals and 34 points in 72 games for the Moose, settled into a big part of the Canucks attack Sunday.

On a line with Markus Naslund and Brendan Morrison to begin the game, Vancouver coach Alain Vigneault decided to switch things around, landing Hansen still with Morrison, but with Jan Bulis on the other side.

The move paid off as Bulis scored the goal that sent the game to overtime, with Hansen drawing an assist on the play.

Hansen was a threat for the Canucks every time he took a shift in the third period and overtime session. His 15:27 of ice time was more than NHL regulars Bryan Smolinski, Jeff Cowan, and Taylor Pyatt.

Did we mention Hansen was the fifth-last player taken in the 2004 NHL entry draft (287th overall)?

"I don't think he knows any better at this point," Keane said about the 21-year-old. "He got called up, the next thing you know you're playing in the Stanley Cup (playoffs).

"If he had a couple days to sit on it, I think it'd be 'Gee, I hope I don't screw up, I hope I don't do this.'"

Moose defenceman Alex Edler knows what Keane is talking about. Getting that first promotion to the parent club is an experience a young player can't even begin to prepare for.

It doesn't matter how many teammates you talk with, or how many different pieces of advice you receive from family and friends, keeping the emotion (and fear) in check is the toughest part.

According to the gifted first-year Swede, who has been up and down all season, the actual hockey itself is where things begin to calm.

"You get really excited when you go up there, and I think in one way it's easier to play up there sometimes because your teammates are so skilled and always in the right position," Edler said.

"That makes it easier, but of course, the other teams are a lot more skilled, too. It's easier and harder at the same time."

Arniel doesn't expect Hansen (or Nathan Smith, who is playing a prominent penalty-killing role with the Canucks) to be in the line-up when the Moose host Grand Rapids for Game 1 of the North Division semifinal Thursday (7:30 p.m., MTS Centre).

[Canadian]

I think that out of the defensive prospects, Ramimi will probably spend the full season with the Moose, Bourdon (unless he has a spectacular camp) will probably see the same type of deal as this year. Edler, in my opinion, will get a full-time job with the Canucks because he has already put his one year in with the Moose. And finally, if Koltsov comes over, he will either make Krajicek expendable for a trade, or rotate in 6/7 slots with him.

Quick question to all the regulars in this thread. I know there's been a thread on this already, but would any of you trade Schneider for a top-centre prospect? ie Players that are really close to breaking into the NHL as full-time guys (not guys 2-3 years away),eg. a Brule, or a Toews (I know he's not going to be traded) or players similar to them

[sami-glass]

Canadian, on Apr 17 2007, 10:38 AM, said:

I think that out of the defensive prospects, Ramimi will probably spend the full season with the Moose, Bourdon (unless he has a spectacular camp) will probably see the same type of deal as this year. Edler, in my opinion, will get a full-time job with the Canucks because he has already put his one year in with the Moose. And finally, if Koltsov comes over, he will either make Krajicek expendable for a trade, or rotate in 6/7 slots with him.

Quick question to all the regulars in this thread. I know there's been a thread on this already, but would any of you trade Schneider for a top-centre prospect? ie Players that are really close to breaking into the NHL as full-time guys (not guys 2-3 years away),eg. a Brule, or a Toews (I know he's not going to be traded) or players similar to them

i asked dave tomlinson the exact same question, on the radio, and he really emphasized the need for depth, referring to tandems like toskala/nabokov, vokoun/mason and gerber/ ward last year.

In my opinion, i think we should try and hold onto schneider, i think that our scouts have done a nice job, restocking our prospects, with relative quietness. I know we still are in need of a big centre, but i'm hoping that the canucks use their first and second round pick to pick up a guy like oscar moller, lars eller (not sure if he's a C). just my 2 cents.

[lfergs]

Canadian, on Apr 17 2007, 10:38 AM, said:

I think that out of the defensive prospects, Ramimi will probably spend the full season with the Moose, Bourdon (unless he has a spectacular camp) will probably see the same type of deal as this year. Edler, in my opinion, will get a full-time job with the Canucks because he has already put his one year in with the Moose. And finally, if Koltsov comes over, he will either make Krajicek expendable for a trade, or rotate in 6/7 slots with him.

Quick question to all the regulars in this thread. I know there's been a thread on this already, but would any of you trade Schneider for a top-centre prospect? ie Players that are really close to breaking into the NHL as full-time guys (not guys 2-3 years away),eg. a Brule, or a Toews (I know he's not going to be traded) or players similar to them

I sure would. Although Schneider is going to be a legitamate #1 we already have that, yet it wouold be nice if Schneider could learn from Luongo but again playing 10 games/year is not going to help him develop.

Our top center prospect right now is Rypien, and to get a guy back of the calibre you mentoned would be more eneficial than a #1 NHL goalie playing for the Moose the next four years.

[Millerdraft]

ModoExpress, on Apr 17 2007, 12:09 AM, said:

i wouldn't go that far, but hes been really good these past couple games

i never knew he was such a big kid, and hes a very good skater

hard to imagine why arneil would bench the kid

It's called "building character". He made Jannik mentally work through adversity and at the end of the day, after tenaciously hard work, Arniel elevated Hansen to the top line just prior to his callup. Arniel is a fantastic coach who had been working this same formula with all the Afinogenovs, Vaneks, Kotaliks, etc. He knows what he's doing playing Hansen with Mike Keane for 3/4 of the year and then letting him loose offensively come April.

[Vancouver_Canucks]

Millerdraft, on Apr 17 2007, 11:04 AM, said:

It's called "building character". He made Jannik mentally work through adversity and at the end of the day, after tenaciously hard work, Arniel elevated Hansen to the top line just prior to his callup. Arniel is a fantastic coach who had been working this same formula with all the Afinogenovs, Vaneks, Kotaliks, etc. He knows what he's doing playing Hansen with Mike Keane for 3/4 of the year and then letting him loose offensively come April.

They wanted to improve his defensive aspect of his game right so they put him in a checking line for most the season?

[Blister Soul]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens in the 6th-7th D-man spot as someone said above. I'm hoping Edler and Koltsov can be semi-regulars but I do like Rory's defensive play...

[Millerdraft]

Vancouver_Canucks, on Apr 17 2007, 02:19 PM, said:

They wanted to improve his defensive aspect of his game right so they put him in a checking line for most the season?

Yeah. Arniel has been developing Hansen properly for play in the NHL.

1) He's taught him a defense first approach, which fits our style, by playing him on the third line with NHL veteran and defensive specialist, Mike Keane.
2) He's taught him how to produce offense with limited third line minutes since Jannik has most likely been the best player, 1st liner, on every team he's played until his time in North America. It's a mental adjustment.
3) He's prepared him to deal with mental adversity. There was no reason offensively at the time for Hansen to be benched/scratched and Jannik kind of wilted at first under this tough approach. In the end though it did him good and he worked harder and harder to first get back into the lineup, and then even harder to make his way to the top line. In short, Arniel made him earn it and then rewarded him for his tremendous effort.

Arniel has alot of experience with young, talented players and what it takes to prepare them mentally, and physically, for the big leagues. Think of the confidence problems Afinogenov must've had when he first came over and couldn't finish on glorious chances. Or the defensive holes in Vanek's game. Arniel deserves a little credit for Sabre success too, not just Lindy Ruff.

[Toxic]

I dont doubt Arniel's ends work, but the ways he goes about getting there make me worrysome

[Wadim]

Just look at his treatment oF Reid for an example, tough loe doesn't work for everyone. Luckily it seems to be working for Hansen and Edler, and next year we'll see how he does with Bourdon, Rahimi, Grabner, Raymond and Simek.

To add, I fear Arniel coachig Grabner. I don't think Grabner will thrive in the Moose environment like Raymond has.

This post has been edited by Wadim: 17 April 2007 - 03:21 PM

[-mb]

Wow... after seemingly wasting my time writing up a playoff prospect update I noticed toxic had updated the Prospects Page on CDC.

So for all the lazy people who are interested here it is. LINK

This post has been edited by -mb: 17 April 2007 - 03:31 PM

[Millerdraft]

toxic rd, on Apr 17 2007, 02:45 PM, said:

I dont doubt Arniel's ends work, but the ways he goes about getting there make me worrysome

I hear ya but, as I'm sure you know, different players have different mental make-ups. There is no question Hansen has been perfectly groomed for right now. I have a sneaking suspicion Hansen really struggles with confidence and thus Arniel has taken a "tough love" approach in building him up. I don't think Raymond will get the same treatment as Hansen did, but Grabner might.

[Millerdraft]

Wadim, on Apr 17 2007, 03:20 PM, said:

Just look at his treatment oF Reid for an example, tough loe doesn't work for everyone. Luckily it seems to be working for Hansen and Edler, and next year we'll see how he does with Bourdon, Rahimi, Grabner, Raymond and Simek.

To add, I fear Arniel coachig Grabner. I don't think Grabner will thrive in the Moose environment like Raymond has.

I'm sorry but Reid was a bust looooooong before Arniel got there.

[jayRmichigan]

Went to the Cougars game last night, and it was friggin' awesome! Irving got chased out of the net in the first 10 minutes.

But oh boy, the Sharks have something great in 'Guch! Everytime he touched the puck something happened. He had 3 good scoring chances, and made some incredible passes.

... Fuller was alright.

Can't wait for the Giants!!

This post has been edited by jayRmichigan: 17 April 2007 - 03:44 PM

[hiroshima]

well simek wont play in the WHL,he will be to good.time for him to turn pro

[Toxic]

-mb, on Apr 17 2007, 03:28 PM, said:

Wow... after seemingly wasting my time writing up a playoff prospect update I noticed toxic had updated the Prospects Page on CDC.

So for all the lazy people who are interested here it is. LINK

[Millerdraft]

hiroshima, on Apr 17 2007, 03:46 PM, said:

well simek wont play in the WHL,he will be to good.time for him to turn pro

I don't wanna see your computer screen when he eventually does turn pro.

I'm gonna need some serious therapy after that mental image.

[-mb]

toxic rd, on Apr 17 2007, 04:11 PM, said:

Yeah I was lucky I checked up on it. It was mostly stats and stuff for the people who didn't have the time to look it all up. And a few minutes in I figured I would check when it was you last updated. Lucky for me I didn't do it all for nothing

[timw33]

hiroshima, on Apr 17 2007, 03:46 PM, said:

well simek wont play in the WHL,he will be to good.time for him to turn pro

I think I've found my first cantidate for ignored users.

I so sick of listening to your penis talk about Simek.

There might not be enough room on the Moose and it might do Simek good to play another year in the WHL.

We will see after training camp, he is not too good for the WHL.