[Rinslet]

itzabreeze, on Apr 26 2007, 10:33 PM, said:

Hansen to play Friday

Source: Sportnet

Good. I love watching Hansen play, especially when he has the puck on the offensive zone.

[lfergs]

Here's a Rahimi fight: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=SahvwEtagnY



and a graduated prospect in Ryan Kesler, the most underated player on the team and will be the most desireable next year, fighting Jerom Iginla. Old I know but boy do I miss him:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=u1u-O0LLmUA

This post has been edited by lfergs: 26 April 2007 - 11:47 PM

[King of Anarchy]

lost canuck, on Apr 26 2007, 09:37 PM, said:

Toxic, Timw, Breeze know more than anyone on the board about prospects and I use this as my source so I think it's like a... magazine sort of
I don't think people own it but Toxic is in cahrge

( )

I’m not really Anti-Euro, but I would like us to draft a big Canadian center man, or at least a center man that has played the North American game for at least a year. Preferably MacMillan or Sutter, and trust me, I know that Calgary’s probably going to draft him, but I can wish, can’t I?

[timw33]

Oscar Moller sure plays a NA gritty style, but he's Swedish, we shouldn't draft him.

Daniel Rahimi is a big bruising bad donkey, but he's European, we should trade him.

Hansen layed out Daryl Sydor ( A canadian), but he's Danish so that means he's a p*ssy.

Esposito plays a passionless selfish game without any edge or grit, we should draft him, he's Canadian.

The Euro Argument is flawed, Europeans can play the North American game and they have for years.

SOME europeans shy away from physicality, but so do some North American players.

This board obviously watch too much Coach's Corner.

Tons of poeple are hounding after Nonis for "not DRFTING K0ptar!1! Goalz!"

but I guarentee you that if we were to draft Kopitar on that day, the fans and CDC would be hounding him for drafting some soft Euro from Slovenia(where the f*** is that?) and that we should've got some good Canadian talent like Bourdon.

[King of Anarchy]

timw33, on Apr 27 2007, 12:01 AM, said:

Oscar Moller sure plays a NA gritty style, but he's Swedish, we shouldn't draft him.

Daniel Rahimi is a big bruising bad donkey, but he's European, we should trade him.

Hansen layed out Daryl Sydor ( A canadian), but he's Danish so that means he's a p*ssy.

Esposito plays a passionless selfish game without any edge or grit, we should draft him, he's Canadian.

The Euro Argument is flawed, Europeans can play the North American game and they have for years.

SOME europeans shy away from physicality, but so do some North American players.

This board obviously watch too much Coach's Corner.

Tons of poeple are hounding after Nonis for "not DRFTING K0ptar!1! Goalz!"

but I guarentee you that if we were to draft Kopitar on that day, the fans and CDC would be hounding him for drafting some soft Euro from Slovenia(where the f*** is that?) and that we should've got some good Canadian talent like Bourdon.

Overreact much? All I said is that I hope we draft a big Canadian center man; I didn't go ripping all prospects like you just did. Calm the f*** down buddy.

This post has been edited by TonyG: 27 April 2007 - 12:34 AM

[Edler #23]

Aslong as we don't draft any wussy donkey players like the Sedin, Naslund, Morrison I will be happy!

Draft a Patrick Marleau, Joe Thornton, Lecavlier type power forward!

[timw33]

TonyG, on Apr 27 2007, 12:30 AM, said:

Overreact much? All I said is that I hope we draft a big Canadian center man; I didn't go ripping all prospects like you just did. Calm the f*** down buddy.

That was not directed at you TonyG.....

The was just a general rant I was having about the Euro prejudice going on around here.

[King of Anarchy]

timw33, on Apr 27 2007, 02:29 AM, said:

That was not directed at you TonyG.....

The was just a general rant I was having about the Euro prejudice going on around here.

Oh, well, carry on then.

[timw33]

TonyG, on Apr 27 2007, 02:48 AM, said:

Oh, well, carry on then.

Always do.

[Cooke_Hart]

timw33, on Apr 27 2007, 02:29 AM, said:

That was not directed at you TonyG.....

The was just a general rant I was having about the Euro prejudice going on around here.

I think for the most part the anti Euro sentiment comes specifically from the Europeans on the Canucks. None of them have particularly stepped up and there are high profile contrasts such as captain Naslund really struggling (according to most) where as the people's captain Linden has stepped up his game.

I always feel that we sould take the best player available. All things being equal then choose the one that best fits our needs. All things still being equal choose a local who may have a little extra pride in playing for a team they grew up watching.

Leaning towards needs is obviously common sense but I don't think it's something to lean over board about. Situations change so much by the time drafted players are ready (unless you're talkin Crosby etc...) that the needs probably won't be the same anymore. Players you didn't expect have stepped up, injuries and trades have taken place etc... Take Cory Schneider for example. We obviously need goaltending when we took him. That's obviously not the case anymore. But wait, we may need him again in 4 years when as a goaltender he's just coming into his own. You just can't account for the future.


Sheesh. I ended up putting a lot more into that post then I expected.

[Boudrias]

Even up I would take a player out of the WHL without fail.

A challenge that Euros are faced with is the intensity of NHL play and the simple duration of the season. To be fair can anyone deny that Daniel Alfredson is not the same player he was 5 years ago. He has overcome where many others have not. I can pick far more NA players, particularly Canadian, who have picked their teams up and led them to Stanley. Classics are Gretzky, Stevie Y, Orr, Geo Armstrong, Tim Horton, and Guy Lafleur. The list goes on. Canada's dominance at World Juniors speaks for itself.

When it comes to the draft Van has to continue their rebuilding up the middle by drafting big centermen. I prefer they be hardnosed Canadian kids who understand the game. IMO you draft there because it is the core of your forward squad and probably where your leadership will come from. The wing positions can be supplimented by free agency or trades. NHL youth movements are leaving some pretty decent wingers looking for a home.

This is probably sounding pretty anti-Euro and maybe it is a little bit. Some of the most talented players over the past 20 years have been European, no argument. But I will argue until midnight that the best hockey players in the world are Canadian. I would take odds that if the core of my team is Canadian it will win!

[Lost Canuck]

TonyG, on Apr 26 2007, 11:51 PM, said:

( )

I’m not really Anti-Euro, but I would like us to draft a big Canadian center man, or at least a center man that has played the North American game for at least a year. Preferably MacMillan or Sutter, and trust me, I know that Calgary’s probably going to draft him, but I can wish, can’t I?

what kissing up to me?
It was a jole earlier that Nonis should draft Turris. IF you had read my earlier posts yesterday...

[Dortmund]

You know what is nice about drafting a guy like MacMillan is you know he's at least going to have a good line mate next year(He plays with Voracek). The toughest part of the questions that surround Grabner and his play this year were they cause because a lack of him getting open or the lack of quality linemates? Nobody hopefully judges him based on the fact he's not playing for the Moose right now because the back log of players in the press box is huge on that team.

The only reason why I'd like to see a bunch of Canadians drafted in this years draft is the fact we are short on them, adding Canadian prospects would actually add diversity to our list. We've drafted a lot of Euros in the past few drafts. The best teams in the NHL have a solid diversity. Obviously though as long as the Canucks go with the best player available approach none of us will be unhappy.

This post has been edited by Dortmund: 27 April 2007 - 07:49 AM

[Lost Canuck]

Dortmund, on Apr 27 2007, 07:48 AM, said:

You know what is nice about drafting a guy like MacMillan is you know he's at least going to have a good line mate next year(He plays with Voracek). The toughest part of the questions that surround Grabner and his play this year were they cause because a lack of him getting open or the lack of quality linemates? Nobody hopefully judges him based on the fact he's not playing for the Moose right now because the back log of players in the press box is huge on that team.

The only reason why I'd like to see a bunch of Canadians drafted in this years draft is the fact we are short on them, adding Canadian prospects would actually add diversity to our list. We've drafted a lot of Euros in the past few drafts. The best teams in the NHL have a solid diversity. Obviously though as long as the Canucks go with the best player available approach none of us will be unhappy.

Yeah we need someone to fill Linden's shoes cause he's gonna retire soon.
We need a Swede to fill Naslund's shoes (I think)

[Dortmund]

Boudrias, on Apr 27 2007, 07:18 AM, said:

This is probably sounding pretty anti-Euro and maybe it is a little bit. Some of the most talented players over the past 20 years have been European, no argument. But I will argue until midnight that the best hockey players in the world are Canadian. I would take odds that if the core of my team is Canadian it will win!

The right Euro/Canadian combo is what this team needs. If someone says the Sedins are soft I'd like to see them go into the corners against the top D pairing of any NHL team night in night out. That isn't soft hockey. We need more size skill combo up front is our real problem, not taking anything from Pyatt but someone his size with more consistency would be nice. I've never had a problem with our 3rd and 4th lines, especially when healthy Kesler and Cooke add a lot of pop. Anyways back to prospects, or furture prospects should I say, imagine this future line combo:

Raymond Veillieux(6'5)Sutter(6'2.5) Grabner a size,speed, skill line

[itzabreeze]

Friday Prospect Games!:

PLAYOFFS:

Val-d'Or @ Cape Breton (Bourdon)
SEMI-FINALS
Game #5
Cape leads Series 3-1
FREE WEBCAST: Game Time 3:00PM PT
http://eastlink.ca/e...ing/webcast.ram

Val-d'Or:
Reg. Season Points: 88
Players to watch:
Jérôme Samson
Brad Marchand
Kristopher Letang

Cape Breton:
Reg. Season Points: 94
Players to watch:
Bourdon.....
Bourdon....
Bourdon...
Bourdon..
Some James Sheppard kid.
Bourdon.



Are mean, mother f***er Canadian player



Grand Rapids @ Moose (Raymond, Grabner, Rahimi & Friends)
Series Tied 2-2
Game #5
Moose Reg. Season Points: 102
Grand Rapids Reg. Season Points: 85
Note: Game can be watched online for around $6 at http://www.b2livetv....terschedule.asp
NOTE: Edler called up to Nucks.






Nucks @ Disney Land
Game #2....
Are Soft Euro Forward.... Hansen


Ohlund's EURO Twin who is better then Fitz, Sopel and Trembley, AKA "Edler".


NOTE: The paper this mourning said that Hansen will be playing with Green/Burrows.

PG @ Giants (Bliznak)
Gianys Lead Series 3-1

This post has been edited by itzabreeze: 27 April 2007 - 10:19 AM

[Rinslet]

Cooke_Hart, on Apr 27 2007, 03:03 AM, said:

I think for the most part the anti Euro sentiment comes specifically from the Europeans on the Canucks. None of them have particularly stepped up and there are high profile contrasts such as captain Naslund really struggling (according to most) where as the people's captain Linden has stepped up his game.

You seem to forget what nationality assisted on Linden's "tip in" and which ones scored the game tying goal. Without the GTG and without those assist, Linden's tip-in is non-existant. Not to mention, you seem to forget whose lines those penalties were drawn on to even get the powerplay. Hint: They were both drawn by different lines with 2 Europeans and 1 Canadian, both lines were putting pressure on Dallas, and both penalties were drawn by 2 different Europeans. Shocking as it may seem, the Europeans were actually putting pressure in Game 7 enough to draw penalties from a normally disciplined Dallas team.

C'mon Luc! Just 1 more game to own your old team. Same with Giants. And Moose!!!

Anyone read this article on Mario Bliznak and Evan Fuller on Canucks' main page?
http://www.canucks.c...e...D=5&id=2057

[itzabreeze]

Worth Posting.......

http://slam.canoe.ca...134725-sun.html

Quote

NICE START: Newcomer Daniel Rahimi played his second game with the Moose (and playoff debut) on Wednesday night and though he didn't see much ice time in the third period, Arniel was happy with the Swedish blue-liners performance.

"For a guy that was thrown into a pressure situation and having just one game under his belt, I thought he played pretty well," said Arniel. "He did a lot of good things. As he gets more comfortable, especially to the size of these rinks here -- that's a big adjustment (from playing in Sweden) -- he'll continue to excel.

"With (Alex) Edler being out, we need him to step up and log some minutes for us."

[The Internet Killer]

toxic rd, on Apr 26 2007, 09:33 PM, said:

Let's be honest, this forum is ruining the circus industry, all the clowns have fled from the tents to post here, you can't escape them

Wait ..... that would explain the attraction of all the 13 year olds to this forum !!

[Edler #23]

[quote name='itzabreeze' date='Apr 27 2007, 10:18 AM' post='4390914']
Friday Prospect Games!:

PLAYOFFS:

Val-d'Or @ Cape Breton (Bourdon)
SEMI-FINALS
Game #5
Cape leads Series 3-1
FREE WEBCAST: Game Time 3:00PM PT
http://eastlink.ca/e...ing/webcast.ram

Val-d'Or:
Reg. Season Points: 88
Players to watch:
Jérôme Samson
Brad Marchand
Kristopher Letang

Cape Breton:
Reg. Season Points: 94
Players to watch:
Bourdon.....
Bourdon....
Bourdon...
Bourdon..
Some James Sheppard kid.
Bourdon.

Thanks for the link, finally get to see a Bourdon game tonight