[Millerdraft]

No, I've never seen him play but if at 6'0" 198lbs he's only now beginning to "add a physical element and muck and grind for loose pucks", I have some serious alarm bells going off. At 6'0" 200lbs he should have already figured that out. Sounds to me like he heard he might get drafted and started doing something that he's not at ALL comfortable doing, bodychecking, just to get drafted.

Aren't there any centres in this draft with size who bang naturally and posess good hands, vision and speed? We seriously need a tough, skilled centre who can create open ice for skilled wingers like Grabner and Hansen.

[Rahimi]

How bad is Brandon Sutter skating? Slower then the Sedins?

[Grabner]

Millerdraft, on May 15 2007, 07:15 PM, said:

No, I've never seen him play but if at 6'0" 198lbs he's only now beginning to "add a physical element and muck and grind for loose pucks", I have some serious alarm bells going off. At 6'0" 200lbs he should have already figured that out. Sounds to me like he heard he might get drafted and started doing something that he's not at ALL comfortable doing, bodychecking, just to get drafted.

Aren't there any centres in this draft with size who bang naturally and posess good hands, vision and speed? We seriously need a tough, skilled centre who can create open ice for skilled wingers like Grabner and Hansen.

Can you please stop overusing italics.

In the previous scouting report I posted it says he increased his physical play toward the end of the season (aka playoffs). Don't you want a guy who can elevate his play during the playoffs? And he might have had a pretty good clue he was going to get drafted for quite some time now.

[Millerdraft]

Grabner, on May 15 2007, 07:31 PM, said:

Can you please stop overusing italics.

In the previous scouting report I posted it says he increased his physical play toward the end of the season (aka playoffs). Don't you want a guy who can elevate his play during the playoffs? And he might have had a pretty good clue he was going to get drafted for quite some time now.

I can't. Italics are my e-crack and I'm addicted to adding over-emphasis into my posts. Sorry bud.

I understand he has begun to "change" his game so that it is better suited for NA hockey but that could have alot to do with draft positioning as well. The higher he gets drafted, the better contract and (this is not a bad reason) the better "shake" he'll get at making the NHL.

It's nothing against him personally but is there not another more naturally aggressive, yet highly skilled (we don't need another Kesler), centre with a similar speed/vision/creativity?

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Millerdraft, on May 15 2007, 07:43 PM, said:

It's nothing against him personally but is there not another more naturally aggressive, yet highly skilled (we don't need another Kesler), centre with a similar speed/vision/creativity?

Put simply...No

The players that are in our draft range just don't have that all-around first line center mold. And that's not surprising considering we have such a late first round pick. If the Canucks are serious about this draft and want that kind of player they will have to trade up. If they don't, expect our first rounder to be a project player who may only become a second line player down the road.

[timw33]

Rahimi, on May 15 2007, 07:24 PM, said:

How bad is Brandon Sutter skating? Slower then the Sedins?

His skating is average, which is a huge problem.

We need a mobile centre.

[Millerdraft]

It sounds like we'd have to trade up to get Eller too so we might as well go for the whole package.

[timw33]

Millerdraft, on May 15 2007, 08:17 PM, said:

It sounds like we'd have to trade up to get Eller too so we might as well go for the whole package.

I think it would be worth it to trade up.

It shouldn't take too much to move up 5-6 spots in this kinda draft.

[Grabner]

timw33, on May 15 2007, 08:13 PM, said:

His skating is average, which is a huge problem.

We need a mobile centre.

Agree, solid skatiing is key in the new NHL.

[Millerdraft]

timw33, on May 15 2007, 08:18 PM, said:

I think it would be worth it to trade up.

It shouldn't take too much to move up 5-6 spots in this kinda draft.

If we're gonna trade up for a player who has question marks (Eller, toughness) instead of staying put and drafting a player with question marks (Sutter, skating), perhaps we should jump a little higher to get a less gamble of a player. As much as I like Bourdon, the Kopitar crowd has a point in regards to our lack of a big (6'3" 220lb) skilled centre. If there's one available, that's the one I want.

What about that Veilleux kid? Is he top-ten?

[Vancouver_Canucks]

timw33, on May 15 2007, 08:13 PM, said:

His skating is average, which is a huge problem.

We need a mobile centre.

How bad is average?

Lee Goren type skating would be a comparison?

[Untouchable]

Bill Sweatt, the fastest player in the draft and is also a centre.

[Blister Soul]

Untouchable, on May 15 2007, 08:41 PM, said:

Bill Sweatt, the fastest player in the draft and is also a centre.

Do we have any chance of drafting him? Size?

[stanleycupcanucks#01]

grabner hansen raymond
jaffray reid simek
genoway bliznak shirokov
brown butcher bernier

bourdon edler
koltzov rahimi
freidheim(insane slapshot) anyone

[Vancouver_Canucks]

stanleycupcanucks#01, on May 15 2007, 08:58 PM, said:

grabner hansen raymond
jaffray reid simek
genoway bliznak shirokov
brown butcher bernier

bourdon edler
koltzov rahimi
freidheim(insane slapshot) anyone

god damn that 1st line is effin fast

Hansen is a centre?

[Millerdraft]

North Americans
30 GILLIES, COLTON WHL SASKATOON 12-Feb-89 6' 3.5" 189 * C L
33 VEILLEUX, KEVEN QMJHL VICTORIAVILLE 27-Jun-89 6' 4.75" 202 * C R
38 O'BRIEN, JAMES WCHA U OF MINNESOTA 29-Jan-89 6' 2" 184 C R
54 ALLARD, JEAN-SIMON QMJHL ST. JOHN'S 24-May-89 6' 2.25" 195 * C R

Euros
51 LEHTERA, JORI FIN U20 JOKERIT 23-Dec-87 6´2 191 C L
52 RUSNAK, ONDREJ SVK U20 BRATISLAVA 25-Feb-89 6´3 185 C L

What about these guys (besides Gilles)? Anyone know much?

[Syntax]

Vancouver_Canucks, on May 15 2007, 09:02 PM, said:

god damn that 1st line is effin fast

Hansen is a centre?

Hansen's a winger.

[Millerdraft]

Vladimir Ruzicka?

[timw33]

Vancouver_Canucks, on May 15 2007, 08:37 PM, said:

How bad is average?

Lee Goren type skating would be a comparison?

No, Goren is a glacier.

[vancouvercanucks2010]

More Turris. The Canucks should do whatever in their power to get him

This post has been edited by vancouvercanucks2010: 15 May 2007 - 09:22 PM