toxic rd, on May 19 2007, 09:18 PM, said:
It's not Koltsov, it's Kostlov
It doesn't matter anymore.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 08:51 AM
Yeah I know what you mean guys, the number of people that keep stating DRAFT GILLIES obviously didn't see that he only had 30 pts this past season. Who cares if he's 6'4 and hits hard, you draft players like that in the 3rd and later rounds.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 03:46 PM
Bliznak got his 2nd assist of this Memorial Cup
He's getting 1st/2nd unit PP time (difficult to say which line is the #1 line)
Playing with McArdle and Machacek
Was the starting Centreman for the Giants in both games so far
They grow up so fast
He's getting 1st/2nd unit PP time (difficult to say which line is the #1 line)
Playing with McArdle and Machacek
Was the starting Centreman for the Giants in both games so far
They grow up so fast
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 07:40 PM
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Canucks AHL and ECHL season review
Written by Matt MacInnis on 05/20/2007
The Vancouver Canucks minor league affiliates, both the AHL’s Manitoba Moose and the ECHL’s Victoria Salmon Kings, had relatively successful seasons. The Moose won the North division with 45 wins, 23 losses, seven OT losses and five shootout losses for a total of 102 points before being eliminated in the second round of the playoffs. The Salmon Kings made the ECHL playoffs for the first time in the franchise’s brief history – this as the team’s first season serving as the Canucks secondary affiliate.
The Canucks had 12 players spend the majority of the 2006-07 season in the minor professional ranks, but despite having a large pool of prospects, few of them project to be career NHL-caliber players.
Goaltending
Leading in to the start of the hockey season, it appeared that the Canucks would have Hart-candidate Roberto Luongo and veteran Wade Flaherty and Julien Ellis would be battling with an undetermined adversary for minutes with the Moose. But then the Canucks acquired Drew MacIntyre from the Detroit Red Wings early in training camp and picked up underachiever Dany Sabourin to back up Luongo. Suddenly MacIntyre was going to share minutes with Flaherty and Ellis was on his way to Victoria.
MacIntyre ended up playing the majority of the games for the Moose during the regular season, seeing action in 41 contests compiling a stellar 24-14 record with three shutouts and very strong individual stats including a 2.17 goals against average and .922 save percentage. He continued his strong play in the post-season, where he once again played the lion’s share of the minutes. MacIntyre has proven to be a solid pick-up for the Canucks organization, adding depth to the Canucks goaltender prospect pool after the disappointing development of Ellis and Alexandre Vincent in the recent years. MacIntyre, who will be 24 at the end of June, has shown signs of having the potential to be a capable NHL backup. In fact, if the Canucks choose not to bring Sabourin back, MacIntyre is the logical choice to fill that role next season.
Ellis played a total of eight games in the AHL this season, winning just one of them. With the Salmon Kings, Ellis played well in his 37 games of action putting up a 21-14 record plus one OT and shootout loss. His .912 save percentage and 3.21 goals against average were big reasons that the S-Kings were able to land a playoff berth. Overall, Ellis appears to have stagnated since his tremendous 2004-05 QMJHL season when he won the top goaltender award. Ellis is just 21 years old, but he must find a way to get back to his old form if he hopes to have a long professional career.
Defense
With four young blue liners playing for the Moose this season, the Canucks had plenty of options for first-time call-ups in case of injuries – and they used nearly all of them. Alexander Edler, Patrick Coulombe and Nathan McIver all saw their first NHL action this season. Edler was the prospect with the highest ceiling playing with the Moose this year and he certainly proved his value. In 49 AHL games he racked up 26 points but it was during his 22 NHL regular season and eight NHL playoff games that he showed that he is, without a doubt, NHL-ready and capable of developing into a No. 2 defender.
Coulombe broke into the NHL scene by impressing in training camp and being one of the final cuts. He did get into seven games with the Canucks early in the season when half the club’s defensemen were injured but failed to impress and had very obvious problems trying to physically compete with bigger forwards. At just 5’9, 165 lbs it appears that Coulombe’s best shot at becoming a full-time NHL player is to carve himself a niche with a team has a power-play specialist.
McIver played 63 games accumulating just three points, but provided steady defensive play throughout the season while delivering physical play as demonstrated with his 139 penalty minutes (including 15 fights). He only played a single game for the Canucks, but left an impression of what he’s willing to do getting into a fight with Anaheim’s Travis Moen. Offseason signee Shaun Heshka was the other Canucks prospect to spend the duration of the season with the Moose. The Merville, Saskatchewan native had a stellar rookie season (WTF,
) putting up six points in 54 games seeing fairly limited action most games.
Forwards
Of the six forwards playing with either the Moose or the Salmon Kings, only Jannik Hansen has the chance to develop into any sort of impact player at the NHL level. With 34 points in 72 regular season games, Hansen showed that he does have the ability to put points on the board at the professional level. This is particularly encouraging when you consider the rapid increase in the level of competition Hansen has faced over the past several years. Two years ago he was playing in the Danish league, last season major junior and this year he finished seventh in scoring on his AHL team.
The only one of two prospect to put more points on the board than Hansen was mid-season acquisition Colby Genoway. The 6’1, 200 lbs 23-year-old right winger only scored nine goals but had 32 helpers on the year. Genoway is going to need to continue to round out his all-around game if he hopes to find himself in a Canucks uniform at any point of his NHL career because it does not appear that his offensive game is sound enough to earn him a spot on a scoring line. On the other side of the coin is undersized agitator Rick Rypien whose NHL potential appears to rely more on his ability to stay healthy than his goal-scoring talents. Rypien played in just 16 regular season games this year as a result of injuries, something that has plagued him the past two seasons. Rypien is a ferocious forechecker who plays with a seemingly endless supply of energy. He is a natural fit for the fourth line for Alain Vigneault’s team. Another grinder on the Moose roster is Mike Brown. At 6’0, 210 lbs, Brown has NHL size and speed, but hasn’t demonstrated any significant offensive skills since turning two pro years ago and his complete lack of offensive contribution is making him an increasingly longer shot at becoming an NHL player.
Jesse Schultz scored 18 goals and added 21 assists, a significant drop from his impressive stats last season that had many pundits penciling him in alongside the Sedin twins on the Canucks so-called second-line to start the season. But then Schultz performed poorly in camp and never seemed to get things going on a consistent basis for the Moose. At this point it seems unlikely Schultz will ever become an NHL player and appears on his way to becoming the “next Jason King”, that is, the prospect that was once touted as the third wheel for the Sedins who never made it and dropped off the radar.
The other two forward prospects in the minor pro ranks this season were former junior teammates and QMJHL graduates Marc-Andre Bernier and FP Guenette. Bernier scored a goal and an assist in 23 AHL games and 33 points in 40 ECHL games. Guenette put up 13 goals and 42 assists for a total of 55 points in 67 games with the S-Kings. Neither player appears likely at this point to be a viable NHL prospect.
Conclusion
This year’s AHL crop possessed only a few true NHL prospects, but the Moose are expected to receive a significant injection of quality young talent with the anticipated arrival of players like Mason Raymond, Cory Schneider, Michael Grabner, Juraj Simek and Luc Bourdon.
Canucks AHL and ECHL season review
Written by Matt MacInnis on 05/20/2007
The Vancouver Canucks minor league affiliates, both the AHL’s Manitoba Moose and the ECHL’s Victoria Salmon Kings, had relatively successful seasons. The Moose won the North division with 45 wins, 23 losses, seven OT losses and five shootout losses for a total of 102 points before being eliminated in the second round of the playoffs. The Salmon Kings made the ECHL playoffs for the first time in the franchise’s brief history – this as the team’s first season serving as the Canucks secondary affiliate.
The Canucks had 12 players spend the majority of the 2006-07 season in the minor professional ranks, but despite having a large pool of prospects, few of them project to be career NHL-caliber players.
Goaltending
Leading in to the start of the hockey season, it appeared that the Canucks would have Hart-candidate Roberto Luongo and veteran Wade Flaherty and Julien Ellis would be battling with an undetermined adversary for minutes with the Moose. But then the Canucks acquired Drew MacIntyre from the Detroit Red Wings early in training camp and picked up underachiever Dany Sabourin to back up Luongo. Suddenly MacIntyre was going to share minutes with Flaherty and Ellis was on his way to Victoria.
MacIntyre ended up playing the majority of the games for the Moose during the regular season, seeing action in 41 contests compiling a stellar 24-14 record with three shutouts and very strong individual stats including a 2.17 goals against average and .922 save percentage. He continued his strong play in the post-season, where he once again played the lion’s share of the minutes. MacIntyre has proven to be a solid pick-up for the Canucks organization, adding depth to the Canucks goaltender prospect pool after the disappointing development of Ellis and Alexandre Vincent in the recent years. MacIntyre, who will be 24 at the end of June, has shown signs of having the potential to be a capable NHL backup. In fact, if the Canucks choose not to bring Sabourin back, MacIntyre is the logical choice to fill that role next season.
Ellis played a total of eight games in the AHL this season, winning just one of them. With the Salmon Kings, Ellis played well in his 37 games of action putting up a 21-14 record plus one OT and shootout loss. His .912 save percentage and 3.21 goals against average were big reasons that the S-Kings were able to land a playoff berth. Overall, Ellis appears to have stagnated since his tremendous 2004-05 QMJHL season when he won the top goaltender award. Ellis is just 21 years old, but he must find a way to get back to his old form if he hopes to have a long professional career.
Defense
With four young blue liners playing for the Moose this season, the Canucks had plenty of options for first-time call-ups in case of injuries – and they used nearly all of them. Alexander Edler, Patrick Coulombe and Nathan McIver all saw their first NHL action this season. Edler was the prospect with the highest ceiling playing with the Moose this year and he certainly proved his value. In 49 AHL games he racked up 26 points but it was during his 22 NHL regular season and eight NHL playoff games that he showed that he is, without a doubt, NHL-ready and capable of developing into a No. 2 defender.
Coulombe broke into the NHL scene by impressing in training camp and being one of the final cuts. He did get into seven games with the Canucks early in the season when half the club’s defensemen were injured but failed to impress and had very obvious problems trying to physically compete with bigger forwards. At just 5’9, 165 lbs it appears that Coulombe’s best shot at becoming a full-time NHL player is to carve himself a niche with a team has a power-play specialist.
McIver played 63 games accumulating just three points, but provided steady defensive play throughout the season while delivering physical play as demonstrated with his 139 penalty minutes (including 15 fights). He only played a single game for the Canucks, but left an impression of what he’s willing to do getting into a fight with Anaheim’s Travis Moen. Offseason signee Shaun Heshka was the other Canucks prospect to spend the duration of the season with the Moose. The Merville, Saskatchewan native had a stellar rookie season (WTF,
) putting up six points in 54 games seeing fairly limited action most games.Forwards
Of the six forwards playing with either the Moose or the Salmon Kings, only Jannik Hansen has the chance to develop into any sort of impact player at the NHL level. With 34 points in 72 regular season games, Hansen showed that he does have the ability to put points on the board at the professional level. This is particularly encouraging when you consider the rapid increase in the level of competition Hansen has faced over the past several years. Two years ago he was playing in the Danish league, last season major junior and this year he finished seventh in scoring on his AHL team.
The only one of two prospect to put more points on the board than Hansen was mid-season acquisition Colby Genoway. The 6’1, 200 lbs 23-year-old right winger only scored nine goals but had 32 helpers on the year. Genoway is going to need to continue to round out his all-around game if he hopes to find himself in a Canucks uniform at any point of his NHL career because it does not appear that his offensive game is sound enough to earn him a spot on a scoring line. On the other side of the coin is undersized agitator Rick Rypien whose NHL potential appears to rely more on his ability to stay healthy than his goal-scoring talents. Rypien played in just 16 regular season games this year as a result of injuries, something that has plagued him the past two seasons. Rypien is a ferocious forechecker who plays with a seemingly endless supply of energy. He is a natural fit for the fourth line for Alain Vigneault’s team. Another grinder on the Moose roster is Mike Brown. At 6’0, 210 lbs, Brown has NHL size and speed, but hasn’t demonstrated any significant offensive skills since turning two pro years ago and his complete lack of offensive contribution is making him an increasingly longer shot at becoming an NHL player.
Jesse Schultz scored 18 goals and added 21 assists, a significant drop from his impressive stats last season that had many pundits penciling him in alongside the Sedin twins on the Canucks so-called second-line to start the season. But then Schultz performed poorly in camp and never seemed to get things going on a consistent basis for the Moose. At this point it seems unlikely Schultz will ever become an NHL player and appears on his way to becoming the “next Jason King”, that is, the prospect that was once touted as the third wheel for the Sedins who never made it and dropped off the radar.
The other two forward prospects in the minor pro ranks this season were former junior teammates and QMJHL graduates Marc-Andre Bernier and FP Guenette. Bernier scored a goal and an assist in 23 AHL games and 33 points in 40 ECHL games. Guenette put up 13 goals and 42 assists for a total of 55 points in 67 games with the S-Kings. Neither player appears likely at this point to be a viable NHL prospect.
Conclusion
This year’s AHL crop possessed only a few true NHL prospects, but the Moose are expected to receive a significant injection of quality young talent with the anticipated arrival of players like Mason Raymond, Cory Schneider, Michael Grabner, Juraj Simek and Luc Bourdon.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 07:47 PM
Yes, Heshka did have an impressive season, it was once of those season a rookie has where he didnt do alot great, but didnt do much wrong either. As a 1st year player that's what you want
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 09:16 PM
toxic rd, on May 20 2007, 07:47 PM, said:
Yes, Heshka did have an impressive season, it was once of those season a rookie has where he didnt do alot great, but didnt do much wrong either. As a 1st year player that's what you want
Gotta disagree with that. Their is no way he had an "impressive season". Edler had an "impressive season". Heshka, not so much. He played ok, but HF said he had a Stellar season?. Give me a break. He was a healthy scratch most of the playoffs, usually playing as a 5th or 6th D-man in the regular season. He's a very young and does have offensive upside which he should be given a bigger role on the Moose next season.
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Posted 20 May 2007 - 10:25 PM
itzabreeze, on May 20 2007, 09:16 PM, said:
Gotta disagree with that. Their is no way he had an "impressive season". Edler had an "impressive season". Heshka, not so much. He played ok, but HF said he had a Stellar season?. Give me a break. He was a healthy scratch most of the playoffs, usually playing as a 5th or 6th D-man in the regular season. He's a very young and does have offensive upside which he should be given a bigger role on the Moose next season.
It's not really fair to compare the two though. IMO it is impressive for an undrafted player to get solid ice time as a 5th or 6th D in the AHL. Unlike guys like Edler, Rahimi and Bourdon, Heshka had to earn his ice time. And that meant playing some games for Victoria in the ECHL.
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Posted 21 May 2007 - 12:58 PM
Will Eagle dare to turn pro?
Boston College goalie Cory Schneider, a member of the US squad that reached the World Championship quarterfinals in Russia, will take the next 2-3 weeks to decide where he'll play next season.
His agent, ex-Bruin Brian Lawton, laughed when a reporter last week suggested there was zero chance of Schneider turning pro with Vancouver, where he would be faced with a protracted apprenticeship behind the growing legend that is Canucks netminder Roberto Luongo. Think of the graveyard full of backup goalies in New Jersey, where Martin Brodeur has rarely taken a night off since the end of the 1994-95 season.
"No decision has been made," said Lawton, the former Mount St. Charles star. "I understand the thought, you know: What's the hurry with Roberto there? At the same time, Vancouver's not pressuring him on it at all. He's going to come home, think it through, and decide some time in early June."
Schneider, 21, could opt to remain at The Heights, or turn pro, which undoubtedly would place him with the Manitoba Moose (AHL) for at least a year or two. If he were to go back to college, he could turn pro with the Canucks after the 2007-08 NCAA season, or opt not to sign and become an unrestricted free agent as of Aug. 15, 2008.
Boston College goalie Cory Schneider, a member of the US squad that reached the World Championship quarterfinals in Russia, will take the next 2-3 weeks to decide where he'll play next season.
His agent, ex-Bruin Brian Lawton, laughed when a reporter last week suggested there was zero chance of Schneider turning pro with Vancouver, where he would be faced with a protracted apprenticeship behind the growing legend that is Canucks netminder Roberto Luongo. Think of the graveyard full of backup goalies in New Jersey, where Martin Brodeur has rarely taken a night off since the end of the 1994-95 season.
"No decision has been made," said Lawton, the former Mount St. Charles star. "I understand the thought, you know: What's the hurry with Roberto there? At the same time, Vancouver's not pressuring him on it at all. He's going to come home, think it through, and decide some time in early June."
Schneider, 21, could opt to remain at The Heights, or turn pro, which undoubtedly would place him with the Manitoba Moose (AHL) for at least a year or two. If he were to go back to college, he could turn pro with the Canucks after the 2007-08 NCAA season, or opt not to sign and become an unrestricted free agent as of Aug. 15, 2008.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 08:10 AM
Hey Toxic,
Who has impressed you the most of all the draft eligible players in the mem cup so far. Obviously Repik and Mahachek stand out but anyone else grab your attention? I only ask this as TV doesn't do players justice compared to seeing them live.
Who has impressed you the most of all the draft eligible players in the mem cup so far. Obviously Repik and Mahachek stand out but anyone else grab your attention? I only ask this as TV doesn't do players justice compared to seeing them live.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 11:19 AM
Perron obviously, but other than those 3
Brett Regner has been VERY good throughout this playoff run for Vancouver
Tyler Ennis an '08 draft pick for Medicine Hat has been very good, and was in the series vs. Vancouver as well
Jon Blum also, but everyone knows him, he'll be a 10-20 pick
The problem is it's only been 2 games, not a good enough time frame to judge players
Wait and see till the end
Brett Regner has been VERY good throughout this playoff run for Vancouver
Tyler Ennis an '08 draft pick for Medicine Hat has been very good, and was in the series vs. Vancouver as well
Jon Blum also, but everyone knows him, he'll be a 10-20 pick
The problem is it's only been 2 games, not a good enough time frame to judge players
Wait and see till the end
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 06:34 PM
Let us know if you see anyone we might draft with a late pick. Or any pick for that matter. I do trust your judgement.
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Slapyourself if you think Kesler will score 25+ goals, he just doesn't have the offensive skill.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 06:38 PM
Too many players, too few picks
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 06:46 PM
Ain't that the truth.
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Can't spell Kesler without Selke.
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Slapyourself if you think Kesler will score 25+ goals, he just doesn't have the offensive skill.
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 09:42 PM
I want Eller/Moeller
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Posted 22 May 2007 - 10:08 PM
Anyone notice that the Canucks moved up to 21 on Hockeysfuture? I think that's the first time they've moved up in the 5 years I've been visiting that site.
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For those who cares, i make playing cards from our prospect
Mason Raymond
Cory:
Mason Raymond
Cory:
GM game - Edmonton Oilers
Penner - Horcoff - Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Gagner - Cogliano
Moreau - Pisani - Nilsson
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Visnovsky - Souray
Grebeshkov - Gilbert
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Penner - Horcoff - Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Gagner - Cogliano
Moreau - Pisani - Nilsson
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Posted 25 May 2007 - 01:08 AM
It’s less then a month away from the entry draft.
I can’t wait. June is always a very exciting time in hockey.
I can’t wait. June is always a very exciting time in hockey.
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