[Toxic]

I've said it before, this offseason is the only time we can lure shirokov over and still reap the benefits of his skill, after this hes going to go downhill, also hell get a more lucrative contract, and like Koltsov once Kiril got that big contract he stayed put, if Shirokov accepts another Russian contract, i will no longer consider him a propsect

[timw33]

toxic rd, on Oct 8 2007, 06:23 PM, said:

I've said it before, this offseason is the only time we can lure shirokov over and still reap the benefits of his skill, after this hes going to go downhill, also hell get a more lucrative contract, and like Koltsov once Kiril got that big contract he stayed put, if Shirokov accepts another Russian contract, i will no longer consider him a propsect

Yep, that sounds about right.

We haven't really talked about anyone from the 2008 draft yet, are there (m)any talented 6'3+ 200 pound+ centres?

[timw33]

Hey, Matson is listed as 6'0 185 now, woot woot.

[Rinslet]

Just wondering about Shirokov... I thought he just recently signed a 2 year contract? o_O How are we supposed to get him over here? /wondering

[timw33]

Rinslet, on Oct 8 2007, 08:04 PM, said:

Just wondering about Shirokov... I thought he just recently signed a 2 year contract? o_O How are we supposed to get him over here? /wondering

I'd bet that there is an NHL out-clause somewhere in there.

Most Euro contracts seem to have them.

But we need to get him over before he gets offered big money by a Russian contract.

We need Shirokov to want to be an NHL star.

[Rinslet]

Yeah, but I thought Russia was already fixing (or have they already?) that out clause? Is that the 2-week thing you're referring to?

[timw33]

Rinslet, on Oct 8 2007, 08:09 PM, said:

Yeah, but I thought Russia was already fixing (or have they already?) that out clause? Is that the 2-week thing you're referring to?

No, they got rid of that loophole.

Many players in Russia have out-clauses if they are offered contracts from NHL teams, but I believe there is a window for that sometime in the summer.

[Toxic]

That contract is hazy, i talked with some Russian hockey experts, actually IN Russia, they're confused by it as well. One said he heard nothing of it, and i also talked with Gero Hertle, he also said he hadnt heard it announced.

It's Russia, so many things are screwed up there, i try not to take their news too seriously

[vancanfan]

Canucks 1994 3rd round draft pick Chad Allan calls it quits

LINK

[~luongo]

Any of you think Patrick White will make the jump from NCAA to AHL next off-season?

[Toxic]

He can't he's too young

If he opts out of College, he can go to the WHL, his rights are owned by the Thunderbirds, but he has always wanted the college route

[~luongo]

Thanks toxic rd. Keep up the great work on Nucks Talk.

[Untouchable]

~luongo, on Oct 10 2007, 07:19 AM, said:

Any of you think Patrick White will make the jump from NCAA to AHL next off-season?

Yes he can, AHL rules only apply to the CHL but since hes from the NCAA he can join the Moose right now if he wanted to.

[~luongo]

Thanks Untouchable.

[Toxic]

But theres no chance he would, its foolish to begin thinking about it

[timw33]

Him playing for the Thunderbirds would definitly let us get a closer look at him, as well as more games played.

Join up with Hickey and Helenius, would be a good team.

If White is not getting sufficient icetime there (like in the situation of Jim O'Brien), he should consider that an option.

[Toxic]

But he's said in interviews he thought about that route, but has ALWAYS wanted to go the college route

The problem was NOT icetime with O'brien, it was the fact he wants to play Center and the Gophers wanted him to play D, he can play C at Seattle, he had to leave. White will not become a D or a goalie, he may play the odd time on the wing, but Minnesota's recent history is littered with Center's turned to wingers and vice-versa, and few have worked out well, they need a natural, talented center in their system for the next 3-4 years, White gives them the best option for that. When an organization like UM holds you in such high regard to consider you their future #1 center in the coming years and the catalyst AND spark to their offensive machine, you dont leave them simply because the Canucks MAYBE want you closer to them. The Canucks arent fools, they know UM will do more good for Pat than the T-Birds organization.

Pat White will most likely become UM's #2 center by the end of the year, AS A FRESHMAN, no reason he should leave the GG's

Preposterous thinking

[timw33]

I was being purely hypothetical.

Forgot that they wanted O'brien on D too.

[timw33]

Moose's first game tonight.

Not sure who is in the lineup yet.

[jayRmichigan]

Do you think White will go the whole 4 years?