[Dortmund]

I haven't watched any Moose games so that's why I ask this question. For the people who have seen Bourdon play, does anyone think he's on the right track again? I know his stats are good and it can be a good indication of quality but also can be deceiving as well.

[Dortmund]

Here is an very early update on the top 10 picks rated for 2008 so far

No. Player Position Height/weight Shoots Date of birth Team

1. Steven Stamkos C 6-1/180 R 2/7/90 Sarnia

2. Alex Pietrangelo D 6-3/198 R 1/18/90 Niagara

3. Drew Doughty D 6-0/213 L 12/8/89 Guelph

4. Kyle Beach LW 6-3/205 R 1/13/90 Everett

5. Nikita Filatov LW 6-0/157 R 5/25/90 CSKA

6. Kirill Petrov RW 6-2/201 L 4/13/90 Ak Bars Kazan

7. Mikkel Bødker RW 5-11/201 L 12/16/89 Kitchener

8. Mikhail Stefanovich RW 6-2/202 R 11/27/89 Quebec

9. Robert Mayer G 6-1/190 L 10/9/89 St. John

10. Zach Bogosian D 6-2/199 R 7/15/90 Peterborough

There is also Jordan Eberle with the Regina Pats who is leading the WHL with 14 goals and 23 pts

So for all the Beach lovers we are really going to have to pull a Columbus this year to even come close to him as a pick. This isn't going to be like last year where there are huge question marks on the top 10. This draft had a buzz about it before last years draft.

[Owned35]

Any news on Shirkov?

[BWait]

Dortmund, on Oct 27 2007, 04:31 PM, said:

Here is an very early update on the top 10 picks rated for 2008 so far

No. Player Position Height/weight Shoots Date of birth Team

1. Steven Stamkos C 6-1/180 R 2/7/90 Sarnia

2. Alex Pietrangelo D 6-3/198 R 1/18/90 Niagara

3. Drew Doughty D 6-0/213 L 12/8/89 Guelph

4. Kyle Beach LW 6-3/205 R 1/13/90 Everett

5. Nikita Filatov LW 6-0/157 R 5/25/90 CSKA

6. Kirill Petrov RW 6-2/201 L 4/13/90 Ak Bars Kazan

7. Mikkel Bødker RW 5-11/201 L 12/16/89 Kitchener

8. Mikhail Stefanovich RW 6-2/202 R 11/27/89 Quebec

9. Robert Mayer G 6-1/190 L 10/9/89 St. John

10. Zach Bogosian D 6-2/199 R 7/15/90 Peterborough

There is also Jordan Eberle with the Regina Pats who is leading the WHL with 14 goals and 23 pts

So for all the Beach lovers we are really going to have to pull a Columbus this year to even come close to him as a pick. This isn't going to be like last year where there are huge question marks on the top 10. This draft had a buzz about it before last years draft.

What? No Luke Schenn in there? I see Bodker and Stefanovich have climbed up and it looks like we have no shot at them.

Beach is definitely intriguing, but a lot of people have said this guy has some serious character issues. He also made fun of Milan Lucic' condition that makes his back a bit humped. Even though he's a young guy, that's totally classless.

This post has been edited by BWait: 27 October 2007 - 01:08 PM

[timw33]

Toxic, on Oct 27 2007, 08:42 AM, said:

Messier only had 1 goal

Oh.

Yeah, I thought something was wrong.

It said Joly had 6 goals too, but he only had three.

Guess the scores got doubled up.

[timw33]

Really nice to see that THREE, count it THREE, of our prospects are in the top 20 for Rookie scoring in the AHL.

Bourdon outscoring the likes of: Lee, Letang, Ryan, Skille (all from his draft year)

Labrie with 3G 3G in 7GP, looking like a pretty good pickup so far.

Grabner outscoring Trevor Lewis and Chris Stewart right now (they went 2 and 3 spots behind Grabner in 2006, a lot of complaints that we didn't take Stewart (6PG 1A -3))

[CCF4E]

timw33, on Oct 27 2007, 05:35 PM, said:

Really nice to see that THREE, count it THREE, of our prospects are in the top 20 for Rookie scoring in the AHL.

Bourdon outscoring the likes of: Lee, Letang, Ryan, Skille (all from his draft year)

Labrie with 3G 3G in 7GP, looking like a pretty good pickup so far.

Grabner outscoring Trevor Lewis and Chris Stewart right now (they went 2 and 3 spots behind Grabner in 2006, a lot of complaints that we didn't take Stewart (6PG 1A -3))

Whos lee?

[smileyface]

^ I think it's Brian Lee, a defensive prospect of the Sens.

[timw33]

CCF4E, on Oct 27 2007, 05:52 PM, said:

Whos lee?

Brian Lee, the player taken before Bourdon.

[Toxic]

Butcher had 1 assist this weekend, Fredheim had no points

[Toxic]

Pat White had a goal vs. the US- U18 team in an exhibition game tonight

[timw33]

Gendur has an assist so far

Ellington +1

Bliznak an assist.

This post has been edited by timw33: 27 October 2007 - 07:48 PM

[itzabreeze]

Toxic, on Oct 27 2007, 07:46 PM, said:

Butcher had 1 assist this weekend, Fredheim had no points

Toxic, any idea on what kind of ice time Butcher is getting this year?

[nucks&bombers]

I don't know if this has been brought up, but does anyone else think that its important for the moose to win and win consitantly so our prospects learn how to win and not just how to rack up points. I'm not saying they're losing or that our prospects are playing for themselves, quite the oppisite really. I am very exited about the fact that the moose have a good team and am hoping that the kids will grow, not just into good players (or great) but that they learn how to play with eachother and how to win as a team.

[itzabreeze]

nucks&bombers, on Oct 28 2007, 12:22 PM, said:

I don't know if this has been brought up, but does anyone else think that its important for the moose to win and win consitantly so our prospects learn how to win and not just how to rack up points. I'm not saying they're losing or that our prospects are playing for themselves, quite the oppisite really. I am very exited about the fact that the moose have a good team and am hoping that the kids will grow, not just into good players (or great) but that they learn how to play with eachother and how to win as a team.

Of course winning helps, and being in a winning environment does help the moral around the team. But the reality is it isn't always going to be fluffy white clouds and rainbows everyday. The kids do need to learn how to be accountable and dig deep when adversity hits them.

[nucks&bombers]

itzabreeze, on Oct 28 2007, 07:02 PM, said:

Of course winning helps, and being in a winning environment does help the moral around the team. But the reality is it isn't always going to be fluffy white clouds and rainbows everyday. The kids do need to learn how to be accountable and dig deep when adversity hits them.

The thing is that adversity is only good if they find a way through, if they face adversity and learn to just accept defeat than that doesn't help at all. or if they get into the habbit of losing from being in a losing environment. personaly i would take a winning team first (no team has ever won anything without facing adversity at some point anyway)

[CCF4E]

nucks&bombers, on Oct 28 2007, 06:38 PM, said:

The thing is that adversity is only good if they find a way through, if they face adversity and learn to just accept defeat than that doesn't help at all. or if they get into the habbit of losing from being in a losing environment. personaly i would take a winning team first (no team has ever won anything without facing adversity at some point anyway)

Well, you'll barely see a time where a team just gives up after facing a bit of adversity

[BWait]

timw33, on Oct 28 2007, 12:35 AM, said:

Really nice to see that THREE, count it THREE, of our prospects are in the top 20 for Rookie scoring in the AHL.

Bourdon outscoring the likes of: Lee, Letang, Ryan, Skille (all from his draft year)

Labrie with 3G 3G in 7GP, looking like a pretty good pickup so far.

Grabner outscoring Trevor Lewis and Chris Stewart right now (they went 2 and 3 spots behind Grabner in 2006, a lot of complaints that we didn't take Stewart (6PG 1A -3))

Surprised Skille is having an average start points-wise considering his high draft status. Then again he put up mediocre numbers in College. Supposedly he was power forward potential.

Nice to see Grabner doing well in comparison with the others. I wanted Chris Stewart and think he would have fit this team well, but Grabner definitely does have some big time potential.

[ModoExpress]

timw33, on Oct 27 2007, 05:35 PM, said:

Really nice to see that THREE, count it THREE, of our prospects are in the top 20 for Rookie scoring in the AHL.

Bourdon outscoring the likes of: Lee, Letang, Ryan, Skille (all from his draft year)

Labrie with 3G 3G in 7GP, looking like a pretty good pickup so far.

Grabner outscoring Trevor Lewis and Chris Stewart right now (they went 2 and 3 spots behind Grabner in 2006, a lot of complaints that we didn't take Stewart (6PG 1A -3))

obviously all busts.

[nucks&bombers]

CCF4E, on Oct 28 2007, 09:39 PM, said:

Well, you'll barely see a time where a team just gives up after facing a bit of adversity

I'm not trying to say that they would just give up, but i think its still more of a positive experience for there development to win than lose.

Winning and losing are habbits, which habbit would you wan't our prospects to fall into?

besides like i said before, being part of a winning environment is different than everything being perfect (breeze), because no team has ever won anything without facing adversity