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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:19 PM

All us bandwagoners huh? Guess we can't just be a fan of a team who hasn't won a championship since 04? You're hilarious. Paying players to injure others to a severity that may effect them after their playing days are over is a lot worse than stealing some hand signals. And they consistently cheated to win? That's funny at how much you exaggerate . Why don't you ask Kurt Warner if he'd rather have post concussion symptoms after he's done playing football or if he would rather the Pats knew a couple of his plays? Again, you're funny. Now run along and pound your chest and shake your fist where someone views stealing hand signals as equal to causing bodily harm and serious injuries to an innocent person.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:51 PM

Stealing signals and filming practices like the patriots* did, gives way more competitive edge then bounties..

FTR, I fully agree with the suspensions and think its complete bull that occurred.. But as far as an advantage to winning, the patriots* case was much worse..

GO BILLS!
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:55 PM

Solid signing.......idk what the f the colts are doing....'Alright guys, Manning is gone, so lets take away the rest of the core too'


I just don't get it - they have almost no one and are gonna blow...


Full on rebuild, they're doing it the right way..

They'll be back on top in a matter of 3 years.. They are prepared for a few bumps in the road with Luck tho..
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:07 AM

And he still has the worst coach in the nfl as his coach. Norv turner,what a joke he his.


Tell me about it man..
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:52 AM

Full on rebuild, they're doing it the right way..

They'll be back on top in a matter of 3 years.. They are prepared for a few bumps in the road with Luck tho..


Yeah. I don't like people saying "I feel bad for Colts fans." They had one of the, if not the, best QBs ever for like 15 years.

They're gonna draft the next guy who's about a sure thing as they come.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:33 PM

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:07 PM

Anyone got an update on terrell owens? How's he doing in that league of his? Any teams express interest?
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:09 PM

Yeah. I don't like people saying "I feel bad for Colts fans." They had one of the, if not the, best QBs ever for like 15 years.

They're gonna draft the next guy who's about a sure thing as they come.


Exactly, nothing to feel sorry for a team that made the playoffs like what? 10 times in 11 years and has a superbowl..

I havent sniffed the postseason in 12 years, if anybody is gonna feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for bills fans lol

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:36 AM

I'm in the minority on this one, but I think RG3 will be better than Andrew Luck and would take him 1st overall.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:30 AM

I'm in the minority on this one, but I think RG3 will be better than Andrew Luck and would take him 1st overall.

I see RG3 as someone who will have success right away (maybe not in the wins column but in a Cam Newton sort of way) and Luck as someone who'll be a good QB but it might take a while for him to play at his full potential in the NFL (I don't know who to compare that analysis to, eli? Rivers? Brees?)
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:33 AM

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:55 AM

Saints signed Lofton yesterday. I like it, good addition to the D.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:38 AM

Exactly, nothing to feel sorry for a team that made the playoffs like what? 10 times in 11 years and has a superbowl..

I havent sniffed the postseason in 12 years, if anybody is gonna feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for bills fans lol


I did feel bad for the Bills but it looks like you guys are on the up swing now, if you guys can get some leads again this year Williams should help you close them out this time around.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:40 AM

Anyone got an update on terrell owens? How's he doing in that league of his? Any teams express interest?


No clue, but whatever team takes him is a joke lol!
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:34 PM

I did feel bad for the Bills but it looks like you guys are on the up swing now, if you guys can get some leads again this year Williams should help you close them out this time around.


True Mark anderson on the other side will be nice too.. I think a player like Mario instantly makes everybody behind him better (LB's, DB's) If merriman can even be at 75% of his old self we will have a great pass rushing rotation.. That D-line as a whole on paper is downright scary.. Mario-Kyle williams-marcell dareus-Mark anderson/shawne merriman.. Now hopefully they can come out and perfom..


Mainly what killed us last year was injuries, freddy j was leading the league in rushing yards and all purpose yards when he broke his ankle.. It was said fitz broke his ribs week 8 (around the time we fell apart) and played the rest of the year.. Lost some interior lineman.. I think if we stay healthy we could make a push for a wildcard spot, as i think the division is still the patriots* to lose..

What we really need is a WR opposite of SJ13, a deep threat.. I hope if Michael floyd is there at 10 that the bills draft him, but it's looking more and more like we will go o-line.. Also a SAM backer would be nice (i.e. courtney upshaw) We could use a CB too, dre kirkpatrick comes to mind, but we'll see.. Cant wait for the draft!!
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:44 PM

True Mark anderson on the other side will be nice too.. I think a player like Mario instantly makes everybody behind him better (LB's, DB's) If merriman can even be at 75% of his old self we will have a great pass rushing rotation.. That D-line as a whole on paper is downright scary.. Mario-Kyle williams-marcell dareus-Mark anderson/shawne merriman.. Now hopefully they can come out and perfom..


Mainly what killed us last year was injuries, freddy j was leading the league in rushing yards and all purpose yards when he broke his ankle.. It was said fitz broke his ribs week 8 (around the time we fell apart) and played the rest of the year.. Lost some interior lineman.. I think if we stay healthy we could make a push for a wildcard spot, as i think the division is still the patriots* to lose..

What we really need is a WR opposite of SJ13, a deep threat.. I hope if Michael floyd is there at 10 that the bills draft him, but it's looking more and more like we will go o-line.. Also a SAM backer would be nice (i.e. courtney upshaw) We could use a CB too, dre kirkpatrick comes to mind, but we'll see.. Cant wait for the draft!!


I think people make to much of "if Merriman returns to form" well he was on drugs then so I don't thik he will peak like that again especially after some of the injuries he has had but that doesn't mean he isn't a good solid linebacker and does his job well. I didn't watch a lot of your games but he seemed solid when ever I did see.

And as Giants fan, yes your pass rush will cover a lot of holes. Look at our linebackers this year we lost Goff our starting MLB, who is average at best anyways, then rotated rookies and vets through until we signed Blackburn, who was substitute teaching after we cut him in the off-season, and he comes in and has an immediate impact. Of course helped that Blackburn knew everything about our defense already but he still came off his couch and started for us and won a Superbowl with a suspect linebacking crew. Boley was our only proven commodity although our rookie 6th round pick J.Williams played awesome for us, he caused one of the fumbles in the 9ers game.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 07:20 PM

And another article about the Saints bounty scandal I seen posted on another forum. http://deadspin.com/5890499/
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:14 PM

http://blogs.nfl.com..._headline_stack


Ochocinco was a flop with us, but glad to have him for the upcoming year *only cause* he reworked his contract - from $3mill a season, he changed it so he gets $1 freeing up room, and if he catches fire, this may just be a steal of a contract B)
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:10 PM

I think people make to much of "if Merriman returns to form" well he was on drugs.


Actually merriman was busted in October 2006 and served his suspension weeks 9-12 of that season.. In the games he played coming off suspension he recorded 8.5 sacks, 12.5 the next season.. So even after the steroid thing, merriman was still one of the leagues elite pass rushers..

As for the giants, I think on paper that is the only better d-line then the bills.. I loved watching the giants all season because of that exact reason.. Hopefully we can get that type of pressure on pretty boy Brady and sneak into the playoffs..

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:27 PM

http://blogs.nfl.com..._headline_stack


Ochocinco was a flop with us, but glad to have him for the upcoming year *only cause* he reworked his contract - from $3mill a season, he changed it so he gets $1 freeing up room, and if he catches fire, this may just be a steal of a contract B)


Yep, they just stole a contract for a guy who had 15 catches and was to stupid to learn the playbook last year..

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:59 AM

Yep, they just stole a contract for a guy who had 15 catches and was to stupid to learn the playbook last year..


I remember pats fans coming on the Giants board saying don't over look Ocho or he'll burn you. Like he had just sucked all year as a ploy and in the Superbowl he was gonna bust out lol silly Pats fans think everything they touch is gold
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:26 AM

I don't think Ocho was too stupid to learn the playbook, he was just busy taking randoms from twitter out for dinner and showing up at their houses *sigh* maybe after his wedding this summer he'll take life more serious.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:19 AM

True Mark anderson on the other side will be nice too.. I think a player like Mario instantly makes everybody behind him better (LB's, DB's) If merriman can even be at 75% of his old self we will have a great pass rushing rotation.. That D-line as a whole on paper is downright scary.. Mario-Kyle williams-marcell dareus-Mark anderson/shawne merriman.. Now hopefully they can come out and perfom..


Mainly what killed us last year was injuries, freddy j was leading the league in rushing yards and all purpose yards when he broke his ankle.. It was said fitz broke his ribs week 8 (around the time we fell apart) and played the rest of the year.. Lost some interior lineman.. I think if we stay healthy we could make a push for a wildcard spot, as i think the division is still the patriots* to lose..

What we really need is a WR opposite of SJ13, a deep threat.. I hope if Michael floyd is there at 10 that the bills draft him, but it's looking more and more like we will go o-line.. Also a SAM backer would be nice (i.e. courtney upshaw) We could use a CB too, dre kirkpatrick comes to mind, but we'll see.. Cant wait for the draft!!


Don't forget Chris Kelsay as well. He'll be moving back into his natural position in this 4-3 Wannstedt is installing, so I'm looking for him to have an up year, albeit probably in a rotational role now. Williams has LDE locked down but that RDE starting role I think is a pre season camp battle between Anderson, Merriman (if back healthy) and Kelsay.

Not to mention on the inside we have Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus to start with guys like Troup Carrington and Heard as rotational depth options.

The Bills easily have the best d-line in the division and it's definitely up there in the entire league too.

I didn't realise Fitzy played the year with those broken ribs? Stems from that London Fletcher hit against Washington right? (Also, on a side note, imagine if we had our new d-line in for that game, we got 10 sacks with the mediocre line we had last year, imagine what anderson and williams would have done. Would have been havoc!)

It was tough to lose Freddy, but it was a really pleasant surprise to see CJ actually step up and perform when he was thrust into that feature back role. I feel confident now that when it comes time for him to take the reigns from Freddy he will do it with no worries.

And actually as far as the draft goes, I'm not at all convinced the Bills go OT at #10. There's plenty of evidence out there to suggest the Bills don't see enough starter material in the OT's at #10 and pick BPA instead. Nix has said from the beginning at #10 they'd like "no warts" and a player that can start straight away, and none of the three OT's projected to be around when the Bills pick fit that "no warts" criteria, they all have issues (two don't even really fit the Bills type for Tackles).

Also, you have to imagine that a few teams will panic above us and pick off the board (Ryan Tannehill anyone?) which could well push one of those 6/7 "elite" talents in this draft down to number 10. I think I'd cry with joy if someone like Blackmon or Claiborne were there at 10. Matt Kalil is what we really want but he's almost guaranteed to go 3rd.

Also, on the topic of Claiborne: We really freaking need a good cornerback this draft. The sooner we can ditch McKelvin the better, the guy got burned way to often last year. Although I do accept our improved pass rush should make McKelvin look better, I'm just not sold on his ability.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:22 AM

I remember pats fans coming on the Giants board saying don't over look Ocho or he'll burn you. Like he had just sucked all year as a ploy and in the Superbowl he was gonna bust out lol silly Pats fans think everything they touch is gold

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:08 PM

Apparently Payton asked Bill Parcells to coach the Saints this season. They will be meeting this week. Would love to see that happen.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:06 PM

Don't forget Chris Kelsay as well. He'll be moving back into his natural position in this 4-3 Wannstedt is installing, so I'm looking for him to have an up year, albeit probably in a rotational role now. Williams has LDE locked down but that RDE starting role I think is a pre season camp battle between Anderson, Merriman (if back healthy) and Kelsay.

Not to mention on the inside we have Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus to start with guys like Troup Carrington and Heard as rotational depth options.

The Bills easily have the best d-line in the division and it's definitely up there in the entire league too.

I didn't realise Fitzy played the year with those broken ribs? Stems from that London Fletcher hit against Washington right? (Also, on a side note, imagine if we had our new d-line in for that game, we got 10 sacks with the mediocre line we had last year, imagine what anderson and williams would have done. Would have been havoc!)

It was tough to lose Freddy, but it was a really pleasant surprise to see CJ actually step up and perform when he was thrust into that feature back role. I feel confident now that when it comes time for him to take the reigns from Freddy he will do it with no worries.

And actually as far as the draft goes, I'm not at all convinced the Bills go OT at #10. There's plenty of evidence out there to suggest the Bills don't see enough starter material in the OT's at #10 and pick BPA instead. Nix has said from the beginning at #10 they'd like "no warts" and a player that can start straight away, and none of the three OT's projected to be around when the Bills pick fit that "no warts" criteria, they all have issues (two don't even really fit the Bills type for Tackles).

Also, you have to imagine that a few teams will panic above us and pick off the board (Ryan Tannehill anyone?) which could well push one of those 6/7 "elite" talents in this draft down to number 10. I think I'd cry with joy if someone like Blackmon or Claiborne were there at 10. Matt Kalil is what we really want but he's almost guaranteed to go 3rd.

Also, on the topic of Claiborne: We really freaking need a good cornerback this draft. The sooner we can ditch McKelvin the better, the guy got burned way to often last year. Although I do accept our improved pass rush should make McKelvin look better, I'm just not sold on his ability.


Yea, Kelsay is the notorious whipping boy for bills fans, but really when his hand is in the dirt he is an above average player IMO.. That was the problem, you cant implement a 3-4 if you don't have players for that system, and Kelsay is the perfect example of that.. He could quite possibly be the worst player I have ever seen in coverage.. (well him and poz lol)..

Yea it was fletch that hit Ryan, drilled him good too.. Thank god fitz is a warrior cause the season woulda been 10x worse with thigpen playing..(which is another position I think we should upgrade)..

I think losing Freddy was the beginning of the end.. He does so much for for us as a team then just put up the numbers rushing and receiving.. And yea it was definitely a breath of fresh air watching Cj play good.. A lot of fans seemed ready to label him a bust but really all that needed to happen was patience for him.. He realized late last season and in to camp that his Clemson game wasn't gonna work at this level..youre not gonna out run ends and backers to the corner like you could in college.. But man once that boy finds a hole and hits it, nobody will catch him.. It's something special to watch.. My only thing with Cj is I hope his production doesn't make buddy go back on his words with Fred about a contract extension.. Fred is one of the most under rated players in the league..

Re-signing tashard choice was meh, but love re-signing chandler and obviously Stevie (who owns revis).. We also have fendi onobun, a TE prospect who's been compared to Antonio gates, only raw as of now..

As for the draft, I would live kalil and read last night that the Vikings aren't opposed to trading outta 3..but you know how buddy feels about moving in the draft.. I also seen bell's market is washing up so we may be able to land hin at a good price.. Which would open up the draft to practically anyone we want..

What do you think I'd Kuechly from BC?.. Guess he can play will in a 4-3 but that would mean splitting with Barnett or the mike position, but that means kelvin lose reps and personably I think shepp will be an elite MLB given some time..

I have about 10-12 players I would like to see them draft, so I'm pretty open to anything, as long as its not tannenhill, which I think lands with the fish anyway.. Besides luck rg3 (not a fan) kalil and Blackmon this draft kinda jus seems bla to me with sure fire talent.. Hit or miss if you will..

As for mckelvin, I'm still a fan of his, his coverage skills don't seem that bad to me, he's always in position it's jus his ball skills are terrible lol.. He can't find the ball to save his life.. And unfortunately that's one of those things you have or you don't as a player.. I still take Leo over drayton anyday.. That guy takes more penalties then any other player it seems like..


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:07 PM

Don't forget Chris Kelsay as well. He'll be moving back into his natural position in this 4-3 Wannstedt is installing, so I'm looking for him to have an up year, albeit probably in a rotational role now. Williams has LDE locked down but that RDE starting role I think is a pre season camp battle between Anderson, Merriman (if back healthy) and Kelsay.

Not to mention on the inside we have Kyle Williams and Marcell Dareus to start with guys like Troup Carrington and Heard as rotational depth options.

The Bills easily have the best d-line in the division and it's definitely up there in the entire league too.

I didn't realise Fitzy played the year with those broken ribs? Stems from that London Fletcher hit against Washington right? (Also, on a side note, imagine if we had our new d-line in for that game, we got 10 sacks with the mediocre line we had last year, imagine what anderson and williams would have done. Would have been havoc!)

It was tough to lose Freddy, but it was a really pleasant surprise to see CJ actually step up and perform when he was thrust into that feature back role. I feel confident now that when it comes time for him to take the reigns from Freddy he will do it with no worries.

And actually as far as the draft goes, I'm not at all convinced the Bills go OT at #10. There's plenty of evidence out there to suggest the Bills don't see enough starter material in the OT's at #10 and pick BPA instead. Nix has said from the beginning at #10 they'd like "no warts" and a player that can start straight away, and none of the three OT's projected to be around when the Bills pick fit that "no warts" criteria, they all have issues (two don't even really fit the Bills type for Tackles).

Also, you have to imagine that a few teams will panic above us and pick off the board (Ryan Tannehill anyone?) which could well push one of those 6/7 "elite" talents in this draft down to number 10. I think I'd cry with joy if someone like Blackmon or Claiborne were there at 10. Matt Kalil is what we really want but he's almost guaranteed to go 3rd.

Also, on the topic of Claiborne: We really freaking need a good cornerback this draft. The sooner we can ditch McKelvin the better, the guy got burned way to often last year. Although I do accept our improved pass rush should make McKelvin look better, I'm just not sold on his ability.


Yea, Kelsay is the notorious whipping boy for bills fans, but really when his hand is in the dirt he is an above average player IMO.. That was the problem, you cant implement a 3-4 if you don't have players for that system, and Kelsay is the perfect example of that.. He could quite possibly be the worst player I have ever seen in coverage.. (well him and poz lol)..

Yea it was fletch that hit Ryan, drilled him good too.. Thank god fitz is a warrior cause the season woulda been 10x worse with thigpen playing..(which is another position I think we should upgrade)..

I think losing Freddy was the beginning of the end.. He does so much for for us as a team then just put up the numbers rushing and receiving.. And yea it was definitely a breath of fresh air watching Cj play good.. A lot of fans seemed ready to label him a bust but really all that needed to happen was patience for him.. He realized late last season and in to camp that his Clemson game wasn't gonna work at this level..youre not gonna out run ends and backers to the corner like you could in college.. But man once that boy finds a hole and hits it, nobody will catch him.. It's something special to watch.. My only thing with Cj is I hope his production doesn't make buddy go back on his words with Fred about a contract extension.. Fred is one of the most under rated players in the league..

Re-signing tashard choice was meh, but love re-signing chandler and obviously Stevie (who owns revis).. We also have fendi onobun, a TE prospect who's been compared to Antonio gates, only raw as of now..

As for the draft, I would live kalil and read last night that the Vikings aren't opposed to trading outta 3..but you know how buddy feels about moving in the draft.. I also seen bell's market is washing up so we may be able to land hin at a good price.. Which would open up the draft to practically anyone we want..

What do you think I'd Kuechly from BC?.. Guess he can play will in a 4-3 but that would mean splitting with Barnett or the mike position, but that means kelvin lose reps and personably I think shepp will be an elite MLB given some time..

I have about 10-12 players I would like to see them draft, so I'm pretty open to anything, as long as its not tannenhill, which I think lands with the fish anyway.. Besides luck rg3 (not a fan) kalil and Blackmon this draft kinda jus seems bla to me with sure fire talent.. Hit or miss if you will..

As for mckelvin, I'm still a fan of his, his coverage skills don't seem that bad to me, he's always in position it's jus his ball skills are terrible lol.. He can't find the ball to save his life.. And unfortunately that's one of those things you have or you don't as a player.. I still take Leo over drayton anyday.. That guy takes more penalties then any other player it seems like..


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:17 PM

The name ''New Orleans Saints'' is quite ironic, considering the story they're involved in.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:59 AM

All us bandwagoners huh? Guess we can't just be a fan of a team who hasn't won a championship since 04? You're hilarious. Paying players to injure others to a severity that may effect them after their playing days are over is a lot worse than stealing some hand signals. And they consistently cheated to win? That's funny at how much you exaggerate . Why don't you ask Kurt Warner if he'd rather have post concussion symptoms after he's done playing football or if he would rather the Pats knew a couple of his plays? Again, you're funny. Now run along and pound your chest and shake your fist where someone views stealing hand signals as equal to causing bodily harm and serious injuries to an innocent person.


I have a problem with this. You're implying that Kurt Warner has post-concussion symptoms because of the Saints bounty system. I did some research and have found no evidence to this. He also came out and said the hit from the Saints didn't end his career. He's had concussions in the past, against teams that were not the New Orleans Saints. So a statement as vague as that is kind of misleading.

However, the Patriots arguably won their first Superbowl against the Rams because of their theft of hand signals, taping walkthrough, etc. (Note: I said arguably) So the way you should have phrased that is "Why don't you ask Kurt Warner if he wanted a bounty on him, which led to a vicious and illegal hit - but did not lead to a post-career injury, or have the Patriots steal their hand-signals/walkthrough before the Superbowl.



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