[batista 666]

Baggins, on Aug 8 2007, 11:58 PM, said:

I prefer it without the green.

It looks like he is constipating
Does he need help?

[nacwatts]

Although we can all debate with each other until the cows come home, I feel that there are a few things that people are failing to realize.

The Orca logo is a corporate logo, representing Orca Bay Sports, but, it is an awful Quu-us (first nations) killer whale.

While "Johnny Canuck" has potential, it was a comic book character, and I do not believe that represents "BC".

While we know that the Orca will stay, picture a phasing/fading "Johnny into wolf" or half and half design which i think would be kinda all of us here in BC. The wolf would represent the wild here in BC, and Johnny is the people.

Also, team logos, are designed by people who make a lot of money.

Lastly, I would like to reiterate what was said before, but still rings true; Race has nothing to do with "canucks", culture maybe, but not race, it is not wise to confuse the two.

I think that whatever the "new" look is, it doesn't chage the fact that canucks fans have the most passion, and are probably the most intense people I have ever known. While we can't all be happy, We are all Canucks....

This post has been edited by nacwatts: 09 August 2007 - 02:53 AM

[so-slinky]

so-slinky, on Aug 8 2007, 01:10 AM, said:

how can i use those skins for nhl 07 on pc?

anyone?

[Spartan]

i dont think any of the stupid lumberjacks need any fixtures
its sooo f***ing stuupid

[topcorner]

i still prefer this logo

[brother13]

one team one goal, on Aug 8 2007, 09:34 PM, said:

100% it will be orca in vintage colors. My friend works for printing company and the make the stickers for the Canucks. They have 3 versions of the orca, but he say's it looks like they are going with the one that was leaked.

Which leaked one are you referring to?

[cantbeatcloutch]

nacwatts, on Aug 9 2007, 02:51 AM, said:

Although we can all debate with each other until the cows come home, I feel that there are a few things that people are failing to realize.

The Orca logo is a corporate logo, representing Orca Bay Sports, but, it is an awful Quu-us (first nations) killer whale.

While "Johnny Canuck" has potential, it was a comic book character, and I do not believe that represents "BC".

While we know that the Orca will stay, picture a phasing/fading "Johnny into wolf" or half and half design which i think would be kinda all of us here in BC. The wolf would represent the wild here in BC, and Johnny is the people.

Also, team logos, are designed by people who make a lot of money.

Lastly, I would like to reiterate what was said before, but still rings true; Race has nothing to do with "canucks", culture maybe, but not race, it is not wise to confuse the two.

I think that whatever the "new" look is, it doesn't chage the fact that canucks fans have the most passion, and are probably the most intense people I have ever known. While we can't all be happy, We are all Canucks....

1) It's not a "corporate" logo in the typical sense of the term. There is, obviously, a link between the use of the Orca and Orca Bay Sports and Entertainment, but Orca Bay has it's own, separate, logo. Regardless, Orca Bay IS the Canucks. They serve no other function but to run the hockey team and GM Place. It's not like the Canucks are skating out with the Nike Swoosh as their crest, promoting a brand or product. The only brand or product they're promoting is themselves. I doubt anyone outside BC looks at the Orca logo and says "oh, they're just promoting their holding company".

2) Dunno about you, but I think there are several animals that are more unique to, and representative of, BC than a wolf. An orca whale being one of them.

3) Well, unfortunately, race has kind of come into play a little as some object to the Orca's homage to native design, feeling it doesn't represent the team or themselves properly. I personally have no problem with it, but one an certainly sympathize. Much like the 2010 Olympic logo, many feel it's representative of a small group of people and not "Canuck Nation" as a whole, and while it's probably a leans toward sensationalism, one can appreciate how it would feel when a symbol is chosen for the team you cheer for and that symbol gives you a sense of alienation instead of connection.

[daschuck77]

NaslundRocks, on Aug 8 2007, 11:13 PM, said:

http://logosondemand.net/

all league logo's go through that site, thats where the Sabres leaked logo came from.

I mistaken stated that JPatton were the logo designers for the Sabres but no, they just are essentially a repository for all the licesed content of the NHL...

The real designer of the slug is hopefully hiding in a cave somewhere.

[Tyger]

batista 666, on Aug 8 2007, 04:51 PM, said:

I just hate the idea of having a lumberjack as a logo, its embarrassing
I can see how fans of other teams would make fun of us because of our logo
Anything but the lumberjack

Canuck was a slang term for French Canadian lumberjack working in British Columbia in the old Klondike days. Lumberjacks are the ONLY thing that actually represents our teams name!

This post has been edited by Tyger: 09 August 2007 - 09:56 AM

[Red Russian]

batista 666, on Aug 8 2007, 04:51 PM, said:

I just hate the idea of having a lumberjack as a logo, its embarrassing
I can see how fans of other teams would make fun of us because of our logo
Anything but the lumberjack

They can make fun of us all they want...The scoreboard is all that matters & when we walk all over them they won't be laughing!!!

[Auximenes]

how much more time???

[{nhl}]

batista 666, on Aug 8 2007, 04:51 PM, said:

I just hate the idea of having a lumberjack as a logo, its embarrassing
I can see how fans of other teams would make fun of us because of our logo
Anything but the lumberjack

I think the Lumber Jack looks pretty good. Any jersey they pick, it will always be better than the Islanders Fisherman Jersey.

[one team one goal]

brother13, on Aug 9 2007, 05:41 AM, said:

Which leaked one are you referring to?

The one one page 40

[nightlite]

Tyger, on Aug 9 2007, 09:49 AM, said:

Canuck was a slang term for French Canadian lumberjack working in British Columbia in the old Klondike days. Lumberjacks are the ONLY thing that actually represents our teams name!

Ok, I've listened to this johnny canuck talk way too long. I've even done a little reading on johnny, just to give the idea a chance. But all these johnny logo's are just not doing it for me, and the boldened statement above is just plain stupid (no offense). The term canuck primarily referred to French Canadians (some of which were loggers) yes, but around the world it has become known as a slang term for "canadian". When taken in that context, many things could represent our team name. How about a sticky bottle of maple sirup? How about a angry beaver? How about a plate of poutine as a logo, that can be intimidating at times...

Point is (if any of the current gossip is correct) we are getting the orca in vintage colors, and it's about time to embrace that notion. Vintage colors are historic, unique and eye catching, and the orca design pays respect both to the native heritage of Vancouver, as well as paying homage to one of the most magnificent creatures in the world. Why continue squabbling over it? It's just a waste of time and space.

This post has been edited by nightlite: 09 August 2007 - 10:32 AM

[sportscrazy]

topcorner, on Aug 9 2007, 04:40 AM, said:

i still prefer this logo

Would be better with a little bit darker green.

[Catch 22]

I am not much for the lumberjack idea. Too busy and too hokey. The Pilot Johnny Canuck is a 1000x better. IMHO

[FinnHawk]

Tyger, on Aug 9 2007, 09:49 AM, said:

Canuck was a slang term for French Canadian lumberjack working in British Columbia in the old Klondike days. Lumberjacks are the ONLY thing that actually represents our teams name!

NOT IN B.C.

according to this source: http://www.straightd...ag/mcanuck.html

"The earliest recorded use of the term Canuck, sometimes spelled Kanuk, was in 1835. Similar terms such as Cannakers or Canukers were in use in the 1840s. The term was first used in lumber camps in Maine to refer to French Canadian loggers working in the Maine woods. ... The usage had spread by 1850 to mean all Canadians, sometimes used as a derogatory term. Canadians generally use it with pride or light-heartedly."

It was used to refer to French Canadian loggers in the Northeastern US, NOT in B.C. and eventually just morphed in meaning to mean all Canadians...

[FinnHawk]

sportscrazy, on Aug 9 2007, 10:50 AM, said:

Would be better with a little bit darker green.

Agreed... that shade of green looks awful.

[Catch 22]

although, the Johnny Conversation is moot anyways cuz they are sticking with the whale. I wouldn't be surprised if they stylized the whale. I dont remember Nonis saying it is exactly the same logo. Just the Whale is in the logo.

Here's hoping.

[brother13]

one team one goal, on Aug 9 2007, 10:05 AM, said:

The one one page 40

After that logo was posted, MaximAfinogenov goes on to pick it apart pretty good. If that is the new logo, it looks sloppy to me, with the green teeth not fully outlined and one ice chip with green trim on only half of it. I think it's a fake too.