[gordphish]

Roozter, on Aug 5 2007, 02:57 PM, said:

The WW2 pilot is good. But its not that the whale should represent hockey, the blackhawks is a tribe of NATIVES. either way its not a whale with blue or white diarehia. The orca is a corporate logo. Orca bay lied to every by saying that it represented Vancouver. It doesn't. Orca Bay is not a Canadian company. The company is from seattle or Oregon. The orca is representing the company not the canucks. This is why so many peop object to the Orca. It doesn't matter if penguins play hockey or having anything to do with hockey. Pittsburgh is called the penguins hence a penguin, not the Wal-mart logo or whatever company's logo that owns the team

I get so sick and tired of hearing this same lame donkey argument...

EVERY sports logo is a corporate logo. Period.

I read your points, and you most definately are not speaking for ALL of Vancouver.

I've been a fan of this team for over thirty years and I HATE the stick in a box logo. And here is a lttlie FYI for you...they went with that logo because they thought it would look good on HNIC, hence it would SELL. Sounds like a CORPORATE decision to me.

Point is, not everyone hates the orca logo. Whatever its origin, it is the first logo that represents our region in any way, shape or form and you don't have to tell people that it is in the shape of a 'C'.

Now if you like the stick in a box logo, great. Good for you. Nothing says hockey like pasting a hockey stick on your chest. But it doesn't represent what a Canuck is any more than the orca logo does, and it sure doesn't represent the city of Vancouver or the province of BC.

The best argument I've heard in favour of the stick in a box logo is that it is simple, and the for the fans of simple, it really floats their boat. Good on them.

But I'm a fan of logos and colour schemes that represent the city or region, so I like the orca logo. The orca also happens to be my favourite animal, so I really like the logo. And if the jersey happens to be the green and blues with the orca logo and 'Vancouver' lettering that were 'leaked' on July 30th, fan-freaking-tastic, beacuse those jerseys have the logo I want to see, the colours I want them to use and they mix several of their past jersey designs, which really appeals to the long time fan in me.

You don't like them? Too bad. Don't buy them. But stop claiming to speak for 'all of Vancouver', because you don't.

[FinnHawk]

gordphish, on Aug 6 2007, 09:01 AM, said:

I get so sick and tired of hearing this same lame donkey argument...

EVERY sports logo is a corporate logo. Period.

I read your points, and you most definately are not speaking for ALL of Vancouver.

I've been a fan of this team for over thirty years and I HATE the stick in a box logo. And here is a lttlie FYI for you...they went with that logo because they thought it would look good on HNIC, hence it would SELL. Sounds like a CORPORATE decision to me.

Point is, not everyone hates the orca logo. Whatever its origin, it is the first logo that represents our region in any way, shape or form and you don't have to tell people that it is in the shape of a 'C'.

Now if you like the stick in a box logo, great. Good for you. Nothing says hockey like pasting a hockey stick on your chest. But it doesn't represent what a Canuck is any more than the orca logo does, and it sure doesn't represent the city of Vancouver or the province of BC.

The best argument I've heard in favour of the stick in a box logo is that it is simple, and the for the fans of simple, it really floats their boat. Good on them.

But I'm a fan of logos and colour schemes that represent the city or region, so I like the orca logo. The orca also happens to be my favourite animal, so I really like the logo. And if the jersey happens to be the green and blues with the orca logo and 'Vancouver' lettering that were 'leaked' on July 30th, fan-freaking-tastic, beacuse those jerseys have the logo I want to see, the colours I want them to use and they mix several of their past jersey designs, which really appeals to the long time fan in me.

You don't like them? Too bad. Don't buy them. But stop claiming to speak for 'all of Vancouver', because you don't.

Just to be picky...
That's a BUSINESS decision... there's a difference between a simple business decision (to make money) and a decision by a corporation to use the symbol and name of their corporation in the Canucks logo JUST because it's part of their corporation name & logo (ie. not strictly just to make money).

However, I do agree with almost everything else you said... I don't have a problem with the orca logo. I kinda like it... and I LOVE the green and blue vintage colours, but I'm not a fan of the stick and rick logo itself.

This post has been edited by FinnHawk: 06 August 2007 - 10:02 AM

[M N B]

I'm going to take this SLIGHTLY off topic, but let's get some opinions on what Lou is going to do with his mask selections this year since they have redone the jerseys.

Is he:

Going to make completely new one(s) or,

Stick with the grizzly/skyline mask (possibly with the buildings recolored green to match the uni trim) for home games when they wear the darks and the white Johnny Canuck mask for away games when they wear the whites?

[FinnHawk]

Baggins, on Aug 5 2007, 12:15 PM, said:

Haida artwork:







The real deal is actually MORE cartoonish. The current logo is a toned down Haida stylization. Judging from these, we need far more red in our logo.

they're not always exclusively red and black...



Altho, yeah, red is definitely the most common and prevalent colour.

This post has been edited by FinnHawk: 06 August 2007 - 10:21 AM

[one team one goal]

M N B, on Aug 6 2007, 10:13 AM, said:

I'm going to take this SLIGHTLY off topic, but let's get some opinions on what Lou is going to do with his mask selections this year since they have redone the jerseys.

Is he:

Going to make completely new one(s) or,

Stick with the grizzly/skyline mask (possibly with the buildings recolored green to match the uni trim) for home games when they wear the darks and the white Johnny Canuck mask for away games when they wear the whites?

Teams will be playing in white at home and dark on the road, last I heard. Like the white at home.

[naslunds_wife]

wrong.

the NHL has agreed on dark at home, white on the road.
same as last season.

[D.Sedin]

naslunds_wife, on Aug 6 2007, 11:06 AM, said:

wrong.

the NHL has agreed on dark at home, white on the road.
same as last season.

Keep this on topic, because there is obviously nowhere else to talk about the new jersey.....

[Pacificgem]

naslunds_wife, on Aug 6 2007, 05:06 PM, said:

wrong.

the NHL has agreed on dark at home, white on the road.
same as last season.

Where can I find this information?

[one team one goal]

naslunds_wife, on Aug 6 2007, 11:06 AM, said:

wrong.

the NHL has agreed on dark at home, white on the road.
same as last season.

You could be right. I just remember them saying that teams will have new jerseys and they will be wearing white at home. Also now 3rd jerseys for any teams this year.

[GonnaWin]

wtf @ fin jersey

[- -Belle*87]

drdeath, on Aug 5 2007, 10:27 PM, said:

That's from an NHL addon not anything from EA. Here are the jerseys from the same photobucket.

ooo i like these.

[amkia]

gordphish, on Aug 6 2007, 09:01 AM, said:

I get so sick and tired of hearing this same lame donkey argument...

EVERY sports logo is a corporate logo. Period.

I read your points, and you most definately are not speaking for ALL of Vancouver.

I've been a fan of this team for over thirty years and I HATE the stick in a box logo. And here is a lttlie FYI for you...they went with that logo because they thought it would look good on HNIC, hence it would SELL. Sounds like a CORPORATE decision to me.

Point is, not everyone hates the orca logo. Whatever its origin, it is the first logo that represents our region in any way, shape or form and you don't have to tell people that it is in the shape of a 'C'.

Now if you like the stick in a box logo, great. Good for you. Nothing says hockey like pasting a hockey stick on your chest. But it doesn't represent what a Canuck is any more than the orca logo does, and it sure doesn't represent the city of Vancouver or the province of BC.

The best argument I've heard in favour of the stick in a box logo is that it is simple, and the for the fans of simple, it really floats their boat. Good on them.

But I'm a fan of logos and colour schemes that represent the city or region, so I like the orca logo. The orca also happens to be my favourite animal, so I really like the logo. And if the jersey happens to be the green and blues with the orca logo and 'Vancouver' lettering that were 'leaked' on July 30th, fan-freaking-tastic, beacuse those jerseys have the logo I want to see, the colours I want them to use and they mix several of their past jersey designs, which really appeals to the long time fan in me.

You don't like them? Too bad. Don't buy them. But stop claiming to speak for 'all of Vancouver', because you don't.

I agree 100%
great post
go orca logo!!

[RDCurran]

Anyone think that if we are going with the one with a word mark that fin is wearing it almost looks oldskool style and they could always add like i believe montreal and toronto did with their vintage and have it more like original sweaters with the v collar and just a thicker looking material (hope someone knows what i mean about the stitching and whatnot cause i can't explain exactly the image i have)

[diven73]

Pacificgem, on Aug 6 2007, 11:10 AM, said:

Where can I find this information?

Look at the bottom of this article.
http://www.tsn.ca/ts...nzie/?ID=211404

MaximAfinogenov, on Aug 6 2007, 03:49 AM, said:

Check this out.

I've modified the concept logo to incorporate the stitched blue ring around the inside, used silver for the crack in the ice, and replaced the white border with silver.

I've also added some textures/emboss to make it look more like a jersey crest.

I think it looks even closer to the leaked photo. What do you guys think?

Great work on the updated logo MaximAfinogenov

[Ghostsof1915]

How long does RBK have the contract for with the NHL? My guess the new look jerseys will flop and when the contract ends so will the leagues association with RBK.

[Evil_Ishmael]

FOR GOD SAKES!!! IF YOU INCORPORATE GREEN INTO THE ORCA LOGO PLEASE DO NOT GIVE THE WHALE GREEN TEETH! IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS THROWING UP!!!

Keep the teeth blue or black please.

This post has been edited by Evil_Ishmael: 06 August 2007 - 02:47 PM

[cantbeatcloutch]

drdeath, on Aug 5 2007, 10:27 PM, said:

That's from an NHL addon not anything from EA. Here are the jerseys from the same photobucket.

Although they're obviously not the real deal, what's awesome about those is how the sleeves do resemble something you'd see in Haida art, thereby tying in with the Haida-styling of the Orca logo.

I dig.

[Evil_Ishmael]

MaximAfinogenov, on Aug 6 2007, 12:21 AM, said:

Yeah. I agree. Teeth need to NOT BE GREEN.

[Evil_Ishmael]

I still think that just a simple outside border is the best way to incorporate green into the Orca.

[Nightfall]

cantbeatcloutch, on Aug 6 2007, 02:49 PM, said:

Although they're obviously not the real deal, what's awesome about those is how the sleeves do resemble something you'd see in Haida art, thereby tying in with the Haida-styling of the Orca logo.

I dig.

Sweet Georgia, they look good.