[curtiskujo15]

Ya okay its my first post and i know how many people here love to rip on people. Anyway everyone is always with the exception of a few people ripping on Bourdon saying how he's not good enough and how he might never be good enough. Well let us go down the line Bryan Allen turned into a great defensive defenman and ya it took a few years, but only since the new cba when young guys are expected to jump right away has this become an issue. No one can argue that Bourdon can skate? he can hit? supposidley he can fight which i havn't seen yet, but his biggest problem are decisions on the go. He still hasn't even has one year the AHL which is way better quility than junior. Think about how good Bieska got when he had that one full year, or Spezza or Cammileri and the list goes on. I think that everyone needs to give the kid and break, because lets remember he just a kid. And give him time to develop and my guess is by next year he will be in our top six.

1 last point to ponder.....why does the nhl have affiliate leagues.....answer...DEVELOPMENT....lots of players make it from the echl...it just take time.....


GO BOURDON......!!!!!

[Cyclone]

Bryan Allen was a late bloomer also took him awhile to be a dependable d-man with the Canucks.

Defencemen take time to develop, in time Luc Bourdon is going to be a good d-man for the Canucks when guys like Ohlund, etc... get long in the tooth.

[cremers]

curtiskujo15, on Sep 19 2007, 01:54 PM, said:

Ya okay its my first post and i know how many people here love to rip on people. Anyway everyone is always with the exception of a few people ripping on Bourdon saying how he's not good enough and how he might never be good enough. Well let us go down the line Bryan Allen turned into a great defensive defenman and ya it took a few years, but only since the new cba when young guys are expected to jump right away has this become an issue. No one can argue that Bourdon can skate? he can hit? supposidley he can fight which i havn't seen yet, but his biggest problem are decisions on the go. He still hasn't even has one year the AHL which is way better quility than junior. Think about how good Bieska got when he had that one full year, or Spezza or Cammileri and the list goes on. I think that everyone needs to give the kid and break, because lets remember he just a kid. And give him time to develop and my guess is by next year he will be in our top six.

1 last point to ponder.....why does the nhl have affiliate leagues.....answer...DEVELOPMENT....lots of players make it from the echl...it just take time.....
GO BOURDON......!!!!!

Bryan Allen was never and will probably never be a great any type of defenseman and hopefully Bourdon doesn't take nearly as long as Allen to develop into a sub-par nhl defenseman

[YaK]

Look at Barret Jackman. He couldn't crack the Blues lineup until he was 21 and had spent a year in the AHL. He won the Calder that year and he has developed into one of the Blues' most reliable defensemen,

[aliboy]

It's all just mental for luc right now, he just has to get to the point mentally where he's ready to step-in, a year in manitoba will be great for him.

This post has been edited by aliboy: 19 September 2007 - 02:03 PM

[curtiskujo15]

aliboy, on Sep 19 2007, 02:02 PM, said:

It's all just mental for luc right now, he just has to get to the point mentally where he's ready to step-in, a year in manitoba will be great for him.

Thats all im sayin is just give this guy some time.....and yes i agree he has more ability than Allen and should be better.

[shiznak]

YaK, on Sep 19 2007, 02:02 PM, said:

Look at Barret Jackman. He couldn't crack the Blues lineup until he was 21 and had spent a year in the AHL. He won the Calder that year and he has developed into one of the Blues' most reliable defensemen,

Another example is Jay Bouwmeester, who was rushed into the Panthers organization and didn't fair too well in his rookie campaign, spent some time in the minor leagues. But look at him now, future Norris trophy.

[Relics]

I agree with giving him more time. No point in rushing him. You rush someone to be NHL ready too soon, and they'll be a bust. I'm pretty sure there have been a few players who've been rushed, and they turned out to be a complete bust. I don't seem to have a source on that, so I don't have a leg to stand on that argument

[Tatoes]

cremers, on Sep 19 2007, 01:58 PM, said:

Bryan Allen was never and will probably never be a great any type of defenseman and hopefully Bourdon doesn't take nearly as long as Allen to develop into a sub-par nhl defenseman

Actually Bryan Allen would be perfect for us right now. He is WAY WAY WAY better than Aaron Miller or Jason Smith. He took out Iginla and Kobasew in one game. Knows how to clear the net quite well. A lot better than Mitchell, Bieksa, and Ohlund actually who let them run Luongo. That and he is usually a plus player every game. Even when it was just him and a rookie Bieksa as the top 2 for the Canucks during that brutal season where we didn;t make the playoffs.

[Ihatetomatoes]

anyone else notice that bourdon seems to be a really slow going backwards? seems kinda important in a defenceman. I hope he does well but i have my doubts.

[JCiarniello]

Skating can be worked on. Positioning can be worked on. Everything can be worked on and improved.

Decision making is hard to correct. It worries me a bit, but I havent bailed on him yet.

[Plough Cat]

There's plenty of hope for Bourdon yet. I will say that he's definitely not NHL material as of right now, though. He has the tools to be a force out there.....but he hasn't been able to pull it all together yet. He's got a lot of pressure on him, and I think a year in the AHL is a great idea at this point. If he can figure out his defensive responsibilities, he'll have no trouble making the NHL. He's got the speed, the skill, the shot, and the physicality to play this game.

He just needs to get his head screwed on right, that's all.

[T-rev P]

this say it all

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3EXss1qKUZM

[iiDarthANGERii]

There is no reason to rush the guy in there. We still have Mitchell, Ohlund, Kraijeck, Salo, Bieksa and others who can play now so let's just give him a chance to develop. He will be fine.

[250Integra]

T-rev P, on Sep 19 2007, 10:48 PM, said:

this say it all

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3EXss1qKUZM

"swung his dick"

LOL

[Naslund Jr.]

T-rev P, on Sep 19 2007, 10:48 PM, said:

this say it all

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3EXss1qKUZM

Honestly no, no it doesn't. Great poke check but it was only one play. Looked a little like Jovo.

[NHL'er]

L.A. Canuckfan44, on Sep 19 2007, 10:56 PM, said:

There is no reason to rush the guy in there. We still have Mitchell, Ohlund, Kraijeck, Salo, Bieksa and others who can play now so let's just give him a chance to develop. He will be fine.

Chances are Salo will get injured during the season..

This post has been edited by xxGrabnerxx: 19 September 2007 - 11:03 PM

[Aquiace]

T-rev P, on Sep 19 2007, 10:48 PM, said:

this say it all

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3EXss1qKUZM

Not really. He was terrible that game. That play was the only positive thing he did.

But, I'm willing to give him more time since we have Edler as a potential rising star.

[Luc.Raymond]

Cyclone, on Sep 19 2007, 01:56 PM, said:

Bryan Allen was a late bloomer also took him awhile to be a dependable d-man with the Canucks.

Defencemen take time to develop, in time Luc Bourdon is going to be a good d-man for the Canucks when guys like Ohlund, etc... get long in the tooth.

Was there a Draft lottery back in 1998 when we got 4th overall pick and got Allen? Cause if we lost more games or was luckier in the draft... we could have gotten Lecavalier.. haha...

Looking back at the 1998 draft.. players picked after Allen at the 4th overall spot...... Scott Gomez, Jonathan Cheechoo , Brad Richards, Alex Tanguay, Simon Gagne, Brian Gionta, Ales Kotalik, and Pavel Datsyuk.. Oh well.. hindsight is 20/20 and at least Allen helped us get Luongo..

[Wetcoaster]

T-rev P, on Sep 19 2007, 10:48 PM, said:

this say it all

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3EXss1qKUZM

What it says is that he got himself badly out of position, turned the wrong way and made a lucky dive to knock the puck away.