[seby_luongo]

All the hype from luc bourdon when we picked him saying he will be the canucks best defence in years to come.. i know hes still young, but all of our rookies are doing alright except luc. against anaheim he was on for all 3 goals, thats pretty harsh. i hope he picks up his game and makes the team.

[Mitchell #8]

He is really young and needs time in the AHL I think. It is just his mental game thats holding him back and he can't get over that hump.

Hopefully he can be a top 4 player for the Canucks in 5 years

If he fails at that level than he will be a Jason Doig lol

This post has been edited by Bobby Lu Fan: 20 September 2007 - 10:41 PM

[backbydemand]

I don't know if you can say that he's a flop. He had a much better game tonight. He really limited himself to playing steady tonight, but he played over 22 minutes. If you play over 22 minutes without being called out, that's aways good in my book. AV does seem to trust him out on defense, which says more than you guys can.

He didn't handle some passes cleanly, but that's nervousness more than a divot on his skill.

Hey, Schneider allowed 2 goals on 4 shots. Let's rag on him! Lay off Bourdon, just let him be for now.

[Mitchell #8]

I think with experience and maturity the worst Bourdon can be as a NHL player is a solid 5th or 6th d man that can slip into the 4th role. Similar to what Kraicjek's role is on the team right now

Kraicjek played a great game today btw as the veteran on the blue line.

[timw33]

He played a pretty good game tonight.

[KrazieCanuck19]

Hes still young and needs to develop, he'd be alright in the AHL.

[Indian Hockey Phenom]

patience....

[nuck7635]

does everyone here think all defensemen turn into miracles after a couple training camps? seriously, shut up about bourdon and say something about him after he's spent a year with the moose

[Trevor19Naslund]

I expect him(Luc) to be in the AHL the majority of the year of course, but next year, I'm guessing he will be on the Canucks Roster for sure.

[canucklehead44]

**** this guy hasnt even played a pro season yet and you guys are already labeling him a flop?!?!?!

Wait 3 or 4 years then comment like that.

[JimmEh]

after 1-2 years on the moose he will be a solid guy. give him some experience and he will be top 4 i think.

[ТrueCanuck]

canucklehead44, on Sep 21 2007, 01:47 AM, said:

**** this guy hasnt even played a pro season yet and you guys are already labeling him a flop?!?!?!

Wait 3 or 4 years then comment like that.

but it worked so well with the Sedins...

[Jkhol]

omgz lyke we shoulda drafted Kopitar cuz he scorez goalz.

[Jester@wraiths.ca]

Jkhol, on Sep 21 2007, 04:31 AM, said:

omgz lyke we shoulda drafted Kopitar cuz he scorez goalz.

No, we should have drafted Kopitar because he was a very talented center with size, something we needed in the system far more than a defenseman. I'd have been happy if we'd taken Kopitar and he was developing slowly, instead of Bourdon developing slowly. Center needed more depth than defense needed in our system.

[maninshed]

Indian Hockey Phenom, on Sep 20 2007, 11:35 PM, said:

patience....

you have said it all so simply.

[Toxic]

Jester@wraiths.org, on Sep 21 2007, 09:53 AM, said:

No, we should have drafted Kopitar because he was a very talented center with size, something we needed in the system far more than a defenseman. I'd have been happy if we'd taken Kopitar and he was developing slowly, instead of Bourdon developing slowly. Center needed more depth than defense needed in our system.

Hrmmm, yes, well you're WRONG

That was during the WCE era, we had PLENTY of offense, at the time it looked like we'd have Bert Mo and Nazzy long-term, we could draft a C later. At the time we had a crappy D, Jovo was gonna be gone soon and we had no leader on the D, and no real hard nosed heart and soul guys on the backend. Bourdon was big, fast, hard nosed, offensively talented, hard hitting, and a leader. It was perfect.

Top-pairing offensive, nasty canadian d-men are alot harder to come by then gifted offensive C's

[Jester@wraiths.ca]

toxic rd, on Sep 21 2007, 10:06 AM, said:

Hrmmm, yes, well you're WRONG

That was during the WCE era, we had PLENTY of offense, at the time it looked like we'd have Bert Mo and Nazzy long-term, we could draft a C later. At the time we had a crappy D, Jovo was gonna be gone soon and we had no leader on the D, and no real hard nosed heart and soul guys on the backend. Bourdon was big, fast, hard nosed, offensively talented, hard hitting, and a leader. It was perfect.

Top-pairing offensive, nasty canadian d-men are alot harder to come by then gifted offensive C's

No, not really. Yes, the big club had WCE, but did you notice that I said our system? We didn't have and still don't have, solid center prospects. Our D on the big club at the time, had Ohlund, Salo, and Jovo. Prospects in our system such as Koltsov (at the time, a higher likely hood of getting here), Bieksa had just had a very solid AHL season (lots of goals, assists, PM's, and respectable +/- ), Bryan Allen developing...

Obviously, drafting is with the future in mind, so looking beyond the WCE would have made sense...
Center has been the weak point in our development system for... forever?


But don't misunderstand me anyone, I'm not judging Bourdon a flop, just saying, in my view, drafting him wasn't addressing what has been an ongoing need of the franchise for most of it's existence.

This post has been edited by Jester@wraiths.org: 21 September 2007 - 10:38 AM

[Section116]

Sasw the game last night and Bourdon played very well. So well in fact that I barely noticed him. That's a good thing for a young Dman who's had some real head cramps. He played a simple solid game and did not try to stand out. We know he's got offensive upside but he'
s got to prove he can play Defence outside of the QMJHL. Bourdon probably had his best game as a Canuck tonight in many ways. Fans should see his quiet performance as a real positive.

[Jester@wraiths.ca]

Section116, on Sep 21 2007, 10:44 AM, said:

Fans should see his quiet performance as a real positive.

Definitely.

Previously, it's seemed that he had been wanting to do too much, and end up not doing anything well. Hopefully he's realizing he needs to simplify what he's doing and let things happen. Just look to play sound defensively first at this level, and his natural talent for offense will emerge on it's own.

[Robonuck]

Whether you like it or you don't, Luc will be packaged together with Schneider and sent to the East for a blue chip player. And it will happen sooner than later.

Let the flaming begin. Bring it on!